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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:25:24 PM EDT
Me and the Family were thinking about spending a couple weeks in SD , ND , MT and maybe ID camping / maybe renting cabins . My wife then asked me something I didnt really think about , she asked did I have anything to take down a big bear ......... well I have a few guns that "will" take down a large bear but nothing that packs easy  ... FAL and a couple bolt actions in 308 plus a few mausers in 8mm . I said well its no problem I can just bring a 12 ga with slugs ..... then it hit me I do not nor have ever owned a 12ga shot gun . I have only ever owned 2 shot guns both given to me , a 20 gauge single barrel that was my dads as a kid that he gave me when I turned 10 and a 20 ga mossberg pump that my grandpa gave me for my birthday when I turned 12 because I scared the hell out of him with that single barrel . When I got old enough to buy guns I only bought rifles and pistols .  So should I buy one ? A FFL friend of mine says he has a mossberg 500 persuader with pistol grip and stock he would sell me for 300 green backs which I figure would be bad  and if the 12 ga pump is like my 20 gauge it should be a solid gun .

 
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:27:53 PM EDT
Every man needs at least one flavor of 870.  It says so on the back of your man card.

There's lots of love for the 500 out there, but is personally stay away from the PG one for a bear gun.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:29:39 PM EDT
If you buy it, put a stock on it.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:30:49 PM EDT
I'd just pack the FAL, if you can (in the legal sense). I've got a couple 12 gauges, 1 HD model and another Charles Daley Field Hunter for dove and quail. They rarely ever come out of the safe, though...
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:31:06 PM EDT
I say pick yourself up A nice Marlin lever Action and some heavy Bullets.        
 
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:32:21 PM EDT
Unless you plan on hunting bird, there is no need for a shotgun. Probably the most boring gun to shoot otherwise.
Save your money for an M16 lower/
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:32:44 PM EDT


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I looked at 45-70s which are tempting ........ I have a reloader so feeding it wouldnt be soooo bad ...
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Yeah the PG on a shotgun isnt appealing to me  , I do like the 7 round capicity though and found a couple of more particle barrels for the 7 round 500 .





 
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:33:43 PM EDT
Don't feel bad. I'm a gun guy, and I don't own a .22!
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:34:08 PM EDT
You don't own paragraphs either.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:35:41 PM EDT
I think every gun owner should own some sort of shotgun, whether he/she 'needs' one or not.  Similar to a nice revolver, for me.

Chris

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Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:36:30 PM EDT

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I failed English , Spanish and surrender err French so language isnt my strong suit .



 
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:37:20 PM EDT
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I failed English , Spanish and surrender err French so language isnt my strong suit .
 

What do paragraphs have to with language
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You don't own paragraphs either.
I failed English , Spanish and surrender err French so language isnt my strong suit .

 


What do paragraphs have to with language
Well my english teachers were always picky about them .



 
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:39:20 PM EDT
no pole option for I dont have one either.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:39:39 PM EDT
I use a suppressed sbr for hd and don't hunt birds. Have no interest in a shotgun.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:40:51 PM EDT
I only own one.  Cheap Mossberg 500.  Works well and is fun to shoot.

But since you can find a nice used pump for ~$200...the real question is why don't you own at least one?
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:41:01 PM EDT
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Yeah the PG on a shotgun isnt appealing to me  , I do like the 7 round capicity though and found a couple of more particle barrels for the 7 round 500 .
 
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I say pick yourself up A nice Marlin lever Action and some heavy Bullets.          
I looked at 45-70s which are tempting ........ I have a reloader so feeding it wouldnt be soooo bad ...


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Yeah the PG on a shotgun isnt appealing to me  , I do like the 7 round capicity though and found a couple of more particle barrels for the 7 round 500 .
 

Get some lead and some molds and you can roll your own 45-70 boolits.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:41:38 PM EDT
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I don't blame you, cheaper to shoot a .223 right now.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:44:58 PM EDT
For bear get a 45/70 guide gun.  It penetrates better on big game. Get a shotgun for small to medium size game.  9 pellet oo buck has 3" of surface area. Can't beat that for human targets if you need instant incapacitation.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:45:05 PM EDT
Mossy with a pistol grip is a fail. Look where the safety is. That being said, a marinecoated 500 I have has never failed to go bang for me.

