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Posted: 10/8/2007 11:05:57 AM EST
From the front page of cnn.com:



Off-duty sheriff's deputy Tyler Peterson's fired about 30 rounds from a police-style AR-15 rifle to kill six people at an early-morning party in a small Wisconsin town, officials said Monday.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:06:51 AM EST
Everyone is warmly welcome!
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:07:51 AM EST
Didn't know it was an AR-15

30 rounds, I thought those guns always jammed & were too wimpy to kill people.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:09:43 AM EST
They should be dropping in on the American Psychiatrists Association bulletin board rather than here. He could have just as well driven a pickup truck into a group of teenagers. Find out what made him snap, not the tools that he used to seek his pathetic resolution.

Maybe some screening requirements will come out of this, probably not a bad idea.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:09:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/8/2007 11:10:35 AM EST by AR15KittyKat]
As soon as I saw the cop used 30rds in the rampage, I knew the AR is very likely 100% to be used. Here's more ammo for the liberals to try another Clinton ban
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:10:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By SS109:
Didn't know it was an AR-15

30 rounds, I thought those guns always jammed & were too wimpy to kill people.



It's a "Police Style" Ar-15. It's totally different from what us peons own.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:11:02 AM EST
Thank God for the hyphen! Hey, Fox ... incoming!!!
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:11:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By pvc1984:

Originally Posted By SS109:
Didn't know it was an AR-15

30 rounds, I thought those guns always jammed & were too wimpy to kill people.



It's a "Police Style" Ar-15. It's totally different from what us peons own.


Yup diffrent throat! Just like the Chey Tac...
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:11:09 AM EST
come on in

have a seat

put your feet up
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:11:44 AM EST
I wonder if the rifle said "For Gov/LEO Use Only" on the magwell?
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:11:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By pvc1984:

Originally Posted By SS109:
Didn't know it was an AR-15

30 rounds, I thought those guns always jammed & were too wimpy to kill people.



It's a "Police Style" Ar-15. It's totally different from what us peons own.
Sorta like Chey-Tac?
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:11:56 AM EST
What is a police style AR-15?

Backwards Aimpoint?

Tacpo Rails and tac light?

AR pistols with no iron sights, no handguards and underbarrel beamz?
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:12:02 AM EST
Only police officers should have firearms.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:12:55 AM EST
WTF is a police-style AR-15?
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:13:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By Paveway_:
What is a police style AR-15?

Backwards Aimpoint?

Tacpo Rails and tac light?

AR pistols with no iron sights, no handguards and underbarrel beamz?


Don't forget "mag facing backwards"...
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:13:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By Paveway_:
What is a police style AR-15?

Backwards Aimpoint?

Tacpo Rails and tac light?

AR pistols with no iron sights, no handguards and underbarrel beamz?


Shoots around corners, tumbling bullets....
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:14:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
I wonder if the rifle said "For Gov/LEO Use Only" on the magwell?


I hope not. That makes them twice as deadly!
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:15:02 AM EST
What is "police style"?

Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:15:29 AM EST

Originally Posted By Brians_45:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
I wonder if the rifle said "For Gov/LEO Use Only" on the magwell?


I hope not. That makes them twice as deadly!


I looked at one inside a glass case before, it was terrifying.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:15:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lester_Burnham:

Originally Posted By Paveway_:
What is a police style AR-15?

Backwards Aimpoint?

Tacpo Rails and tac light?

AR pistols with no iron sights, no handguards and underbarrel beamz?


Shoots around corners, tumbling bullets....


through school walls....
heat seeking.....
nun targeting....
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:16:40 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:18:37 AM EST
Yeah the police style AR's have that "shoulder thing that goes up"
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:19:05 AM EST

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:

Originally Posted By Primos:
What is "police style"?



They come with a dog whistle.
For the win!
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:19:29 AM EST
the lethal bayonet lug...
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:21:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By Primos:
What is "police style"?



This is the sight picture:

Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:21:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:

Originally Posted By Primos:
What is "police style"?



They come with a dog whistle.


Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:21:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By DzlBenz:
Thank God for the hyphen! Hey, Fox ... incoming!!!


Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:21:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Only police officers should have firearms.


By the Brady standard we as citizens should demand the total disarmament of Law Enforcement.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:21:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By Grunteled:

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:

Originally Posted By Primos:
What is "police style"?



They come with a dog whistle.




+
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:22:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:

Originally Posted By Primos:
What is "police style"?



They come with a dog whistle.



Candidate for post of the year!
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:23:54 AM EST
Then again, a firearm was used to put that dirty dog down, too, saving teh taxpayers beau-coups bucks and making his community safe again. Was it the gun or the shooter that was at fault? Was he a civilian or a LEO?
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:25:34 AM EST
Anyone know if perhaps this was a department issued rifle? If so, then it would be an actual POLICE AR-15, not a police-STYLED AR-15.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:27:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Only police officers should have firearms.


Indeed - they have special training for this kind of stuff.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:27:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By niceguymr:
Anyone know if perhaps this was a department issued rifle? If so, then it would be an actual POLICE AR-15, not a police-STYLED AR-15.


