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Posted: 2/1/2011 6:05:59 AM EDT

and are horrified that power might be out for a week.

Amateurs.

You guys are right. I was an ass. Sorry

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:10:40 AM EDT

[#1]

Hopefully it moves over East St. Louis and sits for a week.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:12:08 AM EDT

[#2]

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and are horrified that power might be out for a week.

Amateurs.

The rest of Missouri is afraid too. We damn sure don't want the trash in St Louis infesting the countyside.

I believe Amren is the power company there. Big suck as far as repairs go in the last big ice storm. Plus City of StL is run by people every bit as incompetent if not more so than KC and that is not easy.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:12:09 AM EDT

[#3]

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Hopefully it moves over East St. Louis and sits for a week.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:14:25 AM EDT

[#4]

If it's a full inch of clear ice from freezing rain, they'll be without power for a week or more in places - and they'll have more down trees than a season of Axe Men.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:16:03 AM EDT

[#5]

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and are horrified that power might be out for a week.

Amateurs.

The rest of Missouri is afraid too. We damn sure don't want the trash in St Louis infesting the countyside.

I believe Amren is the power company there. Big suck as far as repairs go in the last big ice storm. Plus City of StL is run by people every bit as incompetent if not more so than KC and that is not easy.

This. Except that Amren will pull all it's resources out of the surrounding area out to restore power in STL Metro and then work outward. Metro would have their power before the County and areas west and north and south.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:17:15 AM EDT

[#6]

I rather enjoy the quiet day at work and the open streets.

My 25 minute commute was still very close to 25 minutes.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:17:42 AM EDT

[#7]

A full inch of ice is no joke. I would rather have 2 feet of snow.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:18:03 AM EDT

[#8]

St. Louis craps its pants all the time. Bunch of old bastards need to invest in some Depends. What were we talking about?

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:18:24 AM EDT

[#9]

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and are horrified that power might be out for a week.

Amateurs.

An inch of ice glaze will punish anybody with an infastructure. So KY may just be exempt...

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:19:02 AM EDT

[#10]

I've been through a few ice storms in Ky. One storm was 7 days with out power.

I usually fill a couple gas cans for the generator just in case. i'll run the furnace, fridge, tv if the cable still works, and some lights.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:19:51 AM EDT

[#11]

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A full inch of ice is no joke. I would rather have 2 feet of snow.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:19:57 AM EDT

[#12]

an inch of actual ice from a storm is not something most people have experienced or are equipped to deal with.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:19:58 AM EDT

[#13]

It's getting pretty bad out here. Calling for up to 22" of snow as of right now.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:20:25 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

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and are horrified that power might be out for a week.

Amateurs.

An inch of ice glaze will punish anybody with an infastructure. So KY may just be exempt...

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:20:57 AM EDT

[#15]

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A full inch of ice is no joke. I would rather have 2 feet of snow.

When you get a full 3 to 4 inches, come talk to me.

Amateurs.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:22:37 AM EDT

[#16]

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A full inch of ice is no joke. I would rather have 2 feet of snow.

When you get a full 3 to 4 inches, come talk to me.

Amateurs.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:22:44 AM EDT

[#17]

In the late 70's we had a bad ice storm that took down many, many trees and limbs here. My sister's house lost power so she moved into my little apartment. A few hours after she got settled on the couch, her new bed for who knows how long, my apartment complex lost power.

For the next week we had cold running water only, and Coleman lanterns for light and heat. The only electricity we saw during that time was while at work. We cooked on my Coleman stoves in the kitchen. The apartment building was so drafty we didn't get overcome by carbon monoxide while burning all that Coleman white gas.

I dread ice storms for that reason - no power, no heat.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:24:15 AM EDT

[#18]

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A full inch of ice is no joke. I would rather have 2 feet of snow.

Me too. That much ice is destructive as hell and there's not much you can do about it.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:24:30 AM EDT

[#19]

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A full inch of ice is no joke. I would rather have 2 feet of snow.

The problem is, it's not going to melt off, that's what's going to be under the 12"-18" of snow and will be insulated for a while.

<<<BTW, not in St. Louis and not wringing my hands but I am taking it a little easier on the roads than if it had just been the snow we're getting.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:25:23 AM EDT

[#20]

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A full inch of ice is no joke. I would rather have 2 feet of snow.

