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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:21:35 PM EDT
http://www.startribune.com/image-found-of-man-who-hanged-38-dakota-men-153-years-ago/339132231/
His lips are pressed tightly together. His eyes stare straight ahead. And his thick beard appears streaked with gray. A recently unearthed glass-plate photograph, about 150 years old, puts a new face on a pivotal figure in perhaps early-Minnesota’s grimmest moment. Until now, historians had never seen an image of Capt. William J. Duley — the executioner on the day 38 Dakota men were hanged in Mankato after the 1862 U.S.-Dakota War. New Ulm researcher and author Elroy Ubl tracked down a descendant in Seattle who had inherited a family album of the glass-plate portraits, including her great-great grandfather’s. Now we know what the hangman looked like at the largest mass execution in U.S. history. Just how history remembers Duley — as traumatized father, notorious executioner or out-for-himself promoter — remains a thornier question. Three of Duley’s children — Willie (10), Belle (4) and Francis (6 months) — were killed in the conflict. His wife, Laura, was shot in the heel, witnessed at least one child’s slaying and was taken captive along with their son, Jefferson, and daughter. Emma. Some accounts said Laura was pregnant at the time and miscarried during her four months on the Dakota plains.  |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:23:35 PM EDT
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Sounds like it was a good day. Shame about his family.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:26:10 PM EDT
[#2]
 damn he looks cold
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:26:17 PM EDT
[#3]
Have to say, if someone worked through my family like that I'd be looking to hang every person responsible and all their friends too.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:26:22 PM EDT
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Sounds like he got his vengeance
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:27:40 PM EDT
[#5]
If that happened to my family, I don't doubt that there would be strong likely hood that I'd go off the rails too.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:29:30 PM EDT
[#6]
So the guy had his children killed and wife hurt in the conflict, so he went about to even up the score a little bit.
I understand that. I can't fault him. And I don't even have kids. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:29:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Trivia...
One of the bodies of the condemned was used as a cadaver by Dr. Mayo of Mayo Clinic fame. He kept the skeleton but the clinic later gave it back to the Native Americans...  |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:29:51 PM EDT
[#8]
Hard times call for hard men. We'll be there soon again...
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:30:44 PM EDT
[#9]
"On the day after Christmas, 1862, President Abraham Lincoln had ordered the hangings of 38 Dakota."
It's not like this guy just ran around, rounded up some "injuns" and lynched them to get revenge for his family. Old Abe ordered the execution. He was just the one chosen to do the deed. War's a bitch. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:32:05 PM EDT
[#10]
His eyes look freaky
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:35:29 PM EDT
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Have to say, if someone worked through my family like that I'd be looking to hang every person responsible and all their friends too. Yep. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:37:47 PM EDT
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So the guy had his children killed and wife hurt in the conflict, so he went about to even up the score a little bit. I understand that. I can't fault him. And I don't even have kids. Same. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:38:42 PM EDT
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"On the day after Christmas, 1862, President Abraham Lincoln had ordered the hangings of 38 Dakota." It's not like this guy just ran around, rounded up some "injuns" and lynched them to get revenge for his family. Old Abe ordered the execution. He was just the one chosen to do the deed. War's a bitch. The SJWs will bleat & cry about this guy while continuing to fellate a murderous tyrant. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:40:28 PM EDT
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She acknowledged some Dakota would feel differently, viewing Duley as the man who killed their ancestors. Boo hoo. Looks like their ancestors killed hers first. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:40:30 PM EDT
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If that happened to my family, I don't doubt that there would be strong likely hood that I'd go off the rails too. Yep. I'd hang 38 men, and then go hang 38 more. Run out of rope? I have plenty of bullets. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:41:03 PM EDT
[#16]
Looks like red legs from josey wales
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:41:15 PM EDT
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The SJWs will bleat & cry about this guy while continuing to fellate a murderous tyrant. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"On the day after Christmas, 1862, President Abraham Lincoln had ordered the hangings of 38 Dakota." It's not like this guy just ran around, rounded up some "injuns" and lynched them to get revenge for his family. Old Abe ordered the execution. He was just the one chosen to do the deed. War's a bitch. The SJWs will bleat & cry about this guy while continuing to fellate a murderous tyrant. I agree. His inclusion in the pantheon of great American's is sorely misplaced. But that is a discussion for another day I suppose. Don't know if it's relevant to this thread or not. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:42:19 PM EDT
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Of the more than 600 white people killed during the war, just over 70 were soldiers, and about 50 more were armed civilians. The others were unarmed civilians--mostly young men, women, and children who were recent immigrants to Minnesota. Historian Curtis Dahlin, who has extracted figures from public and cemetery records as well as from media reports, estimates that 30 per cent of the civilians killed were children aged ten and under - See more at: http://www.usdakotawar.org/history/aftermath#sthash.XulgQoHz.dpuf
Yep Duley is the bad guy in all of this for hanging 38 killers. 
