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Posted: 2/15/2013 5:57:58 PM EDT
I mean what is the attraction, the canned entertainment? Gorging oneself at the buffet? With the possible downside why bother? The whole thing seems too forced. I feel the same about going to some turd world country to stay on some resort property because the rest of the island is a shit hole.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 5:59:23 PM EDT
The puss puss.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 5:59:41 PM EDT



After a career in the Navy, it's a pretty safe bet that you're never going to see my fat ass on one of those things.


Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:00:42 PM EDT
a cruise ship is a herd disease waiting to happen. fuck no.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:01:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:



After a career in the Navy, it's a pretty safe bet that you're never going to see my fat ass on one of those things.




Ahhhh, this explains much
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:01:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2013 6:02:23 PM EDT by Kharn]
Easy way to see multiple locations without having to book a hotel room for each night, or arrange transportation between the locations.
The dining room food is usually awesome.

Avoid the gambling and bingo, the odds absolutely suck, so you'll either need to pay the huge fees for internet access, have a good book, or attend practically every event the crew put on to stay busy on the sea days until the after dinner show starts.

Kharn
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:02:31 PM EDT
I've only been on one and it was in the Mediterranean. It was a good way to see a bunch of different countries in a short time frame, even better when the ship doesn't sink.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:03:01 PM EDT
Safe, inexpensive, meet new people, see new places. Not my cup of tea, but I understand why some people like them.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:03:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:



After a career in the Navy, it's a pretty safe bet that you're never going to see my fat ass on one of those things.




Definitely this. The Navy cured me of wanting to be anywhere near water ever again. Thank god WY has almost none. i love this desert .
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:03:28 PM EDT
A pretty convenient way to see a bit of the world; I understand your consternation, already having the best of the world there in IL.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:03:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2013 6:30:21 PM EDT by Howie_Phelterbush]
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
I mean what is the attraction, the canned entertainment? Gorging oneself at the buffet? With the possible downside why bother? The whole thing seems too forced. I feel the same about going to some turd world country to stay on some resort property because the rest of the island is a shit hole.


my parents have been on 25 RC cruises and i think 30 cruises so far.





i don't get it. watcing the news today with my boss while eatig lunch I looked up at the tv and said "that shit and being trapped on a boat with 3k idiots is why i don't go on cruises"
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:05:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2013 6:07:48 PM EDT by gggplaya]
I really don't understand why they couldn't design a 50KW backup generator into the original design of the ship. It doesn't take up that much room, would probably occupy the space of a normal suite. I can't believe the ship completely relies on the power from the engine, that's absurd. What happens if you have a normal engine failure like a bad sensor, and you have to put the engine down for a few hours? The generator would use the same fuel as the main engine, and would be plenty enough power for the sewage treatment and water pump system, as well as power for food prep.


At the very least, they can have a generator on hand and simply retrofit all their ships with fuel tap lines that lead to the top deck. Then if something like this happens, they simply airlift a generator to the ship and plop it on the deck. The crew hooks it up, starts up the genny and they have power. Considering each ship costs millions, a $50k backup generator for your fleet is nothing.

Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:07:06 PM EDT
If you aren't smart enough to figure it our, I'm not dumb enough to get it down to your level
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:07:14 PM EDT
Watch the CNBC special on the cruise ship industry.

Essentially cruise ships can offer very low cost of passage for travelers, because they make the bulk of their profits in what you spend on the ship dinning, on drinks, spa, casino, and for the various cruise ship company run island excursions.

The advantage to the passenger is that you can visit multiple locations without having to pack or unpack and you travel to those locations in luxary with no shortage of entertainment while much safer than staying on land in undeveloped nations.

Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:07:22 PM EDT
me and the wife went on one a few months ago.
had a blast. no problems.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:07:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By PanzerOfDoom:
A pretty convenient way to see a bit of the world; I understand your consternation, already having the best of the world there in IL.


