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Posted: 9/2/2005 10:53:40 AM EDT
Very Low Effective Intelligence.  It could also be called applied intelligence or net intelligence.  The consequenses of low applied IQ are magnified when the Average Net IQ of a population drops below some threshold, my guess is about 80.    

Suggested reading includes "The Bell Curve".

Consequenses of low effective IQ include but are not limited to:

Inability to do critical thinking.  They can't think through to a CORRECT conclusion.

Low quality of life.

Lack of general knowledge.  

Inability to determine appropriate from inappropriate behavior.  

Poor voting choices.

Lower educational level.  

Lack of desire to obtain an education.  Inability to see the benefit of an education.

Failure to plan ahead.

Inability to connect effect to cause.  Like, blaiming others for lives they ruined themselves.

Tendency toward criminal behavior.  They commit more crimes, are more likely to get caught, are more likely to be prosecuted, more likely to be convicted, more likely to be imprisoned.

Tendency to not 'follow the rules'.

Higher rates of illegal or harmful drug use.

Higher rates of welfare dependency.

Pay less tax per capita.  With todays tax structure they pay very little in taxes.

Consume higher social welfare benefits per capita.  They are a financial burden to others in their community and nation.

Less successful in mariage.  Get divorced when the kids are still young.

Higher rates of illegitimate births.

Poor child rearing performance.

Tendency to trash the property around themselves.

Tendency to have more health problems.  Often their health costs are borne by others.

Have a completely unjustified sense of entitlement.

In general, their lives are a mess and they dramatically lower the quality of life, standard of living, safety, and security of the more intelligent population around them.


What we are seeing in New Orleans is a predictable consequense of Low Net IQ.  

Note that net IQ and gross IQ are not the same and that the difference between the two depends upon the belief set that individuals or groups choose to adopt.


People's lives are a product of what they choose to believe in and act on.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 10:54:04 AM EDT
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Banned.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 10:54:57 AM EDT
[#2]
Its a product of Liberal Socialism plain and simple.

Thats all.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 10:55:01 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Banned.



+1

Link Posted: 9/2/2005 10:55:54 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/2/2005 10:56:40 AM EDT
[#5]
IBTL. You can get into trouble here for stating the obvious.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 10:56:47 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Its a product of Liberal Socialism plain and simple.

Thats all.



Absolutely
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 10:57:34 AM EDT
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I don't get it...... what do you mean?
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 10:57:46 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Banned.



+1   Unfortunately, some accounts are getting locked for pointing out certain things...
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 10:58:03 AM EDT
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I doubt he's going to get banned.

Ease up killer.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 10:58:03 AM EDT
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that some people might find that a little stereotypical.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 10:59:22 AM EDT
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RACIST!!!

Link Posted: 9/2/2005 10:59:28 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Its a product of Liberal Socialism plain and simple.

Thats all.



I agree.  We have "helped" these poor people so much that we've helped them lose their basic ability to fend for themselves.  The gubment ain't evacuating me to a 5-star hotel and steak and lobster meals so I guess I just sit here on the curb and drown...
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 10:59:59 AM EDT
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Alright now, lets see how that ebonics thing goes in California before we rush to conclusions... Boy, a little hurricane, everything goes to shit and everyone goes ape and well, oh it must be the LNIQ, see, I told ya so. Sheesh-
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:00:14 AM EDT
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He never mentioned race... Shit, I didn't even see it implied. Draw your own conclusion about who he's talking about, but I think it speaks for EVERYONE currently causing the added troubles in NO right now.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:00:15 AM EDT
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Quoted:
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that some people might find that a little stereotypical.



And there are times when people reaffirm the stereotype.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:02:27 AM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:
Its a product of Liberal Socialism plain and simple.

Thats all.



I agree.  We have "helped" these poor people so much that we've helped them lose their basic ability to fend for themselves.  The gubment ain't evacuating me to a 5-star hotel and steak and lobster meals so I guess I just sit here on the curb and drown...

+ Eleventybillion!
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:06:40 AM EDT
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Quoted:
I doubt he's going to get banned.

Ease up killer.



+1
He just said that the people in new orleans are a result of that.
he never said "black people" or "white people"

It is racist of YOU to assume he is speaking of blacks.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:10:18 AM EDT
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Funny some of these US citizens are acting the same as some of the ROPers, but we really rant on them and no one gives a sh!t.  When someone points out the obvious about these people (animals) down in NO, a few liberals on here start crying foul.   The raping/looting/murdering is every bit as bad as an ROPer cutting off someone's head.  In both cases innocent people are involved, but everyone's been pulling the Jesse Jackson card lately and becoming little puss!es.  Get over it, it's the truth.  US citizen or not,  if I caught them looting/raping etc I'd pop a hole in them just as quick as an ROPer.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:11:09 AM EDT
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Quoted:
IBTL. You can get into trouble here for stating the obvious.



Yup.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:13:27 AM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:
Banned.



+1   Unfortunately, some accounts are getting locked for pointing out certain things...



I was a close call yesterday.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:13:43 AM EDT
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Quoted:
It is racist of YOU to assume he is speaking of blacks.



Nail.  Head.  Making objective observations cannot be racist, sexist, faithist, whatever "ists" we have to worry about nowadays.  The emotional, irrational response to those observations is the problem.

