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Posted: 9/19/2009 4:38:30 PM EST
If you could only put $1K into it...1911 or BHP?

That means $1 has to include the pistol plus any gunsmithing/modifications.

Which one would get you the best bang for the buck?

BHP can be 9mm or 40 S&W.

Nostalgia is not a consideration. Looking for accuracy and dependability in the real world, not the safe.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:39:10 PM EST
If I only had 1K I would buy a HK45
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:39:36 PM EST
1911.

A basic BHP will run more than a basic 1911.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:40:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja:
1911.

A basic BHP will run more than a basic 1911.


Yeah.

If you want a "custom" BHP, expect to spend no less than $1500 (not including pistol purchase price).
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:43:01 PM EST
1911.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:43:01 PM EST
Do you have any 1911's? If not, I'd get a Colt Series 70, and call it done. Maybe get some sights and grips.

If you do have a 1911 already, I'd go with the BHP. Like the Government Model, a BHP doesn't really need much. I recommend some nice grips by Craig Spegel, or Hakan Pek.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:44:50 PM EST
Not a huge 1911 fan so I would for Mr. Brownings improvement the BHP.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:46:39 PM EST
There can only be one solution to this dilema......










I'd get 2 Glocks.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:50:15 PM EST
HK P30L. Outperforms any $1k 1911 out there...with the $50 leftover...I'd put it on that
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:58:07 PM EST
If you like the feel of the 1911, the BHP has an easier recoil for quicker follow up shots. Also, a 15 rounds magazine beats a 7 rounds one any day of the week. Just get rid of the stupid magazine safety on the BHP and you'll be set. I've also heard of a few versions floating around that were double action.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:58:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By Kraut1982:
Nostalgia is not a consideration. Looking for accuracy and dependability in the real world, not the safe.

Glock 19
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:02:03 PM EST
The 1911 could use the $1000 face lift to feel as good as a BHP
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:51:35 PM EST
Originally Posted By cableguy221:
Originally Posted By Kraut1982:
Nostalgia is not a consideration. Looking for accuracy and dependability in the real world, not the safe.

Glock 19


Already have one of those.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:58:53 PM EST
1911 because i dont have one yet
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:59:40 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:05:02 PM EST
Here is what you get when you put a $1000 into a BHP (not counting the cost of the pistol).

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=2&t=254980

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:11:12 PM EST
Originally Posted By Ironmaker:
Here is what you get when you put a $1000 into a BHP (not counting the cost of the pistol).

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=2&t=254980

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m78/Ironmaker/NovakHP.jpg




Can they get similar results from a beater BHP...like a Argentine?

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:16:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 6:17:50 PM EST by Ripak]
Springfield Loaded. with cost and upgrades less than a thousand.
It's worth more than that amount to me as it's what I stake my life on.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:17:18 PM EST
Just buy a stainless CZ-75....better than both
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:18:28 PM EST


Mine was 750$. Lightly used. Came with night sights, new grips, hammer, trigger job, and a bunch of mags. It's been 100% so far. I was actually looking for a 1911 when I found it, but I've never seen a better deal on one.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:19:12 PM EST
for 1k? i'd buy 2 glocks.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:19:49 PM EST
Kimber custom II, WIlson combat mags, and ammo
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:23:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 6:30:36 PM EST by AZ_Sky]
I bought this Springfield 1911 for $450:



I spent another $400 did the work myself and turned it into this, it's a wonderful pistol and runs perfectly:
total cost $850.



I just bought a kimber Pro Crimson Carrry 2 (which includes a Crimson Trace laser pointer) for $960.



While I really enjoyed building up my Springfield, after $850 it is no better than the $960 Kimber and doesn't have a laser.....

ETA: I'm not saying that a well rebuilt 1911 isn't good, I really like the one I did, I'm just saying that these days for just a bit more money you can get a good one right out of the box complete with goodies.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:34:30 PM EST
Buy a standard Hi Power, Browning marked. (Like what you'll see in gun stores, etc.)
Night sights are all it really needs. Grip panels and a larger safety if you dislike the factory options.

You don't need to blow a lot on a Hi Power to get a reliable, accurate one.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:38:19 PM EST
Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
If I only had 1K I would buy a HK45


Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:44:44 PM EST
If you want reliability, the Hi Power beats out everything else.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:47:42 PM EST
I'd buy a FeG HP clone and a decent 1911.
Detail and polish all parts myself, swap in decent sights. Do the work myself.

Replace anything that didn't work, which shouldn't be much.

Remove mag safety on the HP.

I bet I could bring it in under a grand.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:49:31 PM EST
after owning both a 1911 and a BHP . I would buy 2 glocks a g-19 and a g-30 add night sites and a 3.5 lb connector and call it done. I own all 3 platforms
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:50:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By whiskerz:
after owning both a 1911 and a BHP . I would buy 2 glocks a g-19 and a g-30 add night sites and a 3.5 lb connector and call it done. I own all 3 platforms



I don't like Glocks.
I might be persuaded to go with a couple of XDs...