Hey, I much prefer Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Florida kinda, but this unfortunately where I grew up. Hanging in til I can start to collect my pension, after that I'm out of here.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:08:01 PM EDT
I've never been on one, so I'm probably talking out my ass. I just don't see the attraction ov being cooped up with a bunch of people, even if the food is good.

I'd rather hop in the Jeep, point it west and start slowing down around western South Dakota / Wyoming and not go further than Idaho. If its up to the wife, it's hook the boat up and head toward the ocean.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:09:57 PM EDT
I have been on two cruises, both with Royal Caribbean. First one was a European Cruise, Started in Barcelona with one stop in France and 4 others in Italy. The second Cruise was a Eastern Caribbean Cruise, starting in Puerto Rico and five ports: St. Thomas; St. Croix, Antigua; Martinique; St. Lucia.

I have to say it was fucking awesome. The thing about my trips is I don't care to be on the boat, I take the longest side trips, and every day is a port of call. It is just a floating hotel that gets me to the destinations. I wake up, and we are there, I get back, eat, go to sleep, and the next day, new place. To the people who stay on the ship the whole time: Go stay in a hotel and save your money.

I plan on a Greek Island, Eastern Italy, Istanbul cruise for the next one.

Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:10:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Henny:
I've never been on one, so I'm probably talking out my ass. I just don't see the attraction ov being cooped up with a bunch of people, even if the food is good.

I'd rather hop in the Jeep, point it west and start slowing down around western South Dakota / Wyoming and not go further than Idaho. If its up to the wife, it's hook the boat up and head toward the ocean.


My point what is the attraction of being cooped up with 3K of others? I agree about SD and WY.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:11:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/16/2013 12:02:03 AM EDT by PanzerOfDoom]
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Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Originally Posted By PanzerOfDoom:
A pretty convenient way to see a bit of the world; I understand your consternation, already having the best of the world there in IL.


Hey, I much prefer Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Florida kinda, but this unfortunately where I grew up. Hanging in til I can start to collect my pension, after that I'm out of here.

Ha, come on down.

BTW, I did 21 years in the USN, sounds like a normal day underway; just a bunch of soft whiny people.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:13:52 PM EDT
Anyone been on a Cougar Cruise?
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:15:53 PM EDT
Shrimp buffett.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:19:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 2minkey:
a cruise ship is a herd disease waiting to happen. fuck no.




Floating petri dish...
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:19:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2013 6:19:59 PM EDT by SilentType]
Originally Posted By aztrooper:
I have been on two cruises, both with Royal Caribbean. First one was a European Cruise, Started in Barcelona with one stop in France and 4 others in Italy. The second Cruise was a Eastern Caribbean Cruise, starting in Puerto Rico and five ports: St. Thomas; St. Croix, Antigua; Martinique; St. Lucia.

I have to say it was fucking awesome. The thing about my trips is I don't care to be on the boat, I take the longest side trips, and every day is a port of call. It is just a floating hotel that gets me to the destinations. I wake up, and we are there, I get back, eat, go to sleep, and the next day, new place. To the people who stay on the ship the whole time: Go stay in a hotel and save your money.

I plan on a Greek Island, Eastern Italy, Istanbul cruise for the next one.



It's a fact that the Cruise ship needs you to spend "x-amount" of money onboard every day on your cruise, because if you don't they actually lose money on you since the actual cost of the cruise isn't enough to cover their expenses and even break even on you.

So, if you're smart like aztrooper you spend your time and dollars at the ports of call and end up saving a lot of money that way.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:20:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:



After a career in the Navy, it's a pretty safe bet that you're never going to see my fat ass on one of those things.




you spelled it Career, is that what you meant?
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:20:52 PM EDT
I have to make a confession, as soon as the wife and I get the youngest out of college we plan to go on a Viking River Cruise through Europe. Much smaller boat, far fewer on board and you actually get to see a bit of history not just a bunch of souvenir sellers in port. Oh, and if it starts to sink or the engine conks out it is not that big of a swim to shore.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:23:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
I have to make a confession, as soon as the wife and I get the youngest out of college we plan to go on a Viking River Cruise through Europe. Much smaller boat, far fewer on board and you actually get to see a bit of history not just a bunch of souvenir sellers in port. Oh, and if it starts to sink or the engine conks out it is not that big of a swim to shore.


