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Posted: 10/20/2016 6:11:51 PM EDT
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Taiwan, T91. 
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Posted: 10/20/2016 6:19:19 PM EDT
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What was it? And $599 |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 6:20:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2016 6:23:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2016 7:18:14 PM EDT
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Yup that's it.
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Posted: 10/20/2016 7:18:54 PM EDT
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If it's a good unit I'll buy one.
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Posted: 10/20/2016 7:19:04 PM EDT
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I have one sitting here right now for testing..........it's neat......
It's from Wolf Performance Arms (WPA) and is made in Taiwan and has been in service for years. here's an article on it http://www.gunsandtech.com/news/tyan/wpas-new-t91-piston-ar-upper-big-3-media-event/ |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 7:42:12 PM EDT
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I have one sitting here right now for testing..........it's neat...... It's from Wolf Performance Arms (WPA) and is made in Taiwan and has been in service for years. here's an article on it http://www.gunsandtech.com/news/tyan/wpas-new-t91-piston-ar-upper-big-3-media-event/ That's sweet. Let me/us know how it makes out. Thanks |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 7:47:11 PM EDT
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What makes this better than an Adams Arms upper which runs about the same money?
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Posted: 10/20/2016 7:52:22 PM EDT
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What makes this better than an Adams Arms upper which runs about the same money? the Adams Arms is a commercial US product made for commercial sales to civilians the Type 91 is a military product developed over decades of use and refinement and fielded by a number of countries it is currently in front line service. you decide Here is a WPA upper running full auto a couple weeks ago 
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Posted: 10/20/2016 7:53:31 PM EDT
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the Adams Arms is a commercial US product made for commercial sales to civilians the Type 91 is a military product developed over decades of use and refinement and fielded by a number of countries it is currently in front line service. you decide Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What makes this better than an Adams Arms upper which runs about the same money? the Adams Arms is a commercial US product made for commercial sales to civilians the Type 91 is a military product developed over decades of use and refinement and fielded by a number of countries it is currently in front line service. you decide Is it also made by the lowest bidder? 
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Posted: 10/20/2016 7:55:18 PM EDT
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Fuck Adams arms and there third rate reject POS uppers !!
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Posted: 10/20/2016 7:57:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: the Adams Arms is a commercial US product made for commercial sales to civilians the Type 91 is a military product developed over decades of use and refinement and fielded by a number of countries it is currently in front line service. you decide Here is a WPA upper running full auto a couple weeks ago  http://youtu.be/25lIfWPBdEoQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What makes this better than an Adams Arms upper which runs about the same money? the Adams Arms is a commercial US product made for commercial sales to civilians the Type 91 is a military product developed over decades of use and refinement and fielded by a number of countries it is currently in front line service. you decide Here is a WPA upper running full auto a couple weeks ago http://youtu.be/25lIfWPBdEoFTA: It says they have been using for 40+ years with no problems, I will buy one when come on out on the market. |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 7:58:22 PM EDT
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Here is a video Jim Grant did at its introduction at Big 3 East a couple weeks ago
I'm the old guy shooting it full auto.........LOL
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Posted: 10/20/2016 8:04:14 PM EDT
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the Adams Arms is a commercial US product made for commercial sales to civilians the Type 91 is a military product developed over decades of use and refinement and fielded by a number of countries it is currently in front line service. you decide I have several AA uppers and all have run great - no happy switch sadly, but that's another issue. How's the support going to be from Taiwan on these uppers? What handguards, charging handles, etc will fit them? Sure, the AA is "commercial" but it's also built around the milspec upper.... this looks interesting, but more SIG 550-ish in that it's not terribly compatible with milspec stuff other than the interface to the lower? |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 8:15:30 PM EDT
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I have several AA uppers and all have run great - no happy switch sadly, but that's another issue. How's the support going to be from Taiwan on these uppers? What handguards, charging handles, etc will fit them? Sure, the AA is "commercial" but it's also built around the milspec upper.... this looks interesting, but more SIG 550-ish in that it's not terribly compatible with milspec stuff other than the interface to the lower? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the Adams Arms is a commercial US product made for commercial sales to civilians the Type 91 is a military product developed over decades of use and refinement and fielded by a number of countries it is currently in front line service. you decide I have several AA uppers and all have run great - no happy switch sadly, but that's another issue. How's the support going to be from Taiwan on these uppers? What handguards, charging handles, etc will fit them? Sure, the AA is "commercial" but it's also built around the milspec upper.... this looks interesting, but more SIG 550-ish in that it's not terribly compatible with milspec stuff other than the interface to the lower? OK so I just grabbed the one I have laying here Geissele charging handle dropped right in....so charging handles are the same firing pin, cam pin, firing pin retainer and it looks like even a GI bolt would work as well along with using standard bolt parts....... Muzzle has standard threads so you can stuff whatever you want on it....... handguards though are proprietary........ front sight is standard |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 8:19:52 PM EDT
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somebody in korea should make a k2 style upper that is AR compatible.
