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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:01:49 PM EDT

Link Posted: 4/24/2014 9:10:36 PM EDT
There is a long history of effiminate men in Hindu culture, who don't consider themselves male. This isn't the least bit surprising - I'd imagine the same would happen in Thailand.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 9:12:55 PM EDT
and the hits keep coming.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 9:14:19 PM EDT
So what are hermaphrodites?  Third gender squared?
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 9:18:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Archtaan:
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Considering hijras are mentioned in the Kama Sutra, this particular hit came around the time of Christ.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 9:21:05 PM EDT
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By definition, hermaphrodites have both male and female reproductive tissues.

In light of that, I'd say they're both male and female.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 9:31:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
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there was a rash of hermaphroditism in puerto rico. recessive trait overly expressed due to a sorta closed breeding population, perhaps.

they developed a rule - "penis by 12." meaning whatever the kid was mostly like at age 12 became their gender role.  

ultimately it was not a big deal.




Link Posted: 4/24/2014 9:33:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Archtaan:
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Oh society is collapsing won't someone think of the children ?!!
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 9:33:22 PM EDT
We only need two terms. Transgender and Cisgender.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 9:34:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Credge:
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I hate that term.

How about "normal"? Seriously.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 9:39:20 PM EDT
What constitutes a transgender?

Is a cross-dresser far enough?  Implants/hormones to grow tits?
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 9:41:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Towely:
What constitutes a transgender?

Is a cross-dresser far enough?  Implants/hormones to grow tits?
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A male that wants to adopt a female role, or vice-versa.

I'm not really sure why it matters, honestly.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 9:46:54 PM EDT

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A male that wants to adopt a female role, or vice-versa.




I'm not really sure why it matters, honestly.
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Originally Posted By SimonPhoto:



Originally Posted By Towely:

What constitutes a transgender?



Is a cross-dresser far enough?  Implants/hormones to grow tits?




A male that wants to adopt a female role, or vice-versa.




I'm not really sure why it matters, honestly.


So, like, male nurses and stay at home dads?



 
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 9:48:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SimonPhoto:


A male that wants to adopt a female role, or vice-versa.

I'm not really sure why it matters, honestly.
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Originally Posted By SimonPhoto:
Originally Posted By Towely:
What constitutes a transgender?

Is a cross-dresser far enough?  Implants/hormones to grow tits?


A male that wants to adopt a female role, or vice-versa.

I'm not really sure why it matters, honestly.


Well that's retarded...

On the one hand we aren't supposed to lock people in to gender roles because there shouldn't be gender roles because that's sexist.

On the other hand if you don't fit in to the standard male gender identity then you're such a fucking weirdo we're going to call you something entirely different.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 11:18:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SimonPhoto:


I hate that term.

How about "normal"? Seriously.
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Originally Posted By SimonPhoto:
Originally Posted By Credge:
We only need two terms. Transgender and Cisgender.


I hate that term.

How about "normal"? Seriously.

I can't stand the sound of ""Cisgendered" either, but what's "normal" anyway?
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 11:53:34 PM EDT
That's totally what they need to be working on.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 11:57:04 PM EDT

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Honestly with it being India it makes a lot of sense.

 
Link Posted: 4/25/2014 4:53:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Towely:


Well that's retarded...

On the one hand we aren't supposed to lock people in to gender roles because there shouldn't be gender roles because that's sexist.

On the other hand if you don't fit in to the standard male gender identity then you're such a fucking weirdo we're going to call you something entirely different.
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Originally Posted By Towely:
Originally Posted By SimonPhoto:
Originally Posted By Towely:
What constitutes a transgender?

Is a cross-dresser far enough?  Implants/hormones to grow tits?


A male that wants to adopt a female role, or vice-versa.

I'm not really sure why it matters, honestly.


Well that's retarded...

On the one hand we aren't supposed to lock people in to gender roles because there shouldn't be gender roles because that's sexist.

On the other hand if you don't fit in to the standard male gender identity then you're such a fucking weirdo we're going to call you something entirely different.


We aren't talking about the LGBT crowd in the US here - we're talking about a caste in India that has existed for thousands of years. This isn't a matter of "sexist" or "PC", it's a matter of people getting equal representation under the law.

Consider it equivalent to the Civil Rights Act in the US.
Link Posted: 4/25/2014 4:54:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BlackRifleJuju:

I can't stand the sound of ""Cisgendered" either, but what's "normal" anyway?
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Originally Posted By BlackRifleJuju:
Originally Posted By SimonPhoto:
Originally Posted By Credge:
We only need two terms. Transgender and Cisgender.


I hate that term.

How about "normal"? Seriously.

I can't stand the sound of ""Cisgendered" either, but what's "normal" anyway?

Normal means "typical, average, or expected".

These people are a relatively small fraction of the Indian population. They are by definition not normal. It isn't a value judgment.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 6:21:11 AM EDT
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These people are a relatively small fraction of the Indian population. They are by definition not normal. It isn't a value judgment.
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It kinda sounds like that's "normal" for over there. India is pretty damn weird in general.
You just said yourself that they were an established caste of people going back 1000s of years.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 6:24:08 AM EDT
This is the fall of western, oh wait..........
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 6:29:15 AM EDT

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So, like, male nurses and stay at home dads?

 
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Originally Posted By ElectricSheep556:



Originally Posted By SimonPhoto:


Originally Posted By Towely:

What constitutes a transgender?



Is a cross-dresser far enough?  Implants/hormones to grow tits?




A male that wants to adopt a female role, or vice-versa.




I'm not really sure why it matters, honestly.


So, like, male nurses and stay at home dads?

 




Dunno if sarcasm or not, but by adopting a "female role," you are legally becoming a woman.





However, I am making the assumption, that there is some kind of process that prevents every Tom, Dick, & Harry from becoming a woman just because they want benefits or something.



 

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