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Posted: 10/1/2014 10:23:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2014 10:23:19 AM EST by Turboguy]
Are things going to be out of hand in a hurry?

I was looking through Drudge while at work and stumbled across this:

http://www.infowars.com/will-cdc-activate-emergency-measures-after-ebola-confirmed-in-us/

I know, consider the source, however it got me thinking. How are Americans going to react if/when we quarantine an area, potentially under penalty of getting shot? Especially a city the size of the Dallas Ft Worth area?

Especially in Texas?

My line of reasoning is a question: How many items, doorknobs, car handles, etc did Mr. Ebola touch between the moment he became infectious and getting quarantined? How many of those items are still infectious?

Or do you think they'd never quarantine a city in America for fear people would start shooting? Ammo for blanket gun ban?
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 10:24:01 AM EST
I pity the organization tasked with quarantining a Texas city.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 10:24:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2014 10:25:04 AM EST by TacticalHeater]
The common flu kills more people per year still... yet no cities are on lock down. I wouldn't worry about it... this isn't a zombie outbreak.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 10:24:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2014 10:25:20 AM EST by CasualObserver]
Originally Posted By Turboguy:
Are things going to be out of hand in a hurry?

I was looking through Drudge while at work and stumbled across this:

http://www.infowars.com/will-cdc-activate-emergency-measures-after-ebola-confirmed-in-us/

I know, consider the source, however it got me thinking. How are Americans going to react if/when we quarantine an area, potentially under penalty of getting shot? Especially a city the size of the Dallas Ft Worth area?

Especially in Texas?

My line of reasoning is a question: How many items, doorknobs, car handles, etc did Mr. Ebola touch between the moment he became infectious and getting quarantined? How many of those items are still infectious?

Or do you think they'd never quarantine a city in America for fear people would start shooting? Ammo for blanket gun ban?
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That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 10:24:56 AM EST
This would be a hell of a weapon for the muslims.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 10:26:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CasualObserver:



That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.
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Originally Posted By CasualObserver:
Originally Posted By Turboguy:
Are things going to be out of hand in a hurry?

I was looking through Drudge while at work and stumbled across this:

http://www.infowars.com/will-cdc-activate-emergency-measures-after-ebola-confirmed-in-us/

I know, consider the source, however it got me thinking. How are Americans going to react if/when we quarantine an area, potentially under penalty of getting shot? Especially a city the size of the Dallas Ft Worth area?

Especially in Texas?

My line of reasoning is a question: How many items, doorknobs, car handles, etc did Mr. Ebola touch between the moment he became infectious and getting quarantined? How many of those items are still infectious?

Or do you think they'd never quarantine a city in America for fear people would start shooting? Ammo for blanket gun ban?



That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.


This.

People should try to educate themselves before they start yet another ebola panic thread in GD.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 10:27:02 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CasualObserver:

That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.
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So....I should put my pants back on?

Link Posted: 10/1/2014 10:33:39 AM EST
there will be no quarantine

Buy the time they figure out it is spreading it will long be outside of Dallas and Texas.
close 1 million people a day travel by air in the US
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 10:34:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
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They'd be taking fire from both sides of their lines, right or wrong.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 10:35:05 AM EST
My brother is in DFW. Good luck getting him to cooperate with anything. Most stubborn bastard on this planet.
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
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At best you could probably shut down the main roads. No way you could keep everyone in.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 10:40:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2014 10:41:21 AM EST by KeithC]
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Originally Posted By TacticalHeater:
The common flu kills more people per year still... yet no cities are on lock down. I wouldn't worry about it... this isn't a zombie outbreak.
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Originally Posted By TacticalHeater:
The common flu kills more people per year still... yet no cities are on lock down. I wouldn't worry about it... this isn't a zombie outbreak.


Originally Posted By CasualObserver:
That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.


True but consider 1. many folks get their education from a sensationalistic 30-second TV spot or a Yahoo headline and will think stuff like "you can get it if you touch the doorknob next;" and 2. we are talking about the administration of "Never let a good crisis go to waste."

