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Posted: 3/27/2006 8:25:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 9:17:59 PM EDT by shortarm53]
This writer believes illegal aliens are going to get violent when/if our legislature begins to take legal action against them and the deportations start.......and that state militias (not National Guard) will have to step up to handle the problem. The local police and National Guard will be outnumbered and unable to do the job........click on the link....read it for yourself...

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd179.htm

What do you think? I don't think our legislature has the balls to start deporting the illegals they have sat back and allowed in for years. I think I'm angry that these illegals are arrogant enough to run around my country demanding their "rights". I think they have a right to hit the border running....South....and maybe not get shot on their way out...Its way past time the American people start enforcing our own border security and homeland security. You had best get on the phones to your congress-critters if you want something done.....otherwise, violence is likely coming in the near future....
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:26:19 AM EDT
Bring it!
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:27:40 AM EDT
How come so many Arfcom posts make me think "I need to buy more ammo"
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:28:30 AM EDT
All you gotta do is rack your shotgun and they disperse!
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:28:43 AM EDT
I think it will hit the fan when the .gov starts loading them up on trucks and hauls them off.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:29:34 AM EDT
Makes me ill....

What part of " ILLEGAL" do folks NOT understand?????

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:29:56 AM EDT
Remember:

Anyone who runs is an illegal.....anyone who stands still is a well disciplined illegal.

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:31:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 8:32:05 AM EDT by Cape_hunter]

Originally Posted By PlaymoreMinds:
Makes me ill....

What part of " ILLEGAL" do folks NOT understand?????




+1



ETA: Rioting illeagals = Invading foriegn combatants.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:32:19 AM EDT
Just look at the protests they had.
Imagine we started arresting them for felony charges and deporting them.
There is absolutely no question in my mind they would start committing terrorism acts in our country.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:32:39 AM EDT
It's too late. Mexico already owns the U.S.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:32:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Cape_hunter:

Originally Posted By PlaymoreMinds:
Makes me ill....

What part of " ILLEGAL" do folks NOT understand?????




+1



ETA: Rioting illeagals = Invading foriegn combatants.



+2

If it happens here I bet it would be way worse than what happened in France.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:33:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By markm:
Bring it!



Ummm you have all these protests going on... How many of these people are illegal and WHY isnt the INS there? They just interviewed a kid on tv just now that ADMITTED she is not here legally!!!

I also LOVE how they are saying that if we stop their way of immigration, home building will cease and the head of lettuce will rise to 5.00 a head.



LOOK. Unless your family tree is 100% American Indian, we ALL have immigration status somewhere in our heritage. I have NO problem with immigration. Just do it legally, pay into the tax system, get health insurance and move on with life.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:33:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HKgnnr:
Remember:

Anyone who runs is an illegal.....anyone who stands still is a well disciplined illegal.




They should do a story about you!
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:34:50 AM EDT
Let them protest...rather than chase them let them gather in one place so it makes it easier to deport them.



Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:35:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PlaymoreMinds:
Makes me ill....

What part of " ILLEGAL" do folks NOT understand?????




+1

I did it legally. Guess which side I'll be on.

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:37:15 AM EDT
Any rioting here will be dealt with quickly and efficiently.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:37:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Greg3:
I think it will hit the fan when the .gov starts loading them up on trucks and hauls them off.



that's not going to happen, GWB and big biz want them here to keep wages down. end of story.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:39:13 AM EDT
Bring it on!!!! They are nothing more then criminals and get what ever they deserve. I hope they do riot that would finally wake up some folks that are trying to support them.

Illegals are not our friends and most hate us and the USA. How dare they plant Mexican flags on our soil. We don't need them or what they stand for in our great Country.

Make no mistake about it we are at war right now but the bullets just have not started flying yet. I feel we will see a major internal conflict in our Republic over this issue and others with in 5 years or less.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:40:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 8:41:48 AM EDT by bulldog1967]

Originally Posted By macman37:
How come so many Arfcom posts make me think "I need to buy more ammo"



Because you're right.

The Mexican/Aztlan Infitada is not far off.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:41:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By shortarm53: What do you think?
The official arfcom response to an illegal alien riot during commute....

"I'm sowwy occifer. My cruise control got stuck".
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:43:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DrFrige:


Ummm you have all these protests going on... How many of these people are illegal and WHY isnt the INS there? They just interviewed a kid on tv just now that ADMITTED she is not here legally!!!

I also LOVE how they are saying that if we stop their way of immigration, home building will cease and the head of lettuce will rise to 5.00 a head.



LOOK. Unless your family tree is 100% American Indian, we ALL have immigration status somewhere in our heritage. I have NO problem with immigration. Just do it legally, pay into the tax system, get health insurance and move on with life.