My wife and I have been thinking of doing that. We know an older retired couple who did one through France and had a damn good time.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:24:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2013 6:24:57 PM EDT by wav3form]
I've been on two cruises with Royal Caribbean and had a really nice time. You only really hear the bad from people and an event like what just happened is probably pretty rare. Cruises are, so far, my most favorite vacation as being out in the middle of the ocean at night is just so peaceful.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:25:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By wav3form:
I've been on two cruises with Royal Caribbean and had a really nice time. You only really hear the bad from people and an event like what just happened is probably pretty rare. Cruises are, so far, my most favorite vacation as being out in the middle of the ocean at night is just so peaceful.


I guess, especially if the engine has conked out.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:28:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Max_Power:
Safe, inexpensive, meet new people, see new places. Not my cup of tea, but I understand why some people like them.


Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:29:23 PM EDT
The very,very top deck of the ship........
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:30:21 PM EDT
No way. Modern cruise ships are horribly designed, unsafe floating petri dishes run by eurotrash psuedo-sailors.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:35:50 PM EDT
My Uncle and Aunt went on RC cruises to meet other swingers.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:36:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BB:
No way. Modern cruise ships are horribly designed, unsafe floating petri dishes run by eurotrash psuedo-sailors.


Ever been on a cruise?
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:37:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
I have to make a confession, as soon as the wife and I get the youngest out of college we plan to go on a Viking River Cruise through Europe. Much smaller boat, far fewer on board and you actually get to see a bit of history not just a bunch of souvenir sellers in port. Oh, and if it starts to sink or the engine conks out it is not that big of a swim to shore.


That would probably be fun, I've done a Yangtze River Cruise on a locals boat as well, I was the only white guy on the boat.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:42:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By gggplaya:
I really don't understand why they couldn't design a 50KW backup generator into the original design of the ship. It doesn't take up that much room, would probably occupy the space of a normal suite. I can't believe the ship completely relies on the power from the engine, that's absurd. What happens if you have a normal engine failure like a bad sensor, and you have to put the engine down for a few hours? The generator would use the same fuel as the main engine, and would be plenty enough power for the sewage treatment and water pump system, as well as power for food prep.


At the very least, they can have a generator on hand and simply retrofit all their ships with fuel tap lines that lead to the top deck. Then if something like this happens, they simply airlift a generator to the ship and plop it on the deck. The crew hooks it up, starts up the genny and they have power. Considering each ship costs millions, a $50k backup generator for your fleet is nothing.

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You ever seen the fuel those ships run on??
Looks like the stuff on my flat office roof

But some big Cat diesel generators would be smart

Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:46:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2013 6:47:52 PM EDT by Dru]
Originally Posted By BB:
No way. Modern cruise ships are horribly designed, unsafe floating petri dishes run by eurotrash psuedo-sailors.


And female eurotrash psuedo housekeepers, cashers, waitstaff, etc....

I saw some hott female employees on the ship I was on.... ma'ma mia!
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:51:57 PM EDT
After spending much of my adult life underway on Navy ships, the appeal for me would be being at sea and having fun while a dedicated staff serves to entertain me. No watches on gas turbine main engines or being in the hot suit for flight quarters.

I sometimes miss being underway, I don't know why or never thought I'd say that ever.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:54:05 PM EDT
I did a LF6F in 2001 with a Marine BLT. Embarked aboard a LHD (USS Kearsarge) for six or so months. Saw lots of countries, met a chick in Malta, and eat, slept, PTd, and did Marine things on ship.