ETA for the slow ones:

If I say Group A has lower IQs or is more likely to be a violent criminal (both measurable quantities), that is not Group-ist.  If you infer from that that I hate Group A or think Group A is sub-human, that's Group-ist.  
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:14:37 AM EDT
[#22]
in Texas we're used to telling it like it is
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:15:21 AM EDT
[#23]
Not every post that points out the obvious is racist.
But they could be.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:16:20 AM EDT
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While dining this evening at the local Dining Facility, I was watching the news on Katrina. They flashes the population of NO, somewhere around the 750,000 range, and then the number of high school graduates, 166,000. If these numbers are accurate, then the hypothesis presented in the origional post may be somewhere near correct. This isn't a racial issue, but one of public education. I do believe that LA has one of the worst public education systems in the US.

Whatever the reasons, what has happened is tragic for all of those involved.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:17:16 AM EDT
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You left out -

Poor planning on the part of local and state gubment.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:18:10 AM EDT
[#26]
Tag for home
IBTL
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:18:45 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:22:29 AM EDT
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Quoted:
While dining this evening at the local Dining Facility, I was watching the news on Katrina. They flashes the population of NO, somewhere around the 750,000 range, and then the number of high school graduates, 166,000. If these numbers are accurate, then the hypothesis presented in the origional post may be somewhere near correct. This isn't a racial issue, but one of public education. I do believe that LA has one of the worst public education systems in the US.

Whatever the reasons, what has happened is tragic for all of those involved.



I've seen stats that the HS graduation rate there was around 75%, so those numbers seem way off, even taking into account that in a population of 750,000 at least half are going to be under the age of 18.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:25:26 AM EDT
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That's a long-winded way of saying that the people who stayed behind were by and large dumbasses.

I'm sure some of them were, some of them were downright criminal and knew exactly what they were doing.

Some probably just could not get out,like the sick and or/elderly.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:27:28 AM EDT
[#30]
Good post, MikeSSS.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:28:19 AM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:
Its a product of Liberal Socialism plain and simple.

Thats all.

Absolutely


Yep. Repost below...

New Orleans voted over 3:1 for Kerry.

Tens of thousands of "dawgz" are now unleashed across the city.

DO YOU HEAR THAT ALL YOU RACE-HUSTLING, WELFARE-PUSHING, CLASS-WARFARE-WAGING, CRIMINAL-CODDLING, COP-BASHING, RIOT-TOLERATING, HATEMONGERING, WHITEY-BLAMING, THUG-LOVING, MULTICULTURAL-PUSHING, MORAL-EQUIVOCATING, DEPENDANCY-SPREADING, FAMILY-DENIGRATING, REPARATIONS-SUPPORTING, KWANZAA-KISSING, STANDARDS-LOWERING, RACIAL-QUOTA-SETTING, AUTHORITY-HATING, GODLESS, SOULESS, VALUELESS SONOFAMOTHERFUCKING SHITHEAD DEMOCRATS!??

This is YOUR city.

Those are YOUR people.

Those are YOUR constituents following YOUR message of ignorance, hopelessness, dependancy, selfishness and hatefilled amoral "get-even-with'em-ism".

The very messages that you Democrats have been relentlessly preaching to them for over 40 years is yet-again coming back to devour your city. For decades now Democrats and ESPECIALLY "Black Community leaders" all across the country preached that violent criminals are really mostly victims of racism, that riots are tolerable and are simply another expression of "justified" rage at white-America and that looting is an understandable and excusable "release" of anger at white-society's social injustice and oppression of the poor.

So to all the Democrats and Black race-hustlers  - YOUR city is reaping EXACTLY what YOU sow.

So as the motto of your much-tolerated and now-celebrated Black Panthers goes... BURN BABY BURN!!!!






Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:43:23 AM EDT
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We are seeing natural selection at work.  

F'em.  
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:46:09 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:50:34 AM EDT
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New Orleans is what the whole country will become if the policies of FDR, LBJ, Carter, Clinton(s) and the whole socialist-dominated democrat party are continued in this country. Mark my words.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:54:18 AM EDT
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I'm curious if the thread author is still with us.

Link Posted: 9/2/2005 11:58:10 AM EDT
[#36]
So wait, you're saying criminals are stupid and it makes them lazy leeches on society?


I think I get it.  Where did race come into this discussion?
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 12:04:11 PM EDT
[#37]
CTD
Circling
The
Drain
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 12:21:59 PM EDT
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Quoted:
So wait, you're saying criminals are stupid and it makes them lazy leeches on society?


I think I get it.  Where did race come into this discussion?



The racial conotation comes from the book he recommended in his post, "The Bell Curve."  The author specifically breaks his intelligence study down by race and concludes that black people, as a whole, are naturally less intelligent than other racial groups.

I think the more accurate analysis is that this is the result of decades of welfare state mentality.  As WildBoar and ArmedAggie have already pointed out, we have raised an entire generation of Americans to believe that they can do nothing without the government's help.  So when a disaster of this magnitude occurs and the government is not there to feed them, shelter them and wipe their noses, they either shut down completely or become little more than animals, preying on each other.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 12:46:55 PM EDT
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RACIST!!!


not racist! DARWIN
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 12:50:07 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:
Its a product of Liberal Socialism plain and simple.

Thats all.



I agree.  We have "helped" these poor people so much that we've helped them lose their basic ability to fend for themselves.  The gubment ain't evacuating me to a 5-star hotel and steak and lobster meals so I guess I just sit here on the curb and drown...




Yep those people are ill prepared through cultural evolution to deal with gravity.

M4-AK
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 12:53:38 PM EDT
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Whole lot of that every where.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 1:00:11 PM EDT
[#42]
EXCELLENT ACCURATE AND TRUTHFUL.

Lebrew
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