Nope. Back to real steel.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:52:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 6:52:34 PM EST by arfn]
I've owned several of both. I have always considered the HP a more reliable "out of the box" pistol. You could buy a new Colt Series 70, and have a pretty decent 1911, I think. Depends on whether you want to have a bunch of mods done to your pistol. I prefer mine close to stock, so I'd prolly go with the HP because of the reliability factor.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:52:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
If you want reliability, the Hi Power beats out everything else.


LULZ.

2 G19s FTMFW!
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:54:06 PM EST
Springfield "loaded" model.

/thread.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:02:06 PM EST
well, I just got a BHP and an extra slide assy. and 7 mags for 500 and sold the slide assy for 265 shipped.so, basically I got a BHP for 250 . I've already replaced almost all the springs, trigger pin and stocks. It's going off for Novak Low Pro sights and a park job. That's only gonna run me 200. So I guess I can get a lot more for 500$ I wonder what I should do. Hmmmm
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:06:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By JoeCoastie:
well, I just got a BHP and an extra slide assy. and 7 mags for 500 and sold the slide assy for 265 shipped.so, basically I got a BHP for 250 . I've already replaced almost all the springs, trigger pin and stocks. It's going off for Novak Low Pro sights and a park job. That's only gonna run me 200. So I guess I can get a lot more for 500$ I wonder what I should do. Hmmmm


Have Novak get rid of the mag safety and do a trigger job.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:09:01 PM EST
Springfield Loaded Stainless.

Kimber (Non-Series II) Classic Stainless.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:13:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:15:41 PM EST by JoeCoastie]
it aint going to Novak

ETA Mag disconect is already gone. It already has a Sear and Slide Sear and hammer installed in it.

also have a Para Ord SSP 1911. I wanna ditch it and get a TRP when funds permit.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:14:12 PM EST
I am a huge Hi Power fan, but.....1911 all the way. Reconnect is much faster, and can handle hotter ammo.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:16:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:18:09 PM EST by Kraut1982]
One thing is for sure...you guys have some sweet pistols...in both flavors.


BHP QUESTION: Browning now sells factory 15 rd mags for the BHP, right? Are these as reliable as the original 13 rd mags???
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:27:05 PM EST


What should I do?
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:32:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By DaveS:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/DaveDS/PA250005.jpg

What should I do?

an ar
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:33:57 PM EST
Originally Posted By Danner130:
Springfield "loaded" model.

/thread.


except the "loaded" has pretty crap internals. I know I have put over $700 into mine just to get it to run properly.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:43:50 PM EST
Originally Posted By stormwalker:
Originally Posted By Danner130:

Springfield "loaded" model.

/thread.



except the "loaded" has pretty crap internals. I know I have put over $700 into mine just to get it to run properly.



That's a bit of an anomaly, I'd say.

Anyway, to answer the OP's question ...

1911.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:47:31 PM EST
Originally Posted By DaveS:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/DaveDS/PA250005.jpg

What should I do?


Get rid of the ugly ones at 10 and 2 and replace them with pretty ones like the one at 6!
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:47:44 PM EST
Originally Posted By Seraph:
Do you have any 1911's? If not, I'd get a Colt Series 70, and call it done. Maybe get some sights and grips.

If you do have a 1911 already, I'd go with the BHP. Like the Government Model, a BHP doesn't really need much. I recommend some nice grips by Craig Spegel, or Hakan Pek.


Agree with the first part, although for the second part I'd get a second series 70 instead.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 5:17:00 AM EST
Originally Posted By Cypher15:

Originally Posted By DaveS:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/DaveDS/PA250005.jpg

What should I do?

an ar


Have:
3 in 5.56
2 in 6.8
1 in 458 SOCOM
1 AR10(T)
1 AR10-A4
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 5:36:22 AM EST
Originally Posted By DaveS:
Originally Posted By Cypher15:

Originally Posted By DaveS:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/DaveDS/PA250005.jpg

What should I do?

an ar


Have:
3 in 5.56
2 in 6.8
1 in 458 SOCOM
1 AR10(T)
1 AR10-A4


get a happy switch
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 5:41:37 AM EST
Originally Posted By stormwalker:
Originally Posted By Danner130:
Springfield "loaded" model.

/thread.


except the "loaded" has pretty crap internals. I know I have put over $700 into mine just to get it to run properly.


that's too bad. I paid less than $700 for my 1911 Loaded brand new, and it has been completely fault free, except for some truncated-cone ammo and one crappy aftermarket magazine. Maybe your case was crap ammo or crap magazines?
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 5:42:27 AM EST
1911 (Colt Delta Elite)
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 5:43:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By SGocka:
1911.

This
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:42:06 AM EST
Two used West German SIG P220s.

Link Posted: 9/20/2009 6:42:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2009 6:43:02 AM EST by CB1]
I wouldn't buy anything that needed smithing or modifications out of the box. that is stupid.

Buy a weapon that works out of the box and use the remaining money on ammo and go shoot the damn thing.

My personal perference is the 92FS. I took mine out of the box and didn't have to do anything to it. I shoot pretty good with it after some practice.
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