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:43:09 PM EDT
[#19]
Damn, that dude looks intense.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:43:54 PM EDT
[#20]
If we had Col. Kurtz and ten divisions of such men....
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:44:23 PM EDT
[#21]
He looks like the Geico caveman...
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:44:31 PM EDT
[#22]
Like I said in the thread that came up a couple of months back...
Im surprised they only hanged 38. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:44:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Of the more than 600 white people killed during the war, just over 70 were soldiers, and about 50 more were armed civilians. The others were unarmed civilians--mostly young men, women, and children who were recent immigrants to Minnesota. Historian Curtis Dahlin, who has extracted figures from public and cemetery records as well as from media reports, estimates that 30 per cent of the civilians killed were children aged ten and under - See more at: http://www.usdakotawar.org/history/aftermath#sthash.XulgQoHz.dpuf Yep Duley is the bad guy in all of this for hanging 38 killers. It's always comical--though outrageous-- to see events of the long past judged by today's standards. The veneer of civilization is very thin, but people aren't often forced to ponder that notion.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:44:53 PM EDT
[#24]
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Damn, that dude looks intense. No one smiled in those old images. Frown face/dour look only for men and women. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:45:24 PM EDT
[#25]
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The SJWs will bleat & cry about this guy while continuing to fellate a murderous tyrant. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"On the day after Christmas, 1862, President Abraham Lincoln had ordered the hangings of 38 Dakota." It's not like this guy just ran around, rounded up some "injuns" and lynched them to get revenge for his family. Old Abe ordered the execution. He was just the one chosen to do the deed. War's a bitch. The SJWs will bleat & cry about this guy while continuing to fellate a murderous tyrant. You are not actually defending the natives are you? Oh, and Abe pardoned a couple hundred of them |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:45:42 PM EDT
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Damn, that dude looks intense. Pictures of that time period were always taken with a serious/somber expressionless demeanor. The idea of "say cheese!" (smiling) didn't evolve until much later. 
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:47:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's always comical--though outrageous-- to see events of the long past judged by today's standards. The veneer of civilization is very thin, but people aren't often forced to ponder that notion. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Of the more than 600 white people killed during the war, just over 70 were soldiers, and about 50 more were armed civilians. The others were unarmed civilians--mostly young men, women, and children who were recent immigrants to Minnesota. Historian Curtis Dahlin, who has extracted figures from public and cemetery records as well as from media reports, estimates that 30 per cent of the civilians killed were children aged ten and under - See more at: http://www.usdakotawar.org/history/aftermath#sthash.XulgQoHz.dpuf Yep Duley is the bad guy in all of this for hanging 38 killers. It's always comical--though outrageous-- to see events of the long past judged by today's standards. The veneer of civilization is very thin, but people aren't often forced to ponder that notion. Naw...we're evil for "taking their land..." |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:47:26 PM EDT
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damn he looks coldThat's typical. He just had 3 of his kids murdered and the rest of his family kidnapped. Plus he was in Minnesota. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:47:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pictures of that time period were always taken with a serious/somber expressionless demeanor. The idea of "say cheese!" (smiling) didn't evolve until much later. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Damn, that dude looks intense. Pictures of that time period were always taken with a serious/somber expressionless demeanor. The idea of "say cheese!" (smiling) didn't evolve until much later. So there was no YOLO back then? |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:47:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pictures of that time period were always taken with a serious/somber expressionless demeanor. The idea of "say cheese!" (smiling) didn't evolve until much later. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Damn, that dude looks intense. Pictures of that time period were always taken with a serious/somber expressionless demeanor. The idea of "say cheese!" (smiling) didn't evolve until much later. I heard about a guy in TX that smiled for a picture.... |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:48:25 PM EDT
[#31]
What is the deal with the missed button
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:48:38 PM EDT
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Naw...we're evil for "taking their land..."
Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of the more than 600 white people killed during the war, just over 70 were soldiers, and about 50 more were armed civilians. The others were unarmed civilians--mostly young men, women, and children who were recent immigrants to Minnesota. Historian Curtis Dahlin, who has extracted figures from public and cemetery records as well as from media reports, estimates that 30 per cent of the civilians killed were children aged ten and under - See more at: http://www.usdakotawar.org/history/aftermath#sthash.XulgQoHz.dpuf Yep Duley is the bad guy in all of this for hanging 38 killers. It's always comical--though outrageous-- to see events of the long past judged by today's standards. The veneer of civilization is very thin, but people aren't often forced to ponder that notion. Naw...we're evil for "taking their land..."