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Posted: 10/20/2016 8:25:55 PM EDT
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Is it also made by the lowest bidder? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What makes this better than an Adams Arms upper which runs about the same money? the Adams Arms is a commercial US product made for commercial sales to civilians the Type 91 is a military product developed over decades of use and refinement and fielded by a number of countries it is currently in front line service. you decide Is it also made by the lowest bidder? No bidding....just one supplier: the 205th Joint service Arsenal with history traces back to the imperial time. There's no incentive to making it cheap for the ROCA. |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 8:26:33 PM EDT
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somebody in korea should make a k2 style upper that is AR compatible. Yesssssss! |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 8:36:28 PM EDT
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Hmm, I'm thinking one of these with a decent muzzle brake and a binary trigger might make for a fun little project.
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Posted: 10/20/2016 8:50:47 PM EDT
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OK so I just grabbed the one I have laying here Geissele charging handle dropped right in....so charging handles are the same firing pin, cam pin, firing pin retainer and it looks like even a GI bolt would work as well along with using standard bolt parts....... Muzzle has standard threads so you can stuff whatever you want on it....... handguards though are proprietary........ front sight is standard Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the Adams Arms is a commercial US product made for commercial sales to civilians the Type 91 is a military product developed over decades of use and refinement and fielded by a number of countries it is currently in front line service. you decide I have several AA uppers and all have run great - no happy switch sadly, but that's another issue. How's the support going to be from Taiwan on these uppers? What handguards, charging handles, etc will fit them? Sure, the AA is "commercial" but it's also built around the milspec upper.... this looks interesting, but more SIG 550-ish in that it's not terribly compatible with milspec stuff other than the interface to the lower? OK so I just grabbed the one I have laying here Geissele charging handle dropped right in....so charging handles are the same firing pin, cam pin, firing pin retainer and it looks like even a GI bolt would work as well along with using standard bolt parts....... Muzzle has standard threads so you can stuff whatever you want on it....... handguards though are proprietary........ front sight is standard Gunwritr, you make a great case for the upper! |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 8:59:28 PM EDT
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Gunwritr, you make a great case for the upper! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the Adams Arms is a commercial US product made for commercial sales to civilians the Type 91 is a military product developed over decades of use and refinement and fielded by a number of countries it is currently in front line service. you decide I have several AA uppers and all have run great - no happy switch sadly, but that's another issue. How's the support going to be from Taiwan on these uppers? What handguards, charging handles, etc will fit them? Sure, the AA is "commercial" but it's also built around the milspec upper.... this looks interesting, but more SIG 550-ish in that it's not terribly compatible with milspec stuff other than the interface to the lower? OK so I just grabbed the one I have laying here Geissele charging handle dropped right in....so charging handles are the same firing pin, cam pin, firing pin retainer and it looks like even a GI bolt would work as well along with using standard bolt parts....... Muzzle has standard threads so you can stuff whatever you want on it....... handguards though are proprietary........ front sight is standard Gunwritr, you make a great case for the upper! If I wanted to make a case for it I'd add in it has a cold hammer forged barrel......that is pretty incredible too if you price what a good cold hammer forged AR barrel costs look at what an FN cold hammer forged barrel runs http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/barrel-parts/rifle-barrels/ar-15-m16-5-56x45mm-cold-hammer-forged-barrels-prod71548.aspx so for $599 it seems like a pretty good deal.... |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 9:50:54 PM EDT
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Does the front sight fold?
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Posted: 10/20/2016 9:51:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have one sitting here right now for testing..........it's neat...... It's from Wolf Performance Arms (WPA) and is made in Taiwan and has been in service for years. here's an article on it http://www.gunsandtech.com/news/tyan/wpas-new-t91-piston-ar-upper-big-3-media-event/ Is there the sling attachment eyelet on the upper you have? It is a small piece attached to the side knob for the gas piston. Also, can yo do some detailed photos of it? I'm really excited about this. |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 9:57:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: somebody in korea should make a k2 style upper that is AR compatible. |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 10:35:51 PM EDT
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I'm going to buy one for the weird factor.
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Posted: 10/20/2016 10:39:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Word is Lionheart Industries is looking at bringing in a civvie K2C Carbine. That would be awesome sauce. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: somebody in korea should make a k2 style upper that is AR compatible. |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 10:41:45 PM EDT
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I kinda like the looks of it. Gunwritr, do you have the weight ?
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Posted: 10/20/2016 10:48:10 PM EDT
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Fuck Adams arms and there third rate reject POS uppers !! I've not heard anything bad about AA uppers. What happened to yours? |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 11:22:18 PM EDT
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Something I wonder about.
