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Posted: 1/1/2003 8:28:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/1/2003 8:33:09 PM EST by venom_inc]
If you could have any machine gun what would it be. I am thinking I would go for a M60, or maybe a Gatling gun. What are your thoughts? [img]http://www.forestmoons.org/forestmoons/guns/documents/photos/m60.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.legendshobbies.com/itz/gat-1.jpg[/img] edit to add pictures
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 8:32:11 PM EST
M2
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 8:35:47 PM EST
A Minimi would be pretty kewl.
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 8:36:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/1/2003 8:41:53 PM EST by venom_inc]
M2...good choice...I enjoyed firing it, but being the 60 gunner, I have a special place in my heart for lugging that around. Isn't it against the Geneva Convention to shoot someone with the M2? [img]http://www.kmike.com/KWjpg/mghb.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 8:40:47 PM EST
GE Mini gun.... mmmmm.... I'd like me some of that... I'd hit it
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 8:43:19 PM EST
MAG 58. Close second is a PKM.
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 8:43:25 PM EST
MG 42!!! If not that than a M 60.
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 8:44:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/1/2003 9:05:22 PM EST by venom_inc]
I like the GE MINIGUN...looks tuff! Wonder how much one would cost. [img]http://www.ccfa.com/images/GE%20Minigun%20replica%20right%20front%20quar­tering%20full%20view.JPG[/img] and is this the minime? [img]http://www.fnmfg.com/products/m249/m249-ed1.jpg[/img] Edit to correct the minime/m249
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 8:49:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/1/2003 8:51:09 PM EST by venom_inc]
MAG 58 [img]http://www.hobbyvista.com/anzacsteel/Armoured%20Vehicles/Images/aslavph_14.jpg[/img] PKM [img]http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/images/159-1.jpg[/img] MG42 [img]http://toychestandcollectables.com/shop/media/mg42-tripod300.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 8:49:35 PM EST
Another vote for a MAG 58. By the way according to Henry Bowman the M-60 was on of the worst MG ever made. Any truth to what he says ?
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 8:53:24 PM EST
Originally Posted By Philadelphia_GunMan: Another vote for a MAG 58. By the way according to Henry Bowman the M-60 was on of the worst MG ever made. Any truth to what he says ?
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I would have to say he is mistaken, but everyone has their own opinion. That is my pick so I am biased as well. I loved it. It was a little heavy, especially with the barrel bag, and all the accessories.
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 9:06:11 PM EST
Originally Posted By Philadelphia_GunMan: Another vote for a MAG 58. By the way according to Henry Bowman the M-60 was on of the worst MG ever made. Any truth to what he says ?
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I wouldn't say the 60 is any where near the worst machine guns.... Many people are very partial to the 60, including many military personnel on this board who have used the 60... I always like it, except for one minor incident, but we won't get into that...
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 9:07:57 PM EST
Is this a better MG42? [img]http://www.gulfcoastarmory.com/shoots/kcr/10-2000/dual-mg42.jpg[/img] It is a dual setup![^]
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 9:23:30 PM EST
MG42 for ammo cost reasons (and it's just plain cool anyway...)
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 9:30:07 PM EST
either an M60 or Ma Deuce
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 10:07:11 PM EST
Only one,,,, that's no fair at all. Although not really a MG a gatling would be fun, but for real business I really like the M2. Ol JMB knew what he was doing when he designed that one. jj
Link Posted: 1/1/2003 10:08:20 PM EST
I know it is not fair, list all you like, I just enjoy mass stopping power!!!
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 1:54:37 AM EST
M60 or an MP44/StG44. While not a grunt, I usually got stuck with my section's M60 during my years of service , and they were reliable and fun as long as you slavishly maintianed them and had an idea about what you were doing. The key was always making sure that you kept the gas cylinder clean; it had to be absolutely free of oil and you had to scrape the carbon and copper build-up off of it. A former grunt told me it would be much more reliable and if you lubed the gas cylinder with the Lithium grease intended for the Bradley's M252 Bushmaster cannon, and that always seemed to help.