I don't think they've said yet where he got the rifle.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:28:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By kill-9:

Originally Posted By niceguymr:
Anyone know if perhaps this was a department issued rifle? If so, then it would be an actual POLICE AR-15, not a police-STYLED AR-15.


I don't think they've said yet where he got the rifle.


And if it is a dept. weapon, I doubt they ever will.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:28:47 AM EST
Wouldn't "police-style" have an extra long sling - to fit around a gut?
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:28:54 AM EST
Happy Monday!
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:28:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By AR15KittyKat:
As soon as I saw the cop used 30rds in the rampage, I knew the AR is very likely 100% to be used. Here's more ammo for the liberals to try another Clinton ban


Yes, it will be used as more fuel for another AWB. Nevermind that anyone with a badge is exempt from such laws and he'd have gone on a rampage regardless.

Any time there's a shooting, they always want to punish the people who DIDN'T do it.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:29:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By niceguymr:
Anyone know if perhaps this was a department issued rifle? If so, then it would be an actual POLICE AR-15, not a police-STYLED AR-15.


Being serious for a moment, i don't really see this as a dept issue weapon. It's a SMALL dept in a rural area. Most of those are poor as dirt and it's a case of "bring your own".

Now, they could have gotten a HD grant.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:29:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Mattl:
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Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:
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Originally Posted By Primos:
What is "police style"?



They come with a dog whistle.



Candidate for post of the year! U got my vote
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:30:17 AM EST
Too bad someone with the same "style" rifle didn't stop him...
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:30:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/8/2007 11:33:15 AM EST by Loaded_For_Bear]

Originally Posted By Rosenrot:
WTF is a police-style AR-15?


The dangerous Police-Style the kind that should be banned, NOT the civilian version of the AR-15

edited to add: Police-Style rifles also have the Tactical Doughnut Holder attachment.


Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:31:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Only police officers should have firearms.


Indeed - they have special training for this kind of stuff.



Oooooohhhh.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:31:54 AM EST
Wonderful....First thread I look at after getting back from my friendly neighborhood gun store...BTW did I mention I just ordered a new Ar10?
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:32:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By Brians_45:

Originally Posted By kill-9:

Originally Posted By niceguymr:
Anyone know if perhaps this was a department issued rifle? If so, then it would be an actual POLICE AR-15, not a police-STYLED AR-15.


I don't think they've said yet where he got the rifle.


And if it is a dept. weapon, I doubt they ever will.


I think the press will persist until they get an answer. Now, whether the investigators are truthful is another issue altogether.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:34:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By Johninaustin:
Being serious for a moment, i don't really see this as a dept issue weapon. It's a SMALL dept in a rural area. Most of those are poor as dirt and it's a case of "bring your own".

Now, they could have gotten a HD grant.


Probably was personally owned.
It could have been something from the dept. armory, maybe an SP1 from "back in the day."
That is the only scenario, in my mind, that it could have been Dept. owned.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:39:49 AM EST
Man, I just got finished telling a friend this wouldn't be a gun issue because the media doesn't have the balls to call for cops to be unarmed. I was hoping this was his duty weapon. I know that may be a bit sick, but it would be better for our 2d protection if it was a state/county-owned weapon and not a privately owned weapon. And now that it's an EBR...
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:39:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:

Originally Posted By Johninaustin:
Being serious for a moment, i don't really see this as a dept issue weapon. It's a SMALL dept in a rural area. Most of those are poor as dirt and it's a case of "bring your own".

Now, they could have gotten a HD grant.


Probably was personally owned.
It could have been something from the dept. armory, maybe an SP1 from "back in the day."
That is the only scenario, in my mind, that it could have been Dept. owned.


From this article (fwiw):



The rifle used in the shootings is the type used by the sheriff's department, but investigators had not confirmed that the rifle he used came from law enforcement.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:41:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:

Originally Posted By Primos:
What is "police style"?



They come with a dog whistle.


Link Posted: 10/8/2007 11:59:48 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/8/2007 12:02:07 PM EST by KM598]
What are WI's laws? He was 20 yrs old. Here in MN "assault weapons" are covered on the same Permit to Purchase as pistols and obviously you have to be 21. Both would have to be Dept Issue.

On a side note. What the hell is a Sheriff's Office doing hiring 20 yr old deputies? He was also a PT Officer with a local PD. At 20 you don't have anywhere near the amount of life experience necessary to be a good effective cop. I started when I was 22, and after just 3+ yrs I can say that I was too young and naive. Luckily I had my shit squared away enough to get through it in one piece and w/o going ape-shit with my "police style AR15".

Link Posted: 10/8/2007 12:03:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By KM598:
On a side note. What the hell is a Sheriff's Office doing hiring 20 yr old deputies? He was also a PT Officer with a local PD. At 20 you don't have anywhere near the amount of life experience necessary to be a good effective cop. I started when I was 22, and after just 3+ yrs I can say that I was too young and naive. Luckily I had my shit squared away enough to get through it in one piece and w/o going ape-shit with my "police style AR15".


The issue of his age has been discussed at length in this ongoing thread about the incident.
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