QFT !

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:26:37 AM EDT

[#21]

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St. Louis craps its pants all the time. Bunch of old bastards need to invest in some Depends. What were we talking about?

Dude, your avatar...

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:30:38 AM EDT

[#22]

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and are horrified that power might be out for a week.

Amateurs.

An inch of ice glaze will punish anybody with an infastructure. So KY may just be exempt...

As I said above, get back to me when the ice hits 3 or 4 inches. Until then.....amateurs. Ask us how we fucking know.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:31:22 AM EDT

[#23]

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When you get a full 3 to 4 inches, come talk to me.

Amateurs.

wtf?? two inches will bring out the national guard in maine. and there are still people without power from that light dusting Kentucky got in 2009.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:32:08 AM EDT

[#24]

I think if looked beyond the idiots on the news, you will find most people are just fine and are ready to deal with the storm.

The local news has to drum up ratings somehow or another. Making it look like the end of the world every time is snows is one way to do it.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:32:44 AM EDT

[#25]

It's looking like the ice may not be as bad as they expected, hopefully. It has turned to sleet now and supposed to switch to snow shortly.

Still some icicles hanging from power lines so if the wind gets wiped-up there could be power outages yet.

I'll take 2 feet of snow over an inch of ice any day. I was without power in South County for a week last big ice storm we had.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:33:13 AM EDT

[#26]

If you have electric heat, stove, etc., I think there is cause for concern.

When I worked in the electric utility supply industry, we were the company that got called following ice storms and tornadoes.
We supply the transmission structures that would be used to replace those that went down.
1" of radial ice on the power lines is bad, combine that with wind blowing those lines and you could have lines go down.
The last major ice storm while I was employed for this company was local and wide spread.
It took over two weeks for some towns to get completely restored.
It took nearly a month for some farmers to get power.
The point being is that it takes time manufacture these structures, ship them andget them erected.
When predictions are like they are be prepared to survive without power. Look around at what is powered by electricity.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:34:05 AM EDT

[#27]

About this same time 2 years ago, we had an ice storm. 3 to 4 inches of solid ice. It effected western KY, Southern IL, and Southeast MO. I personally didn't have power for 14 days, others had no power for 5 weeks. Some areas were without running water for 10 or so days. The power line crews that came and worked said that the power grid was in far worse condition than it was in New Orleans after Katrina.

The trees around here still look fucked up from it.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:34:57 AM EDT

[#28]

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When you get a full 3 to 4 inches, come talk to me.

Amateurs.

wtf?? two inches will bring out the national guard in maine. and there are still people without power in your state from that light dusting you got in 2009.

We got 4 inches of ice in Jan of 2009. It was hardly a light dusting. And yes, it brought out the KY National Guard.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:36:01 AM EDT

[#29]

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A full inch of ice is no joke. I would rather have 2 feet of snow.

When you get a full 3 to 4 inches, come talk to me.
Amateurs.

When did you get 3-4 inches of ice? In 1998 we got 2-3 inches of ice and it was a huge problem. They got hit much worse in Canada.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_ice_storm_of_1998
ETA: someone above mentioned a storm in the midwest a few years ago. If this is what you are referring to, wiki says maximum of 2.5 inches of ice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2009_Central_Plains_and_Midwest_ice_storm

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:37:28 AM EDT

[#30]

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and are horrified that power might be out for a week.

Amateurs.

An inch of ice glaze will punish anybody with an infastructure. So KY may just be exempt...

As I said above, get back to me when the ice hits 3 or 4 inches. Until then.....amateurs. Ask us how we fucking know.

Yes, 3-4 inches is worse than 1 inch of ice, but it's still very destructive and can wipe out power for weeks. I experienced that 2 years ago.

It seems to me like you're the type of guy that after getting with a .45, would make fun of the next guy in line at the Pearly Gates for only getting shot with a 9mm.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:39:18 AM EDT

[#31]

Dont forget we have a discussion of inches here. That is an area of wild speculation for many. Just saying...

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:42:52 AM EDT

[#32]

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About this same time 2 years ago, we had an ice storm. 3 to 4 inches of solid ice. It effected western KY, Southern IL, and Southeast MO. I personally didn't have power for 14 days, others had no power for 5 weeks. Some areas were without running water for 10 or so days. The power line crews that came and worked said that the power grid was in far worse condition than it was in New Orleans after Katrina.