I went on a Carnival cruise last year with the wife's family. I slept, ate, and PTd. Only difference was I had to pay for it. Not for me.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:55:14 PM EDT
A cruise is a form of incarceration. Period.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:55:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By wav3form:
Originally Posted By BB:
No way. Modern cruise ships are horribly designed, unsafe floating petri dishes run by eurotrash psuedo-sailors.


Ever been on a cruise?


None I paid for; been on a shitload of cruise ships though.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:56:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2013 6:57:00 PM EDT by geekz0r]
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
I mean what is the attraction, the canned entertainment? Gorging oneself at the buffet? With the possible downside why bother? The whole thing seems too forced. I feel the same about going to some turd world country to stay on some resort property because the rest of the island is a shit hole.


dunno. I'm former navy so... I tend to think of vacations as being AWAY from floating in the middle of an ocean.

although i have heard that some people like it cos it's more fun - and cheaper - than nursing homes or hospitals
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:56:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
I mean what is the attraction, the canned entertainment? Gorging oneself at the buffet? With the possible downside why bother? The whole thing seems too forced. I feel the same about going to some turd world country to stay on some resort property because the rest of the island is a shit hole.
My wife dragged me on one of those cruise to "no where" , a 2 day cruise, she hoped I'd like it and book a 10 day cruise for us.
No cell service, I had to keep in touch with my business, ran up a fortune of ship to shore calls at $25 bucks a pop.
Bored out of my skull for 2 days.
the food was not that great anyway.
I grew up going to sea on my dads 40' er
I have seen the sea and prefer the Mountains

Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:56:48 PM EDT

cruise = concentration camp with a buffet
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:57:00 PM EDT
Prison with a chance of drowning.. no thanks.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:58:25 PM EDT
I've never understood wanting to go into open waters for days on end with an unending supply of stupid people everywhere outside your room.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:58:50 PM EDT
Just got back last Saturday from a Carnival cruise in the Gulf. It was our first, and we had a blast. Enjoyed the comedy shows and live bands the most.
The crew was awesome. everybody was smiling and polite. We wanted for nothing. Shit can happen no matter where you are imo.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:59:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2013 7:00:55 PM EDT by DaffyDuck]
If you can't go on one and have a good time, you probably couldn't have a good time anywhere.
For me it's the fact I can get he hell away from work and away from the phone, e-mail, fax, and coworkers that call me every 4 minutes 12 hours a day because they don't know which hand to wipe with.
Leave the country for a week with none of the above is a blessing. I drive on average about 700-800 miles a week, that week I don't drive 2 miles.
Hot chicks working on the boat from Russia, Ukraine, etc etc that are so easy to talk with, my wife gets pissed but I do it anyway.
Great food, if they bring you something you don't like, just order something else, it doesn't ost anymore. Get to see places for cheap that would cost a fortune to fly to and stay in a hotel.
Once again the media goes ape shit over something that is really an isolated incident, with the millions of miles that cruise lines make then this fire happens and Carnival is suddenly Satan in the flesh. People on that boat need to be glad that they contained the fire and no one was injured, burned or killed. A fire on an airliner most likely wouldn't have had the same results.
20/20 has a Carnival hit piece on right now, 5 minutes of it was all I could stand, it was just like a gun exposé, so full of disinformation it is a joke. They talk about how They had no A/C but footage shows people out on their balcony with a coat on. 4 days adrift and they said there was no food. Laughable.
I would leave tonight on one if I could.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:59:35 PM EDT
I've been on 3 cruises and they are the best vacations that I've ever been on. I like the food, meeting people, the ocean at night, the entertainment, the service, the not having to worry about money because its already payed for, etc.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 7:00:00 PM EDT
I don't understand why on this latest Carnival disaster as soon as the engine room burned the fuck out the passengers decided to shit all over the place and smear turds on the walls. Sounds almost like ghetto looting. Idiots.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 7:02:26 PM EDT
Because you can always get cheap tickets after something goes wrong and makes it to the news.
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