I don't think 5 or 6 12 ga slugs would fail to stop a charge short of a really pissed off Rhino.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:45:49 PM EDT
I've got a Mossberg 835 UltiMag that is ported and it is a beauty to shoot, if you were looking for something other than the 18.5" barrel variety.

ETA: Shooting clays is good practice for leading moving targets, gauging target speed and the speed of your shot.  It's not as easy to practice or teach that with an AR or FAL.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:48:28 PM EDT
I do not own any shotguns.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:49:16 PM EDT
Get an 870. I have three, but I'm not really a shotgun guy. I don't even remember the last time I shot them, but I do love having them.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:50:41 PM EDT
The solid Ka-Chunk sound of racking the slide on a 12 ga. will make a bear go hibernate early.

The tinkly little sproink sound of chambering a round on your ar means "Dinner Time".
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:51:21 PM EDT
Shotguns are a nice side habit.

Crude, cumbersome, classless, and nasty things, that are devoid of a soul.
Everyone should have one, and be intimate with it, as a rough tool to be used when needed, and for great fun.

Not having one is a serious deficiency.
Address the matter ASAP.
They can be addicting though, so choose with expansion in mind, and post pics, when you succumb to the charms of whatever trips your fancy.


Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:53:32 PM EDT
In before autotuned Joe Biden.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:54:40 PM EDT
Owning an 870 is part of being an American
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:54:50 PM EDT
I have .410 single shot, hiwatha. Had for thirty years. Works for me. Not every ones cup of tea though, I realize.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:58:34 PM EDT
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+1

Pistol grip shotguns should be fired once for S&G and then immediately replaced with a good wood or synthetic shoulder stock.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:59:18 PM EDT
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870s belong in a trash can. the 1100 FTW.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 8:01:19 PM EDT
My only shotty is a 20 ga that came down to me by my wife's grandfather.  I've never even fired it.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 8:03:03 PM EDT
I impulse bought a Stoeger Coach Gun because a gunshop I walked into one morning just happened to have one after I watched Army of Darkness the night before. I took it as a sign of an impending invasion of Deadites and had to buy it. It's fun to shoot trap with...but that's about all it's good for





Link Posted: 9/8/2013 8:03:08 PM EDT
You need a shotgun of some type. Whether it is chambered in 12 gauge or not is up to you.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 8:05:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/8/2013 8:31:22 PM EDT
I own seven ARs and three times that many assorted shotguns, none of which are really "packable" in bear country.

That duty goes to my 4" Model 29 S&W in .44 Magnum.

dp
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 8:51:48 PM EDT
Get a Judge!
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 8:54:38 PM EDT
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Shotguns are a lot of fun

I love going o the club's tactical range and moving to and from cover while engaging targets.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 8:55:47 PM EDT
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First firearm I purchased, followed by a 10/22, than my AR
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 8:56:43 PM EDT
A 12ga was my second firearm .
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 9:00:07 PM EDT
Semi shotguns are a lot more fun than pumps. Get a Mossberg 930 for around $500 and shoot it a lot. Great versatile caliber for not much money.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 9:13:19 PM EDT
I actually shot my shotgun for the first time in months today.  I wonder why I keep forgetting it exists.  Winchester 1300  Plenty of fun.

Link Posted: 9/8/2013 9:15:02 PM EDT
Might I suggest a Benelli M4?
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 9:24:27 PM EDT
I'd say stick with the 20 gauge Mossy pump, alot of people use 20 gauges very well and effectively.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 9:32:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 9:34:26 PM EDT
I hate shotguns with a passion, but I own one just because any gun guy must have at least 1 in his collections.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 9:39:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 9:44:22 PM EDT
Have had a 12 ga. Browning BPS since I was 14.  Still have it and love it.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 9:46:32 PM EDT
I have a Winchester 1300 Black Shadow that would be good for clay or birds.  I have a Remington 870 18" that I got before I had ARs.  Don't see a need for anymore shotguns and the Remington could go.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 9:47:23 PM EDT
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20 round mag verses 7 round tube......
FAL wins! Lol
But this guy hasn't ever even owned one shotgun.
You should get one op.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 9:51:02 PM EDT
I guess I'll have to be the one dissenter in the group, so far.
TAKE THE DEAL.
Use the buttstock; forget about the pistol-grip version of it.

Appease your Wife.
Get the shotgun being offered.

You won't be sorry.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 9:51:41 PM EDT
Meh.
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