I really hadn't considered anything like a quarantine and don't consider it high at all on the list of possibilities. But the Administration has shown ample evidence that it will overreach, ignoring both logic and law, while attempting to whip up panic among the ignorant (even after having the lie exposed, as with F&F) so I can't say the scenario is impossible. It would have more to do with the political reality, not the medical/technical.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 10:47:51 AM EST
I doubt we'll see a quarantine of Dallas, and I doubt it would be a text-book definition of 'orderly' if we did.


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Yet ................................
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 10:48:17 AM EST
FPNI
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Originally Posted By m193:
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Actually, no, it would not. Furthermore, "muslims" are not the problem - it is radicals claiming to act in the name of muslims, just as the radical bible thumpers acting in the name of christianity are a problem here.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 10:50:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 74novaman:


So....I should put my pants back on?

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Originally Posted By CasualObserver:

That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.


So....I should put my pants back on?



No. Air dry.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 10:51:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By TacticalHeater:
The common flu kills more people per year still... yet no cities are on lock down. I wouldn't worry about it... this isn't a zombie outbreak.
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I love when people compare this this thing to the flu.

The flu does not have a kill rate over 50%

Not elderly, young or in poor health? Got the flu? Meh. No big deal
Not elderly, young or in poor health? Got ebola? Well. Is your will up to date? Hope you don't need it. Flip a coin.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 10:52:10 AM EST
Ebola spreads by ignorance. Eradicate ignorance, the disease stops. Of course, judging by many of the comments on GD, eradicating ignorance is a lost cause.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 10:53:14 AM EST
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Originally Posted By The_One:
Ebola spreads by ignorance. Eradicate ignorance, the disease stops. Of course, judging by many of the comments on GD, eradicating ignorance is a lost cause.
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Ebola spreads via the same path as liberalism?

We're fucked.
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Actually, no, it would not. Furthermore, "muslims" are not the problem - it is radicals claiming to act in the name of muslims, just as the radical bible thumpers acting in the name of christianity are a problem here.
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Originally Posted By The_One:
Originally Posted By m193:
This would be a hell of a weapon for the muslims.



Actually, no, it would not. Furthermore, "muslims" are not the problem - it is radicals claiming to act in the name of muslims, just as the radical bible thumpers acting in the name of christianity are a problem here.

I thought the radicals were muslims.
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Ebola spreads via the same path as liberalism?

We're fucked.
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
Originally Posted By The_One:
Ebola spreads by ignorance. Eradicate ignorance, the disease stops. Of course, judging by many of the comments on GD, eradicating ignorance is a lost cause.


Ebola spreads via the same path as liberalism?

We're fucked.

I swapped bodily fluids with some liberal chicks many years ago and I didn't catch the liberalism.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 11:01:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By m193:

I thought the radicals were muslims.
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Originally Posted By m193:
Originally Posted By The_One:
Originally Posted By m193:
This would be a hell of a weapon for the muslims.



Actually, no, it would not. Furthermore, "muslims" are not the problem - it is radicals claiming to act in the name of muslims, just as the radical bible thumpers acting in the name of christianity are a problem here.

I thought the radicals were muslims.



See my comment about ignorance above.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 11:02:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CasualObserver:



That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.
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Originally Posted By CasualObserver:
Originally Posted By Turboguy:
Are things going to be out of hand in a hurry?

I was looking through Drudge while at work and stumbled across this:

http://www.infowars.com/will-cdc-activate-emergency-measures-after-ebola-confirmed-in-us/

I know, consider the source, however it got me thinking. How are Americans going to react if/when we quarantine an area, potentially under penalty of getting shot? Especially a city the size of the Dallas Ft Worth area?

Especially in Texas?

My line of reasoning is a question: How many items, doorknobs, car handles, etc did Mr. Ebola touch between the moment he became infectious and getting quarantined? How many of those items are still infectious?

Or do you think they'd never quarantine a city in America for fear people would start shooting? Ammo for blanket gun ban?



That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.


Okay, then how does it work? How does any of it work? I know that if I've got the flu and sneeze on my hand, then go touch the doorknob, and afterwards you touch it and then bite your fingernails, you have a pretty decent chance of catching the flu too.