If you mounted this on a lower receiver with a foreign made pistol grip, foreign made stock and an HK steel mag would that constitute a 922r compliance violation? |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 11:39:29 PM EDT
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Is that a bayonet lug I see in the photo?
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Posted: 10/20/2016 11:40:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Something I wonder about. If you mounted this on a lower receiver with a foreign made pistol grip, foreign made stock and an HK steel mag would that constitute a 922r compliance violation? |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 11:43:05 PM EDT
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I want one to sandblast it, add wood furniture and give it to my daughter
 She loves fallout and would finally have a real fallout AR |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 11:44:28 PM EDT
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Cool, but it looks heavy as heck. Probably pass for that reason.
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Posted: 10/20/2016 11:54:53 PM EDT
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Here is a video Jim Grant did at its introduction at Big 3 East a couple weeks ago I'm the old guy shooting it full auto.........LOL http://youtu.be/NikwKWwhlfILooks really cool but what is up with all the smoke coming off the gun? |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 12:01:15 AM EDT
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Is it also made by the lowest bidder? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What makes this better than an Adams Arms upper which runs about the same money? the Adams Arms is a commercial US product made for commercial sales to civilians the Type 91 is a military product developed over decades of use and refinement and fielded by a number of countries it is currently in front line service. you decide Is it also made by the lowest bidder? Who would be held responsible for fixing tens of thousands of units if they fucked something up. And cause it is Tiwan they would probably get suicided for fucking up too. |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 12:08:54 AM EDT
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Cool, but it looks heavy as heck. Probably pass for that reason. Now THAT is a good question.......... so I just weighed it mounted onto an AR lower with collapsible stock, no mag 6.8 pounds..... |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 12:10:08 AM EDT
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Looks really cool but what is up with all the smoke coming off the gun? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here is a video Jim Grant did at its introduction at Big 3 East a couple weeks ago I'm the old guy shooting it full auto.........LOL http://youtu.be/NikwKWwhlfILooks really cool but what is up with all the smoke coming off the gun? Excess gas bleeding out near the front site and muzzle most likely. That and a lot of rapid shooting at the demo. I wonder what the barrel life expectancy is? |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 12:10:33 AM EDT
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Looks really cool but what is up with all the smoke coming off the gun? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here is a video Jim Grant did at its introduction at Big 3 East a couple weeks ago I'm the old guy shooting it full auto.........LOL http://youtu.be/NikwKWwhlfILooks really cool but what is up with all the smoke coming off the gun? seriously? that's what happens when you hand a bunch of writers a full auto and free ammo...... they shoot it doing mag dumps until its so hot it smokes....... ran fine |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 12:18:46 AM EDT
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This is what, a 1/7 twist rate?
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Posted: 10/21/2016 1:14:32 AM EDT
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I hope they import a bunch so the aftermarket can make M-LOK handguard for it.
Any chance of a 10.5" for AR pistol? 
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Posted: 10/21/2016 1:18:32 AM EDT
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$599.00? What the hell, put me down for one.
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Posted: 10/21/2016 1:27:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: somebody in korea should make a k2 style upper that is AR compatible. 
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Posted: 10/21/2016 1:29:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have one sitting here right now for testing..........it's neat...... It's from Wolf Performance Arms (WPA) and is made in Taiwan and has been in service for years. here's an article on it http://www.gunsandtech.com/news/tyan/wpas-new-t91-piston-ar-upper-big-3-media-event/ I'll give you tree fitty for it.  |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 1:29:58 AM EDT
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I'll give you tree fitty for it.
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I have one sitting here right now for testing..........it's neat...... It's from Wolf Performance Arms (WPA) and is made in Taiwan and has been in service for years. here's an article on it http://www.gunsandtech.com/news/tyan/wpas-new-t91-piston-ar-upper-big-3-media-event/ I'll give you tree fitty for it.
throw in a dog leash??
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Posted: 10/21/2016 1:32:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Put me down for five Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: somebody in korea should make a k2 style upper that is AR compatible. #ROR |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 1:33:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: throw in a dog leash?? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have one sitting here right now for testing..........it's neat...... It's from Wolf Performance Arms (WPA) and is made in Taiwan and has been in service for years. here's an article on it http://www.gunsandtech.com/news/tyan/wpas-new-t91-piston-ar-upper-big-3-media-event/ I'll give you tree fitty for it. throw in a dog leash?? Deal  |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 2:11:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: #ROR Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: somebody in korea should make a k2 style upper that is AR compatible. #ROR  God damn it Smiley, making me have to switch from mobile to PC to post my memes.  |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 2:26:36 AM EDT
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do want, when's the ETA on these
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Posted: 10/21/2016 2:31:01 AM EDT
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Yesssssss! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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somebody in korea should make a k2 style upper that is AR compatible. Yesssssss! Sadly, the K2 upper is longer then an AR. I always had the idea of a SIG 55x AR upper, but its the same deal. |
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