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Posted: 8/12/2011 2:43:53 PM EST
I would like to pull some bullets empty the powder and reasemble the casings in a fashion that makes them "safe". The Disabled rounds will then be made into jewelry to be worn. Thanks for any help in advance.
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Stick 'em in a gun and pop 'em.
You're going to get a pile of people telling you about WD40 and oil and shit, but I wouldn't trust any of that stuff to do the job 100% of the time. |
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Soaking a primer in wd-40 is supposed to disable it. I haven't done it myself so YMMV.
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Quoted: Place primed case in firearm and fire. We always overlook the obvious, don't we? |
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Quoted: Soaking a primer in wd-40 is supposed to disable it. I haven't done it myself so YMMV. I seem to remember somebody doing this as a test (perhaps it was O_P). I seem to recall that the rounds still fired, even after a long soak. I could be wrong. |
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I currently have no place to fire just primed rounds... How loud would this be?? The rounds will be 7.62x39
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Soaking a primer in wd-40 is supposed to disable it. I haven't done it myself so YMMV. I seem to remember somebody doing this as a test (perhaps it was O_P). I seem to recall that the rounds still fired, even after a long soak. I could be wrong. I smell a science project. |
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I currently have no place to fire just primed rounds... How loud would this be?? The rounds will be 7.62x39 Firecracker loud. You could likely get fired steel cases for almost nothing. You just don't want any that've been sitting in the open for a while because they rust. Biggest problem I see is that all my commie guns launch the empties into low earth orbit. They're hard to find. |
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Soaking a primer in wd-40 is supposed to disable it. I haven't done it myself so YMMV. I seem to remember somebody doing this as a test (perhaps it was O_P). I seem to recall that the rounds still fired, even after a long soak. I could be wrong. I smell a science project. I have a plastic bottle full of CLP on my reloading bench which I call "bad primer hell". The ones that mangled in the process of reloading get dropped in. Some have been in there for years since I try not to make a habit of chewing up good primers and I'm not even close to needing to empty it. Sometime when I get bored I may try to seat the least damaged ones and see if they're still functional. |
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O_P did the WD40 test applying the WD40 to the base of the primer seated in a case, not to the priming material itself.
Used to be standard protocol to soak in water for several minutes to render safe... That isn't so safe as some chemicals become unstable as they dry. best bet? as mentioned... Pop the cases into your chamber and pop the primers via the firing pin. Using 7.62x39, I'd be wary or the corrosive primers often found in com-bloc stuff... Clean your weapon well and properly afterward. As mentioned... Will be about fire-cracker loud. |
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Is it really firecracker loud? I pulled the bullet/powder out of a .22 one time and fired just the primer to see how loud it was. I didn't even think it had gone off until some smoke drifted out of the barrel.
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Currently at a stand still since i don't have a bullet puller and the wife refuses to let me use pliers
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Quoted: Quoted: Soaking a primer in wd-40 is supposed to disable it. I haven't done it myself so YMMV. I seem to remember somebody doing this as a test (perhaps it was O_P). I seem to recall that the rounds still fired, even after a long soak. I could be wrong. I tried it once with penetrating oil. I took two shotgun shells, cut them open and emptied out the shot, wad, and powder. Filled the hull with about a tablespoon of oil, waited 5 minutes, then dumped the oil, and shot it in a shotgun. Primer went BOOM Second one I let sit for an hour, the primer still went BOOM. It may have sounded a little weaker but with my hearing it is hard o say. It the OP must have the "live primer" look, then fire the primer and deprime the case. Take a piece of steel rod the diameter of the primer, polish the end and give it a slight domed look. The chop of a short section, and JB Weld the section into the primer cup with the doomed part facing out. |
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Soaking a primer in wd-40 is supposed to disable it. I haven't done it myself so YMMV. I seem to remember somebody doing this as a test (perhaps it was O_P). I seem to recall that the rounds still fired, even after a long soak. I could be wrong. I smell a science project. http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot39.htm |
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Is it really firecracker loud? I pulled the bullet/powder out of a .22 one time and fired just the primer to see how loud it was. I didn't even think it had gone off until some smoke drifted out of the barrel. Yes it is. Bought a bunch of .300 Win Mag brass with unknown primers, so I took my rifle and the bag of brass into the garage to pop the primers. Most definitely use hearing protection. Most definitely be careful where you point the barrel, it WILL send a few sparks when you fire it. |
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got a piece of foam or an old pillow??? place muzzle agains tthe pillow and pull trigger it should muffle the evil POP
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Soaking a primer in wd-40 is supposed to disable it. I haven't done it myself so YMMV. I seem to remember somebody doing this as a test (perhaps it was O_P). I seem to recall that the rounds still fired, even after a long soak. I could be wrong. I tried it once with penetrating oil. I took two shotgun shells, cut them open and emptied out the shot, wad, and powder. Filled the hull with about a tablespoon of oil, waited 5 minutes, then dumped the oil, and shot it in a shotgun. Primer went BOOM Second one I let sit for an hour, the primer still went BOOM. It may have sounded a little weaker but with my hearing it is hard o say. It the OP must have the "live primer" look, then fire the primer and deprime the case. Take a piece of steel rod the diameter of the primer, polish the end and give it a slight domed look. The chop of a short section, and JB Weld the section into the primer cup with the doomed part facing out. Shotgun shells have covered/sealed primers. |
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I would say it's louder than a firecracker. But that's subjective. Let's just say it's freaking loud indoors.