The trees around here still look fucked up from it.

Well imagine that, my parents were without electricity for 7 weeks, and they only had 1".

1" or 4", it's bad. You look like a fool bragging about 1" is for amateurs.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:43:45 AM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:

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and are horrified that power might be out for a week.

Amateurs.

An inch of ice glaze will punish anybody with an infastructure. So KY may just be exempt...

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:46:57 AM EDT

[#34]

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About this same time 2 years ago, we had an ice storm. 3 to 4 inches of solid ice. It effected western KY, Southern IL, and Southeast MO. I personally didn't have power for 14 days, others had no power for 5 weeks. Some areas were without running water for 10 or so days. The power line crews that came and worked said that the power grid was in far worse condition than it was in New Orleans after Katrina.

The trees around here still look fucked up from it.

Well imagine that, my parents were without electricity for 7 weeks, and they only had 1".

1" or 4", it's bad. You look like a fool bragging about 1" is for amateurs.

If there really were accumulations of 4 inches as he claims I think it would be easy to find articles about it, yet I am having a hard time finding anything about 4inches of ice in 2009.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:48:03 AM EDT

[#35]

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A full inch of ice is no joke. I would rather have 2 feet of snow.

When you get a full 3 to 4 inches, come talk to me.

Amateurs.

When did you get 3-4 inches of ice? In 1998 we got 2-3 inches of ice and it was a huge problem. They got hit much worse in Canada.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_ice_storm_of_1998

Jan 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFktZoCbpac

Kevil, KY

Livingston County, KY, well after it happened

Paducah, KY

Owensboro, KY

I'm still looking for the flying telephone pole pic

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:49:16 AM EDT

[#36]

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About this same time 2 years ago, we had an ice storm. 3 to 4 inches of solid ice. It effected western KY, Southern IL, and Southeast MO. I personally didn't have power for 14 days, others had no power for 5 weeks. Some areas were without running water for 10 or so days. The power line crews that came and worked said that the power grid was in far worse condition than it was in New Orleans after Katrina.

The trees around here still look fucked up from it.

Well imagine that, my parents were without electricity for 7 weeks, and they only had 1".

1" or 4", it's bad. You look like a fool bragging about 1" is for amateurs.

Dude. This is GD

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:50:20 AM EDT

[#37]

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When you get a full 3 to 4 inches, come talk to me.

Amateurs.

wtf?? two inches will bring out the national guard in maine. and there are still people without power in your state from that light dusting you got in 2009.

We got 4 inches of ice in Jan of 2009. It was hardly a light dusting. And yes, it brought out the KY National Guard.

Southern Indiana got some of that. I think here in IN we had people w/o power for maybe 2 weeks(only 4 days for me) in the outlying areas. KY got smoked with it though.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:50:56 AM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:

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A full inch of ice is no joke. I would rather have 2 feet of snow.

When you get a full 3 to 4 inches, come talk to me.

Amateurs.

When did you get 3-4 inches of ice? In 1998 we got 2-3 inches of ice and it was a huge problem. They got hit much worse in Canada.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_ice_storm_of_1998

Jan 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFktZoCbpac

Kevil, KY

Livingston County, KY, well after it happened

Paducah, KY

Owensboro, KY

I'm still looking for the flying telephone pole pic

Pictures do not prove 4 inches. Find me an article that says 4 inches of ICE. Not snow, not sleet, ICE and only ICE. I can not find anything that reports that when searching google.

Nevermind. NOAA says your claim is B.S.

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lmk/?n=jan_2009_ice_and_snow

A wintry mix moved into southern Indiana and central Kentucky on the
night of Monday, January 26, 2009. Precipitation began as light freezing
drizzle and freezing rain over the entire area, but changed to sleet
and then snow overnight into the early morning hours of Tuesday across
southern Indiana and northern Kentucky. Up to 6 inches of snow
accumulated across the northernmost sections of the CWA. Freezing rain
continued over southern Kentucky. On Tuesday the 27th, precipitation
changed to freezing rain over southern Indiana and northern Kentucky,
and to rain over southern Kentucky. Ice over an inch thick was reported
in many locations from the freezing rain. Tuesday night freezing rain
and sleet continued over southern Indiana, freezing rain transitioned to
rain over northern Kentucky, and rain, occasionally heavy, continued
over southern Kentucky. Minor...mainly river flooding developed in some
spots by Wednesday from the steady rain. On the morning of Wednesday,
January 28, precipitation changed over to snow from northwest to
southeast across the area. About 3 to 4 inches of additional snow
accumulation piled up in the north, with less to the south.