They should have properly filed their deeds. NFG |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:48:52 PM EDT
[#33]
Don't fuck with a man's family.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:49:16 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Of the more than 600 white people killed during the war, just over 70 were soldiers, and about 50 more were armed civilians. The others were unarmed civilians--mostly young men, women, and children who were recent immigrants to Minnesota. Historian Curtis Dahlin, who has extracted figures from public and cemetery records as well as from media reports, estimates that 30 per cent of the civilians killed were children aged ten and under - See more at: http://www.usdakotawar.org/history/aftermath#sthash.XulgQoHz.dpuf Yep Duley is the bad guy in all of this for hanging 38 killers. The captured women were raped. They raped some women to death. The hanging was going to be larger but they let many go because they were not sure about identification. Frankly apply Western concepts of justice makes no sense, what we should have done is made them hurt, bad, so they would stop messing with us. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:49:25 PM EDT
[#35]
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"On the day after Christmas, 1862, President Abraham Lincoln had ordered the hangings of 38 Dakota." It's not like this guy just ran around, rounded up some "injuns" and lynched them to get revenge for his family. Old Abe ordered the execution. He was just the one chosen to do the deed. War's a bitch. Blasphemy. Lincoln was a kind-hearted freer of the slaves. In fact, I know many spiritual people (not religious) that say Lincoln was a bringer of the light just like Barrack Obama. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:49:57 PM EDT
[#36]
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You are not actually defending the natives are you? Oh, and Abe pardoned a couple hundred of them I have seen anti Lincoln folks use this event as if Lincoln were an Indian murderer and all the ones hanged were peaceful folks who only sold dreamcatchers at flea markets. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:50:08 PM EDT
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What is the deal with the missed button Fashion. That's where they stuck a couple fingers in order to be "cool"--before cool was a thing. 
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:50:08 PM EDT
[#38]
That's a man with an impressive stash of .22LR at home. I'm sure of it.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:50:48 PM EDT
[#39]
Payback's a bitch.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:51:33 PM EDT
[#40]
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You are not actually defending the natives are you? Oh, and Abe pardoned a couple hundred of them That was a mistake. American justice wasn't a realistic goal. Harsh punishment to alter behaviour should have been the goal. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:52:08 PM EDT
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What is the deal with the missed button So he could more easily reach his flask. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:52:11 PM EDT
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The wiki, though obviously somewhat biased, is instructive of the whole episode.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:52:50 PM EDT
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Pictures of that time period were always taken with a serious/somber expressionless demeanor. The idea of "say cheese!" (smiling) didn't evolve until much later. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn, that dude looks intense. Pictures of that time period were always taken with a serious/somber expressionless demeanor. The idea of "say cheese!" (smiling) didn't evolve until much later. This is because a smile is harder to hold for the time it took to expose the glass plates. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:54:19 PM EDT
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This is because a smile is harder to hold for the time it took to expose the glass plates. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn, that dude looks intense. Pictures of that time period were always taken with a serious/somber expressionless demeanor. The idea of "say cheese!" (smiling) didn't evolve until much later. This is because a smile is harder to hold for the time it took to expose the glass plates. That's always been my understanding. If true, it makes sense. I've never really looked into it, though. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:54:45 PM EDT
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This is because a smile is harder to hold for the time it took to expose the glass plates. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn, that dude looks intense. Pictures of that time period were always taken with a serious/somber expressionless demeanor. The idea of "say cheese!" (smiling) didn't evolve until much later. This is because a smile is harder to hold for the time it took to expose the glass plates. That is no doubt correct. I hadn't thought of that, even though I've seen the act done--remove the cover for several seconds, etc. I'm surprised the pics of that era are as clear as they are. Good point--thanks!
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:55:01 PM EDT
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I heard about a guy in TX that smiled for a picture.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn, that dude looks intense. Pictures of that time period were always taken with a serious/somber expressionless demeanor. The idea of "say cheese!" (smiling) didn't evolve until much later. I heard about a guy in TX that smiled for a picture.... Beat me to it, Bastard 
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:56:19 PM EDT
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Beat me to it, Bastard Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn, that dude looks intense. Pictures of that time period were always taken with a serious/somber expressionless demeanor. The idea of "say cheese!" (smiling) didn't evolve until much later. I heard about a guy in TX that smiled for a picture.... Beat me to it, Bastard Tom Delay? Who? I'm not a Texican, dammit. 
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:57:12 PM EDT
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Old photos took 30-60 seconds to expose and smiling wasn't the convention or custom.
Also, vengeance. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:59:30 PM EDT
[#49]
Seems like a good drop.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:59:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
You are not actually defending the natives are you? Oh, and Abe pardoned a couple hundred of them Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"On the day after Christmas, 1862, President Abraham Lincoln had ordered the hangings of 38 Dakota." It's not like this guy just ran around, rounded up some "injuns" and lynched them to get revenge for his family. Old Abe ordered the execution. He was just the one chosen to do the deed. War's a bitch. The SJWs will bleat & cry about this guy while continuing to fellate a murderous tyrant. You are not actually defending the natives are you? Oh, and Abe pardoned a couple hundred of them You missed my point. The pajama boys and baristas will want this guy's bones dug up, ground into powder, and thrown into a PortaPotty because he hanged a bunch of Indians (who just happened to have killed settlers). But they'll conveniently ignore who the orders came from. ...because black people. |
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