Has anyone ever tried sticking primers in an oven at 550 degrees?* *Not responsible for mercury/lead poisoning when you cook food in said oven later. |
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penetrating oil will work, it just takes a looong time.
take a nail and scratch at the primer from the inside...ok, do not do this...the anvil may come flying out. You can scratch at a .22 lr and get a little pop. |
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Stick 'em in a gun and pop 'em. You're going to get a pile of people telling you about WD40 and oil and shit, but I wouldn't trust any of that stuff to do the job 100% of the time. No––it's been discussed to death and no method we know of works. At all. It CAN be done. I know this for a fact because I bought several thousand military pull-downs and they have unfired primers in them. The primers are dead––100% dead. I have no idea how they did it, but they are DEAD. OP, you can either fire them or you can decap them with a universal decapping die. Wear safety glasses, but it is completely safe to do so. Run the press so they are gently pushed out and you will be fine. |
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Soaking a primer in wd-40 is supposed to disable it. I haven't done it myself so YMMV. I seem to remember somebody doing this as a test (perhaps it was O_P). I seem to recall that the rounds still fired, even after a long soak. I could be wrong. You are correct––WD40 (and oil, and water, and anything else we could think of) does nothing. We did get a few to be a little bit subdued, but that was our best effort. |
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I currently have no place to fire just primed rounds... How loud would this be?? The rounds will be 7.62x39 They are as loud as a full-sized firecracker, so wear hearing protection. Edit to add: They also make your gun REALLY dirty––MUCH more so than firing 1000 rounds of live ammo. |
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just pull the bullet, dump the powder, and spray oil into the case/primer from the inside. that will disable it.
The primers are almost impossable to inert from the outside but any oil on the inside will kill it. You could use fired cases and buy a few bullets which is cheaper than live rds anyway. |
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just pull the bullet, dump the powder, and spray oil into the case/primer from the inside. that will disable it. The primers are almost impossable to inert from the outside but any oil on the inside will kill it. Will not. |
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just pull the bullet, dump the powder, and spray oil into the case/primer from the inside. that will disable it. The primers are almost impossable to inert from the outside but any oil on the inside will kill it. Will not. try it, pull a round spray some high viscosity oil in the case and try to fire it later. |
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just pull the bullet, dump the powder, and spray oil into the case/primer from the inside. that will disable it. The primers are almost impossable to inert from the outside but any oil on the inside will kill it. Will not. try it, pull a round spray some high viscosity oil in the case and try to fire it later. It's been done. Oil, WD40, water, etc. Nothing commonly available works. |
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Quoted: Currently at a stand still since i don't have a bullet puller and the wife refuses to let me use pliers |
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just pull the bullet, dump the powder, and spray oil into the case/primer from the inside. that will disable it. The primers are almost impossable to inert from the outside but any oil on the inside will kill it. Will not. try it, pull a round spray some high viscosity oil in the case and try to fire it later. It's been done. Oil, WD40, water, etc. Nothing commonly available works. Not on the inside of the primer.... OP tested the outside where the primer compound wasent contacted by the oil. I've accidently inerted primers with oil, on the inside of the primer. |
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Many many years ago I used heavy duty tweezers to pull the anvil out of the primer, wet the priming compound with water, and used a properly sized drill bit to lightly drill into the priming compound. (using fingers to twist the bit)
It worked like a charm. I never had an accident, but I'm older and wiser, and would never try anything that stupid again. |
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Quoted: Currently at a stand still since i don't have a bullet puller and the wife refuses to let me use pliers Got a bottle opener? Teeth? |
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Lay primer on concrete porch, step, driveway, etc and smack it with hammer
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i have used pliers many times its not going to explode.
The primer compound is only explosive when dry so if you soak it, it wont fire. the trick is getting oil in the primer. |
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+1 for pour some oil INSIDE the case to soak the live side of the primer.
Done it..waited a few minutes and had no problem putting them in a die and decapping them without incident. Wear glasses and take it easy. |
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Currently at a stand still since i don't have a bullet puller and the wife refuses to let me use pliers The pimp hand is weak with this one. |
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KROIL OIL will kill primers.
Throwing them in a bicket of water will do the same but take a bit longer. |
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KROIL OIL will kill primers. Throwing them in a bicket of water will do the same but take a bit longer. Water could dry and become live again. |
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Know anyone with a reloading press? Fire them, push primers out, get new bullets, press back into case.
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I wonder if there's some solvent that would dissolve the priming compound so it could then be flushed out rendering the primer void of compound?
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Know anyone with a reloading press? Fire them, push primers out, get new bullets, press back into case. I've deprimed a number of cases with a decapping die. Slow, steady pressure. Wear eye protection, keep your face away from the die. |
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Inertia pullers have always worked for me.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=630146&cm_mmc=Froogle-_-Reloading%20-%20Metallic%20Reloading%20Equipment%20(Not%20Presses)-_-PriceCompListing-_-630146 Shooting seems easier then press a new bullet in it. Maybe stop by a shop and see if they have spent cases and bullets that they would sell. |
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I would burn them with a LONG match, like the kind used to light fire places.
Either fire them or burn them off. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Soaking a primer in wd-40 is supposed to disable it. I haven't done it myself so YMMV. I seem to remember somebody doing this as a test (perhaps it was O_P). I seem to recall that the rounds still fired, even after a long soak. I could be wrong. This was done on the box 'o truth website, with loaded rounds. NOTHING got inside the primers...but this was loaded ammunition, not loose primers. If you remove the live primers (which is generally frowned upon, BTW; don't let many pile up, in case one detonates) soaking them in oil WILL work. I personally would fire them, though. |
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