+1
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:44:05 AM EDT
They will have no need to riot, the Senate will cave.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:44:25 AM EDT
You call it riots I call it target practice
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:44:53 AM EDT

How come so many Arfcom posts make me think "I need to buy more ammo"


I don't know, but some do make me want to buy more magazines.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:45:20 AM EDT
I was trying to decide whether to spend my spare change on new pickups for the guitar or ammo.

What do you guys think?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:46:12 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:46:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hylton:
You call it riots I call it target practice



"Bring it on! I'd prefer a straight up fight to all this sneaking around." -- Han Solo

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:46:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Fourays2:

Originally Posted By Greg3:
I think it will hit the fan when the .gov starts loading them up on trucks and hauls them off.



that's not going to happen, GWB and big biz want them here to keep wages down. end of story.



Unfortunately, I think this is true.

However, on the offhand chance he DOES mean business, we don't have enough illegals here to riot. Anybody need help? Have AR, will travel.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:46:36 AM EDT
If they aren't rioting we are doing something wrong!
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:53:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 8:55:55 AM EDT by TacticalMan]
Anyone who says we have to start mass deportations is setting us up (purposely?) for failure. Beware of such people, they don't have your best interests at heart. They want failure so that they can say "See? It didn't work. The only thing left to do is nothing."

Mass Deportation is not the way to solve this problem. Making life as an illegal miserable is. Employers who hire them should be fined into bankruptcy, there should be no driver's licenses for illegals, there should be no credit extended, there should be taxes on wire transfers, Illegals who are caught should forfeit their US-based assets to pay for their deportation, they should receive no welfare or public benefits such as education, etc, etc.

In short, make them WANT to leave!

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:02:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HKgnnr:
Remember:

Anyone who runs is an illegal.....anyone who stands still is a well disciplined illegal.




Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:14:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Greg3:
I think it will hit the fan when the .gov starts loading them up on trucks and hauls them off.




A more likely scenario, in my opinion, is the .gov hauling away the armed citizens who were trying to roust, uh,...I mean,...escort the illegals out of the country.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:16:51 AM EDT
I can only imagine what the response would be if illegals started rioting - ie. turning over cars, lighting things up in a state like Texas.

Here in NY, the remaining population would be required to go to sensitivity training.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:22:17 AM EDT
What is the proper caliber for illegal aliens?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:24:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ARKAN_the_Tiger:
They will have no need to riot, the Senate will cave.



Yep, amnesty/guest worker program will be pushed through. The govt will say that after this amnesty they will close the border, for real.......... just like they did after the 1986 amnesty.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:28:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Partisan:
What is the proper caliber for illegal aliens?



Just about anything will do, just resort to whatever caliber you use for VARMINT hunting!
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:28:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Partisan:
What is the proper caliber for illegal aliens?



5.56 or 12 gauge, depending on range and price of ammo.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:29:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DrFrige:

LOOK. Unless your family tree is 100% American Indian, we ALL have immigration status somewhere in our heritage



I thought that the forerunners to the "Indians" immigrated over the land bridge between Asia and North America?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:31:17 AM EDT
Tag.


-K
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:31:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BarnStormer:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:


Ummm you have all these protests going on... How many of these people are illegal and WHY isnt the INS there? They just interviewed a kid on tv just now that ADMITTED she is not here legally!!!

I also LOVE how they are saying that if we stop their way of immigration, home building will cease and the head of lettuce will rise to 5.00 a head.



LOOK. Unless your family tree is 100% American Indian, we ALL have immigration status somewhere in our heritage. I have NO problem with immigration. Just do it legally, pay into the tax system, get health insurance and move on with life.




+1



All countries were immigrated to at one point in time except maybe Africa, so I don't buy the "This is a country of immigrants" bullshit!
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:31:42 AM EDT
Fox news is already showing protests by high school kids who walked out. If somebody gets in thier way it will turn into riots.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:36:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By falaholic1:

Originally Posted By HKgnnr:
Remember:

Anyone who runs is an illegal.....anyone who stands still is a well disciplined illegal.




They should do a story about you!



Ain't patrolling the border hell?

Git some... git some...
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:43:06 AM EDT
The shit that's going to go down is going to make Fallujah look like Kansas. Hopefully the dipshits will keep in their neighborhood! Maybe not!
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:46:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DrFrige:
Ummm you have all these protests going on... How many of these people are illegal and WHY isnt the INS there? They just interviewed a kid on tv just now that ADMITTED she is not here legally!!!

I also LOVE how they are saying that if we stop their way of immigration, home building will cease and the head of lettuce will rise to 5.00 a head.



LOOK. Unless your family tree is 100% American Indian, we ALL have immigration status somewhere in our heritage. I have NO problem with immigration. Just do it legally, pay into the tax system, get health insurance and move on with life.