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 1:59:03 AM EST
MP44 [img]http://www.newspeak.org/asl/pix/weapons/mp44.jpg[/img] STG44 [img]http://www.airsoftcanada.com/review/aeg/stg44/stg441.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 2:17:44 AM EST
Originally Posted By venom_inc: Isn't it against the Geneva Convention to shoot someone with the M2?
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Urban legend. GE Minigun, MAG58, MG42 in that order.
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 2:38:20 AM EST
Mini-gun would be too expensive to shoot, plus you would have to shoot at cars and stuff like that to get enjoyment. Not many places here in VA where you can shoot at cars. [:)] Either a M2, M60, MG34 or MG42. Or one of each. [:D]
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 3:04:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/2/2003 3:07:14 AM EST by coltcarbine]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted By venom_inc: Isn't it against the Geneva Convention to shoot someone with the M2? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Urban legend.
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I agree. I had heard that before but got to thinking, since the deployment of the Barrett .50 M82 as a sniper rifle, why would it be against the G.C. to shoot personnel with an M2, but ok to shoot personnel with an single round of .50? Then there's the case of Carlos Hathcock who used an modified M2 with a scope to make a succesful shot and hit a enemy soldier. Anyway, I agree with Pony. Just my 2 cents that made me go, "hmmmm". but to answer the original question, i would chose the M4 with the M203. also, can i have an unlimited lifetime supply of ammo, practice rounds and 40 mike mikes??? please?
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 3:19:05 AM EST
First choice would be a 30 mm GAU-8/A seven-barrel Gatling gun. You know, the thing they stick under the A-10's nose? [:P] [img]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/equip/gau-8-fig14.jpg[/img] It might be somewhat difficult to mount it to my little 4X4 Ranger, but I'd figure out how! After that I'd have to go with the Ma-Duce! [b][red][i]Libertas an Mortis!![/b][/red][/i]
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 3:19:36 AM EST
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 3:21:19 AM EST
M249
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 3:22:41 AM EST
MP44's an assault rifle Anything 20mm or 30mm isn't a machine gun, it's a CANNON! In fact, the 12.7mm can be thought of as either a heavy machinegun or light portable cannon. I think HMG is a better description though.
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 3:25:07 AM EST
Originally Posted By 82ndAbn: 20mm Chain Gun [url]http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/amphibs/peleliu/pel-chain.jpg[/url]
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I WANT ONE!!!! 20mm. MMMMM
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 3:27:24 AM EST
MAG 58 or M60E3
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 3:32:30 AM EST
[img]www.isayeret.com/weapons/lmg/minimi/mk46.jpg[/img] The MK46 MOD 0 is a special model of the M249 developed to meet a US Special Operations requirement for a lightweight variant of the M249 that would retain the intrinsic functionality and reliability of the standard model. A 4.1 pound weight reduction was achieved by using a new lightweight barrel (available in standard and fluted) and removing the carrying handle, magazine well and vehicle mounting lugs (for vehicle applications). Unique to the MK46 MOD0 is Picatinny Rails that accommodate scopes, laser designators and flashlights. It also has a forward pistol grip and a detachable bipod.
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 10:15:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/2/2003 10:15:52 AM EST by AMHsix]
[b]CIS Ultimax 100 MKIII[/b] [img]http://www.free-time.ru/military/img/b/ultimax_2_b.jpg[/img] Second choice: MG42
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 10:22:46 AM EST
M60E4 for me! [img]http://www.military-page.de/waffen/saco/m60/bild_m60_07.jpg[/img] Of course, we'll have to have a ^%$#$ revolution in this country for me ever to be able to own one! [:(]
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 10:24:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/2/2003 10:38:58 AM EST by SHIVAN]
Originally Posted By 7: Mini-gun would be too expensive to shoot, plus you would have to shoot at cars and stuff like that to get enjoyment. Not many places here in VA where you can shoot at cars. [:)]
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7: You can drive your jeep up to the top of Hite Hollow's range - easy. I'd happily shoot it up for you too. [50]
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 10:25:34 AM EST
GE Mini-gun...they bring good things to life.
