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Posted: 9/15/2005 12:01:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 12:02:48 PM EDT by BeetleBailey]
I would presume that it depends on what the degree is - engineering for the combat engineers, RN for the medics.

But, does simply the fact of having a four-year degree give you an "edge"? (i.e., if an individual with a finance degree wanted to join the infantry)
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:02:39 PM EDT
PFC out of boot camp... You might get some consideration but that'd also bank on your ASVAB
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:07:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BeetleBailey:
I would presume that it depends on what the degree is - engineering for the combat engineers, RN for the medics.

But, does simply the fact of having a four-year degree give you an "edge"? (i.e., if an individual with a finance degree wanted to join the infantry)



A 4 year degree would open the doors up for ya to go to OCS. Also, I think you be an E3 in bootcamp.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:07:45 PM EDT
Yup...maybe one bump in rank out of basic training.

Why not consider a commission?
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:10:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:11:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 12:11:48 PM EDT by PBIR]
In the USMC it will get you E2 payrate while you are in basic. There might be some financial bonuses and such that you could get put in your contract though.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:12:24 PM EDT
Do they offer any help for re-payment of student loans?
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:14:01 PM EDT
In the Army you get E4 in Basic with a degree. Other than that . . . you can go OCS.

And no college loan repayment if you go OCS, BTW.

Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:16:41 PM EDT
I had a degree before I enlisted in the Marines. I got PFC E-2 out of bootcamp. Army will give you E-4 out of basic. I was a Combat Engineer, and it has nothing to do with college type engineering.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:17:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 12:18:14 PM EDT by PBIR]

Originally Posted By arowneragain:
Do they offer any help for re-payment of student loans?



Pretty sure they do. I know my brother-in-law (army) did that instead of the GIMB. I'd guess that is still in effect.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:17:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Jame_Retief:
In the Army you get E4 in Basic with a degree. Other than that . . . you can go OCS.

And no college loan repayment if you go OCS, BTW.




I thought it was E4 but I didn't wanna speak out of my ass if I was wrong.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:19:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 12:24:56 PM EDT by dullh]

Originally Posted By BeetleBailey:
I would presume that it depends on what the degree is - engineering for the combat engineers, RN for the medics.

But, does simply the fact of having a four-year degree give you an "edge"? (i.e., if an individual with a finance degree wanted to join the infantry)



A four-year degree, depending on the field and your GPA, would allow you to skip the enlisted ranks altogether and go straight to OCS...or you can participate in ROTC at the university (provided your school has one). Enlistment is NOT a pre-requisite for an officer commission.

The best you'll be able to do out of basic is probably E3, but, hell, participating in HS ROTC will get you that!

If I had it to do over again I would have gotten a degree right out of HS and went for a commission...it's night vs day the difference between officer and enlisted, plus the pay is WAAAAY better for officers. Skip "basic" and go straight for OCS/ROTC...
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:30:01 PM EDT
USAF gives E3 for a 4 year BA. I ship in 60 days exactly.

Better chance of OCS...which is to say, a chance of OCS at some point.

Loan repayments: it's called a paycheck. ;)
Actually, USAF does have a program to pay back up to US$10K of loans over three yeras, but if you do that you can't do the GI Bill during that enlistment. So, US$10K v. ~$36K. Read all the fine print on that one. ;)
You can also defer your payments while you're in...

Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:33:08 PM EDT
The Combat Engineers arent exactly like engineering classes taught in most universities around the country. They basically do earth-moving, mine clearing, bridge erecting, etc.

Kharn
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:34:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 12:35:50 PM EDT by R-32]
Everyone I knew that was ARMY , went to Basic as an E-4.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:37:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Jame_Retief:
In the Army you get E4 in Basic with a degree. Other than that . . . you can go OCS.



Yep. That's how my wife started out.

That never quite sat well with me when I was outranked by a college kid even though I had been in for a couple years. But it really doesn't make a difference now.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:47:11 PM EDT
I'll echo all those who say the Army is giving E-4 for a Bachelor's...not a bad deal.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:51:35 PM EDT
Army gives E-4 for associats or above if you insist upon going enlisted
Or a Gold Bar +OCS if you want officer and have a BA or BS
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:55:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ben70:
USAF gives E3 for a 4 year BA. I ship in 60 days exactly.

Better chance of OCS...which is to say, a chance of OCS at some point.

Loan repayments: it's called a paycheck. ;)
Actually, USAF does have a program to pay back up to US$10K of loans over three yeras, but if you do that you can't do the GI Bill during that enlistment. So, US$10K v. ~$36K. Read all the fine print on that one. ;)
You can also defer your payments while you're in...





the USAF also use to give you E3 with only 2 years college credits
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 1:58:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/15/2005 2:02:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fister:
Army gives E-4 for associats or above if you insist upon going enlisted
Or a Gold Bar +OCS if you want officer and have a BA or BS



They must have changed it since I was in. The only way you could get your e-4 was a bachelor's degree.

And you are still eligible for your GI bill if the Army pays for student loans
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