The storm caused Kentucky's largest power outage on record,
with609,000 homes and businesses without power across the state.
Property damage was widespread, with the damage due to falling trees,
large tree limbs and power lines weighed down by ice. In the Louisville
metropolitan area, 205,000 lost power and it took up to 10 days to get
everyone hooked back up. Area school systems were closed for an entire
week. Several emergency shelters were set up across the affected region.
In Louisville's local school system, 69 schools lost power.

Snow =/= ice.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:52:24 AM EDT

[#39]

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About this same time 2 years ago, we had an ice storm. 3 to 4 inches of solid ice. It effected western KY, Southern IL, and Southeast MO. I personally didn't have power for 14 days, others had no power for 5 weeks. Some areas were without running water for 10 or so days. The power line crews that came and worked said that the power grid was in far worse condition than it was in New Orleans after Katrina.

The trees around here still look fucked up from it.

Well imagine that, my parents were without electricity for 7 weeks, and they only had 1".

1" or 4", it's bad. You look like a fool bragging about 1" is for amateurs.

If there really were accumulations of 4 inches as he claims I think it would be easy to find articles about it, yet I am having a hard time finding anything about 4inches of ice in 2009.

The only solid thing you'll get is that "some areas had over 2 inches of ice". It varied quite a bit from area to area. It was pretty damned thick in my neck of the woods.

ETA: official max total is 2.5". But again, it varied a lot from area to area.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:52:35 AM EDT

[#40]

Sounds like what y'all really need is some "KY Warming".

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:53:40 AM EDT

[#41]

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About this same time 2 years ago, we had an ice storm. 3 to 4 inches of solid ice. It effected western KY, Southern IL, and Southeast MO. I personally didn't have power for 14 days, others had no power for 5 weeks. Some areas were without running water for 10 or so days. The power line crews that came and worked said that the power grid was in far worse condition than it was in New Orleans after Katrina.

The trees around here still look fucked up from it.

good times i'm sure. now imagine that in a city. and then where when the ice starts to melt, it starts sliding off in chunks and sheets from 30 story buildings, balconies, and bridges.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:53:55 AM EDT

[#42]

I'll take 2 or 3 feet of snow over an inch of ice.

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:54:41 AM EDT

[#43]

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About this same time 2 years ago, we had an ice storm. 3 to 4 inches of solid ice. It effected western KY, Southern IL, and Southeast MO. I personally didn't have power for 14 days, others had no power for 5 weeks. Some areas were without running water for 10 or so days. The power line crews that came and worked said that the power grid was in far worse condition than it was in New Orleans after Katrina.
The trees around here still look fucked up from it.

Well imagine that, my parents were without electricity for 7 weeks, and they only had 1".
1" or 4", it's bad. You look like a fool bragging about 1" is for amateurs.

If there really were accumulations of 4 inches as he claims I think it would be easy to find articles about it, yet I am having a hard time finding anything about 4inches of ice in 2009.

The only solid thing you'll get is that "some areas had over 2 inches of ice". It varied quite a bit from area to area. It was pretty damned thick in my neck of the woods.

No worries. NOAA says you are mistaken about how severe the storm was. Next time make sure you know what you are taking about before you make fun of others. Most of your state got around 1 inch. So I guess this makes KY a bunch of pussies for the most part, right?

Posted: 2/1/2011 6:56:57 AM EDT

[#44]

Yall should quit your crying. Try being without power for weeks in the summer after a hurricane. At least in winter you can put on more clothes, start a fire, whatever inorder to keep warm. There's no escaping 98 degrees with 6000% humidity and mosquitoes.