Last time I checked, Ebola was spread through body fluids including saliva, sweat, blood, tears, urine, etc. In many times, stuff that is already on a large percentage of people's hands.

It is an accepted fact that Hep B can survive an astonishingly long time even in a dried blood drop. As my area of expertise is in the field of electronics and aircraft with a smattering of law enforcement, I guess I'm not edumacated on how long Ebola can remain active outside the body, but for this strain, it seems like a long time with the amount of people catching it.

Since you happen to have the knowledge, how's about posting it instead of just saying, "That's not how it works?" That way, perhaps I can join you when you're dispelling the next GD panic thread.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 11:03:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By m193:

I swapped bodily fluids with some liberal chicks many years ago and I didn't catch the liberalism.
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
Originally Posted By The_One:
Ebola spreads by ignorance. Eradicate ignorance, the disease stops. Of course, judging by many of the comments on GD, eradicating ignorance is a lost cause.


Ebola spreads via the same path as liberalism?

We're fucked.

I swapped bodily fluids with some liberal chicks many years ago and I didn't catch the liberalism.


Shooting liquid republican in their mouths isn't the same.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 11:03:34 AM EST
Hell they can't even secure the border much less pissed-off Texans.
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See my comment about ignorance above.
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Originally Posted By m193:
Originally Posted By The_One:
Originally Posted By m193:
This would be a hell of a weapon for the muslims.



Actually, no, it would not. Furthermore, "muslims" are not the problem - it is radicals claiming to act in the name of muslims, just as the radical bible thumpers acting in the name of christianity are a problem here.

I thought the radicals were muslims.



See my comment about ignorance above.

you're a got dang sympathizer aren't ya! Quick boys get yer pitchforks!
















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Originally Posted By KeithC:
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I really hadn't considered anything like a quarantine and don't consider it high at all on the list of possibilities. But the Administration has shown ample evidence that it will overreach, ignoring both logic and law, while attempting to whip up panic among the ignorant (even after having the lie exposed, as with F&F) so I can't say the scenario is impossible. It would have more to do with the political reality, not the medical/technical.
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Suppose it did spread, and say Houston was quarantined. Deadline around the city.

And then say a Cat5 hurricane headed for Houston......................

It'd make for a hell of a blockbuster
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 11:19:30 AM EST
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This.

Dallas isn't an island. 3 major interstates and several smaller, yet major highways run through it, plus all the side roads. There's a river that runs across the SW corner from NW to SE, that might contain some, but there's a shitload of area around it and it's not deep or wide enough to stop people from just wading over. Probably with a truckload of used tires, you could make a wet crossing and go across in a jeep in spots.

You'd have better luck trying to contain NE Dallas where the hospital is, inside the LBJ/635 loop, north of I30 and west of I75, but that encompasses TWO major hospitals and a shitload of all kinds of people, lower working class minorities, to some of the uber-rich country club types.

So even if you could muster enough manpower to block it, there's already a shit ton of guns on the street in the hands of folks who don't respect the law to start with. Then there's everybody else.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 11:22:24 AM EST
I'd bet if wouldn't be too hard to find enough people who think dying from ebola is much worse than attacking a roadblock to break out. Is this just another GD "when is it ok to shoot at gubment troops" scenario?
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 11:26:03 AM EST
It is too late for quarantine IMHO.

Incubation period virtually guarantees this out in the wild.

If they do I expect massive panic and the city to burn actually
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 11:27:34 AM EST
You know what would be hilarious? For some comedy guys in Dallas to makeup up like they have Ebola and wander around downtown.
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Originally Posted By m193:

I thought the radicals were muslims.
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Originally Posted By The_One:
Originally Posted By m193:
This would be a hell of a weapon for the muslims.



Actually, no, it would not. Furthermore, "muslims" are not the problem - it is radicals claiming to act in the name of muslims, just as the radical bible thumpers acting in the name of christianity are a problem here.

I thought the radicals were muslims.