I don't know that making being illegally in the country a felony is the right answer -- for all sorts of reasons, mostly unintended consequences.

What *should* be illegal -- probably a felony -- is employing an illegal immigrant, knowing that they do not have appropriate paperwork. These "employers" do it on purpose, they save on taxes and pay wages which are close to slave labor rates.

You know, if a head of lettuce produced by legal employees paid a living wage costs $5, then that is what it costs, and guess what? We might then be better off importing lettuce from Mexico, creating jobs there for these people.

No work, no government handouts and no health services (other than absolute emergency -- its not reasonable to deny that to anyone, for any reason) and there is no incentive to come here, or even to stay here.

Its the "employers" who need to be felons.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:50:07 AM EDT
Let's hope so...



Not that it needs it, but rioting illegals would certainly sway any remaining dissenting public opinion in favor of mass deportation.

and Bush would have to get up off his ass and do something


US citizenship isn't a right, it's a privilege
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:54:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 10:02:16 AM EDT by nightstalker]

Originally Posted By PhilipPeake:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:
Ummm you have all these protests going on... How many of these people are illegal and WHY isnt the INS there? They just interviewed a kid on tv just now that ADMITTED she is not here legally!!!

I also LOVE how they are saying that if we stop their way of immigration, home building will cease and the head of lettuce will rise to 5.00 a head.



LOOK. Unless your family tree is 100% American Indian, we ALL have immigration status somewhere in our heritage. I have NO problem with immigration. Just do it legally, pay into the tax system, get health insurance and move on with life.



I don't know that making being illegally in the country a felony is the right answer -- for all sorts of reasons, mostly unintended consequences.

What *should* be illegal -- probably a felony -- is employing an illegal immigrant, knowing that they do not have appropriate paperwork. These "employers" do it on purpose, they save on taxes and pay wages which are close to slave labor rates.

You know, if a head of lettuce produced by legal employees paid a living wage costs $5, then that is what it costs, and guess what? We might then be better off importing lettuce from Mexico, creating jobs there for these people.

No work, no government handouts and no health services (other than absolute emergency -- its not reasonable to deny that to anyone, for any reason) and there is no incentive to come here, or even to stay here.

Its the "employers" who need to be felons.



The proposed legislation does not make illegal immigrants felons. They are subject to deportation, not jail. As YOU propose, so does the House bill, that those who aid and abet illegal immigration are the felons, as well as those who employ them. Here's a reference to the House Bill

www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/AidAbetUnlawfulSec8USC1324.html

The media of course continues to play sound bites of protesters saying that illegals are being made felons....not true but it serves to stir up the shit.

ETA doubling the price of labor for picking lettuce would add little to the price as labor is about 10-20% of the cost. So instead of the lettuce being $1, it would be $1.10 to $1.20.

www.nationalreview.com/comment/krikorian200401070923.asp
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:54:46 AM EDT
Voto de los tejados!
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:57:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PhilipPeake:
I don't know that making being illegally in the country a felony is the right answer -- for all sorts of reasons, mostly unintended consequences.

What *should* be illegal -- probably a felony -- is employing an illegal immigrant, knowing that they do not have appropriate paperwork. These "employers" do it on purpose, they save on taxes and pay wages which are close to slave labor rates.

You know, if a head of lettuce produced by legal employees paid a living wage costs $5, then that is what it costs, and guess what? We might then be better off importing lettuce from Mexico, creating jobs there for these people.

No work, no government handouts and no health services (other than absolute emergency -- its not reasonable to deny that to anyone, for any reason) and there is no incentive to come here, or even to stay here.

Its the "employers" who need to be felons.



I'm pretty much agree with that. Just as the war on drugs or the war on guns, the only way to reduce the supply is to eliminat the demand.



I'm also curious to see what happens if we just give up. Then they'll all cry about racism and not being paid fairly, they'll want normal wages... and lettuce will go to $5 anyway.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:57:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DrFrige:

Originally Posted By markm:
Bring it!



Ummm you have all these protests going on... How many of these people are illegal and WHY isnt the INS there? They just interviewed a kid on tv just now that ADMITTED she is not here legally!!!

I also LOVE how they are saying that if we stop their way of immigration, home building will cease and the head of lettuce will rise to 5.00 a head.



LOOK. Unless your family tree is 100% American Indian, we ALL have immigration status somewhere in our heritage. I have NO problem with immigration. Just do it legally, pay into the tax system, get health insurance and move on with life.


Exactly! There is a right way and a wrong way. I have no problem with them doing it the right way, but I can't stand when people say they should be free to enter this country any way they want.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:57:50 AM EDT
Maybe there is an upside? Since most rioters burn down their own neighborhoods, one the illegals finish rioting and realize they have nowhere to stay they'll just walk back across the border.

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:16:21 AM EDT
Nuke el sitio de la órbita.
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