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 10:27:25 AM EST
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 10:30:58 AM EST
GE Mini gun, M249 in that order.
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 10:41:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/2/2003 10:42:56 AM EST by ar10er]
You can not technically use a .50 for shooting at people, but, you can use it to destroy gear, like buttons on uniforms. If there happens to be an office in the uniform then that is just collaterall damage. I have an uncle who destroyed material in Korea with a MADUCE, using ammo loaded by hand in Quantico. You know those buttons can be mighty small.[;)]
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 10:59:49 AM EST
Originally Posted By ar10er: You can not technically use a .50 for shooting at people, but, you can use it to destroy gear, like buttons on uniforms. If there happens to be an office in the uniform then that is just collaterall damage. I have an uncle who destroyed material in Korea with a MADUCE, using ammo loaded by hand in Quantico. You know those buttons can be mighty small.[;)]
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Damn, beat me to it. Collateral damage is a bitch.
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 11:02:55 AM EST
Wicked pics dudes!!! I'd have to pick the MG-42, talk about a weapon ahead of it's time. Can you imagine being a GI in, say, Hirtengem (sp?) Forest going up against emplaced MG-42's ripping out 8mm Mauser (.30-06 equiv) at 1200rpm? I can't!! Those fuckers had stones the size of cantalopes!!!! -Eric PS - 2nd place has gotta be the M2
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 11:02:57 AM EST
First choice:M1910 Russian Maxim watercooled with the wheeled mount & shield [img]http://www.blackrivermilitaria.com/1910~cap.jpg[/img] 7.62x54R is fairly cheap, the Maxim chugs along at a nice sewing machine like pace & water cooled beltfeds are just neat. A Colt 'potato digger' M1895 would be near the top of my list also (then again I like Nagant revolvers & other weird, esoteric iron). Air cooled I'd go for a MG42 or maybe a Bren/Zb30. Where does a BAR fit in? If it counts as a MG then it would be tied with the MG42 on my wish list.
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 11:07:44 AM EST
[img]http://remtek.com/arms/fn/mag/gpmg.jpg[/img] FN MAG 58 My Dream HOG
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 11:11:52 AM EST
I would not, to much money in ammo, and it makes you a bad rifleman. (IMO)
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 11:42:28 AM EST
Originally Posted By ar10er: You can not technically use a .50 for shooting at people, but, you can use it to destroy gear, like buttons on uniforms. If there happens to be an office in the uniform then that is just collaterall damage. I have an uncle who destroyed material in Korea with a MADUCE, using ammo loaded by hand in Quantico. You know those buttons can be mighty small.[;)]
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.50 cal weapons, either sniper rifles or HMGS can AND WILL BE used against personnel targets, that is one old rumor that still hasnt died. And if it were banned...it would be the one of the Hague conventions covering it not the Geneva convention.
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 11:45:45 AM EST
my dream machine gun would be either a full auto SW5 or a Mini-14. ian
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 12:01:33 PM EST
One word: PHALANX [img]http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/systems/images/mk15-dnsc8208444.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/systems/images/mk-15-dvic516.jpg[/img] Reason? Home defense.
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 12:04:40 PM EST
GE Vulcan
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 12:31:10 PM EST
If I could only have one, I'd go for the M16. And, get a big heap of uppers and conversion parts for it!
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 3:47:55 PM EST
Isn't it against the Geneva Convention to shoot someone with the M2?
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I think this is thought because the M2 was used in WW1 as an anti-armor weapon. I think. Anyhow, I will cheat and say my weapon of choice would be the grease gun.
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 4:00:59 PM EST
MG42
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 4:03:10 PM EST
BAR
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 4:12:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/2/2003 4:13:17 PM EST by Red-Leg]
ZSU-23/4 [}:D] [img]http://www.ifrance.com/ArmyReco/Russe/vehicule_artillerie/ZSU-23-4/ZSU-23-4_Russe_05.jpg[/img] BTW - some pretty cool pics on that site.
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 6:43:09 PM EST
This set up with a RR and a butt load of other uppers and caliber conversions..... [img]http://www.m96.org/albums/news/aas.sized.jpg[/img]
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