Posted: 2/1/2011 7:01:23 AM EDT

[#45]

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Yall should quit your crying. Try being without power for weeks in the summer after a hurricane. At least in winter you can put on more clothes, start a fire, whatever inorder to keep warm. There's no escaping 98 degrees with 6000% humidity and mosquitoes.

Generally it requires power to heat your house. So when power is out, you have no heat and your house drops in temp very quickly which is a serious problem because your pipes will freeze if it goes long enough without heat.

Posted: 2/1/2011 7:01:58 AM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:

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About this same time 2 years ago, we had an ice storm. 3 to 4 inches of solid ice. It effected western KY, Southern IL, and Southeast MO. I personally didn't have power for 14 days, others had no power for 5 weeks. Some areas were without running water for 10 or so days. The power line crews that came and worked said that the power grid was in far worse condition than it was in New Orleans after Katrina.

The trees around here still look fucked up from it.

Well imagine that, my parents were without electricity for 7 weeks, and they only had 1".

1" or 4", it's bad. You look like a fool bragging about 1" is for amateurs.

If there really were accumulations of 4 inches as he claims I think it would be easy to find articles about it, yet I am having a hard time finding anything about 4inches of ice in 2009.

The only solid thing you'll get is that "some areas had over 2 inches of ice". It varied quite a bit from area to area. It was pretty damned thick in my neck of the woods.

No worries. NOAA says you are mistaken about how severe the storm was. Next time make sure you know what you are taking about before you make fun of others. Most of your state got around 1 inch. So I guess this makes KY a bunch of pussies for the most part, right?

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/images/lmk/jan_2009_ice_snow_web/ice_accum_jan_09.png

Yeah, it wasn't four. I was wrong about that. Of course, I live in that dark purple swath. It was a boatload of fun.

I just hope St Louis and other areas fare better than we did.

I can remember hearing tree limbs breaking off all night. Constantly. It's all I could hear was breaking trees. Damnedest thing I ever seen.

Posted: 2/1/2011 7:02:00 AM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:

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A full inch of ice is no joke. I would rather have 2 feet of snow.

When you get a full 3 to 4 inches, come talk to me.

Amateurs.

When did you get 3-4 inches of ice? In 1998 we got 2-3 inches of ice and it was a huge problem. They got hit much worse in Canada.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_ice_storm_of_1998

Jan 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFktZoCbpac

Kevil, KY

Livingston County, KY, well after it happened

Paducah, KY

Owensboro, KY

I'm still looking for the flying telephone pole pic

Pictures do not prove 4 inches. Find me an article that says 4 inches of ICE. Not snow, not sleet, ICE and only ICE. I can not find anything that reports that when searching google.

Nevermind. NOAA says your claim is B.S.

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lmk/?n=jan_2009_ice_and_snow

A wintry mix moved into southern Indiana and central Kentucky on the night of Monday, January 26, 2009. Precipitation began as light freezing drizzle and freezing rain over the entire area, but changed to sleet and then snow overnight into the early morning hours of Tuesday across southern Indiana and northern Kentucky. Up to 6 inches of snow accumulated across the northernmost sections of the CWA. Freezing rain continued over southern Kentucky. On Tuesday the 27th, precipitation changed to freezing rain over southern Indiana and northern Kentucky, and to rain over southern Kentucky. Ice over an inch thick was reported in many locations from the freezing rain. Tuesday night freezing rain and sleet continued over southern Indiana, freezing rain transitioned to rain over northern Kentucky, and rain, occasionally heavy, continued over southern Kentucky. Minor...mainly river flooding developed in some spots by Wednesday from the steady rain. On the morning of Wednesday, January 28, precipitation changed over to snow from northwest to southeast across the area. About 3 to 4 inches of additional snow accumulation piled up in the north, with less to the south.

The storm caused Kentucky's largest power outage on record, with609,000 homes and businesses without power across the state. Property damage was widespread, with the damage due to falling trees, large tree limbs and power lines weighed down by ice. In the Louisville metropolitan area, 205,000 lost power and it took up to 10 days to get everyone hooked back up. Area school systems were closed for an entire week. Several emergency shelters were set up across the affected region. In Louisville's local school system, 69 schools lost power.

Snow =/= ice.

Nice work. I thought 4 inches of ice was bullshit. Sounds like they got about 1, maybe 2, inches, which is what we got and is what STL might get.