They are. Adding "radical" is just a way of trying to not offend those who want to kill us.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 11:28:54 AM EST
Götterdämmerung.............
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 11:34:20 AM EST
Too late for that, but you may want to set something aside in your Fall budget for barricading your residential redoubt

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LOL. They can't even contain small sections of the southern borders in this country. If a major metropolitan city went off the rails there would be nothing or no one to stop it. Not even Costa and his beard .


Reminds me of the line by Bane from the recent Batman movie " Do you feel in charge?"
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My brother is in DFW. Good luck getting him to cooperate with anything. Most stubborn bastard on this planet.
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Sounds like my brother. That sumbitch wont listen to anyone. You could have everyone at the table tell him the exact same story and event that he was at and he would tell it back completely different and then fight to the bitter end that hes right and everyone else is wrong. Boy he pisses me off. That's why I love the 2200 miles between us.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 11:40:32 AM EST
Tag for tagging
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They are. Adding "radical" is just a way of trying to not offend those who want to kill us.
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Originally Posted By m193:
Originally Posted By The_One:
Originally Posted By m193:
This would be a hell of a weapon for the muslims.



Actually, no, it would not. Furthermore, "muslims" are not the problem - it is radicals claiming to act in the name of muslims, just as the radical bible thumpers acting in the name of christianity are a problem here.

I thought the radicals were muslims.


They are. Adding "radical" is just a way of trying to not offend those who want to kill us.


See my comment about ignorance above.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 11:40:59 AM EST
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Will be like the movie 28 Days Later by the time we finally go back in
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See my comment about ignorance above.
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Originally Posted By The_One:
Originally Posted By m193:
This would be a hell of a weapon for the muslims.



Actually, no, it would not. Furthermore, "muslims" are not the problem - it is radicals claiming to act in the name of muslims, just as the radical bible thumpers acting in the name of christianity are a problem here.

I thought the radicals were muslims.



See my comment about ignorance above.

Yes, but how many radical Christians are still living like its the 7th century and cutting peoples heads off that don't agree or convert?
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 11:45:09 AM EST
Infowars is notorious for overblowing things like this. There is usually a kernel or two of truth in their articles, but they bake a pretty big loaf of nonsense around it.
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Yes, but how many radical Christians are still living like its the 7th century and cutting peoples heads off that don't agree or convert?
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Originally Posted By The_One:
Originally Posted By m193:
This would be a hell of a weapon for the muslims.



Actually, no, it would not. Furthermore, "muslims" are not the problem - it is radicals claiming to act in the name of muslims, just as the radical bible thumpers acting in the name of christianity are a problem here.

I thought the radicals were muslims.



See my comment about ignorance above.

Yes, but how many radical Christians are still living like its the 7th century and cutting peoples heads off that don't agree or convert?


That is only because of our legal system. It it weren't for the rule of secular law in this country, the radical bible thumpers would behave exactly like ISIS.
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That is only because of our legal system. It it weren't for the rule of secular law in this country, the radical bible thumpers would behave exactly like ISIS.
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I suppose. Radicals of any religion would be quite fanatical regarding their views. However Christianity preaches peace and love for your fellow man, for example the Golden Rule "Love thy neighbor as thy self". Where Islam preaches death to all non-believers regardless if moderate or not.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 12:04:59 PM EST
Dallas will be fine...



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there will be no quarantine

Buy the time they figure out it is spreading it will long be outside of Dallas and Texas.
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This. I have run this scenario many times on Plague Inc. we (humanity) always lose.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 12:12:59 PM EST
PANIC!!!!!!111!!!one!!!111
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Que the "it's happening" GIF

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I suppose. Radicals of any religion would be quite fanatical regarding their views. However Christianity preaches peace and love for your fellow man, for example the Golden Rule "Love thy neighbor as thy self". Where Islam preaches death to all non-believers regardless if moderate or not.
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That is only because of our legal system. It it weren't for the rule of secular law in this country, the radical bible thumpers would behave exactly like ISIS.

I suppose. Radicals of any religion would be quite fanatical regarding their views. However Christianity preaches peace and love for your fellow man, for example the Golden Rule "Love thy neighbor as thy self". Where Islam preaches death to all non-believers regardless if moderate or not.



You are incorrect, and your comment only contributes to the already overly large body of ignorance.
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