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Posted: 12/26/2012 9:19:44 AM EDT
Will they be able to survive producing 10 round-mags and iPhone cases?
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I am sure they will adapt.
Don't forget that .mil and .leo will still have full access to all the evil AWB items that us civilians will be restricted from owning. Good for the goose and gander and all that. |
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I'm sure Magpul has GSA contracts. They won't be hurting too much.
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It will wreck the entire industry. For an administration that is so fixated on new jobs they sure seem to be in a hurry to get rid of a very large industry.
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I think a lot of companies will be fucked.
I seem to recall the Pentagon banning polymer mags recently, so their biggest product is out the window. I don't know how much they make for/on government contracts, but I suspect that the private market is much more fertile for most companies. It would be a damn shame to see a bunch of companies making products with high demand going under because the government legislated them out of business.
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10 rounders for the serfs... If all the gun magazine companies had any stones they'd only sell 10 rounders to the cops as well. |
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They can just put their plug in all the magazines so they are blocked to 10 rounds
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Some will, some won't. That's capitalism. Evolve or die. Not really capitalism when the gov destroys industries |
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Quoted: Some will, some won't. That's capitalism. Evolve or die. BULLSHIT! That's GOVERNMENT! If it sells then it must be dangerous and therefore it must be regulated to death.
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I was wondering the same thing. What about companies whose main product is AR15's, such as Noveske. They may not employ thousands of people, but there are still people how are not part of the FSA because of them.
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In 1994 about 1/2 the industry went out of business.
I suspect it will be worse this time. I made a thread about this but it wasn't popular. |
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I hear they have "In event of ban, break glass" boxes all over the factory with rubber dogshit molds ready to go.
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Some will, some won't. That's capitalism. Evolve or die. Not really capitalism when the gov destroys industries This. |
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Magpul will be fine. They started during the ban and will continue because they adapt better than most companies. Everyone will want/need 10 round PMAGs, a product they should had brought to market before now. Then more fixed stocks like the entry they have been hinting about. I would imagine they would expand the shotgun line to the Mossberg 500 market. I don't see them having any problems.
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It would destroy the industry.... Daniel Defense had to lay off a bunch of employees after the 08 Obama panic... I'm sure a lot of companies are wary of increasing production too much. Its all going to crash.
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10 rounders for the serfs... If all the gun magazine companies had any stones they'd only sell 10 rounders to the cops as well. |
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If I had a mag business, and I had made a little money... I would not sell to the people who did this... I would close up shop ...
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 10 rounders for the serfs... If all the gun magazine companies had any stones they'd only sell 10 rounders to the cops as well. That is what I say. Only sell things to the .Gov that us citizens can have. |
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Will they be able to survive producing 10 round-mags and iPhone cases? They start making Voodoo dolls of dems that passed the AWB |
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They might not rake in as much as they are doing now, but the need for GOOD ten rounders will be high, and that should keep them going.
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A lot of companies would go under, but that's OK by our glorious Leader. After all, if you go by the current leftist dogma, they're just capitalist dogs that haven't got the social conscience to be decent citizens and deserve whatever they get. In fact, they're probably all racist too, so you should hate them.
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The AR industry will be decimated by government interference. The '94 AWB sunset triggered the boom in this industry. Another AWB will severely stifle it. If another AWB were to happen, thousands would lose their jobs.
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Magpul existed during the last AWB long before they even made their first Pmag.
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It will wreck the entire industry. For an administration that is so fixated on new jobs they sure seem to be in a hurry to get rid of a very large industry. they don't want new jobs, what the hell gave you that idea everything they have done has served to KILL job growth.........business has continued in spite of, not because of the Democrats |
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Magpul will be just fine, some other companies may not fare as well though.
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It will wreck the entire industry. For an administration that is so fixated on new jobs they sure seem to be in a hurry to get rid of a very large industry. It's not bothering them as far as the coal industry is concerned. |
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It will wreck the entire industry. For an administration that is so fixated on new jobs they sure seem to be in a hurry to get rid of a very large industry. they don't want new jobs, what the hell gave you that idea everything they have done has served to KILL job growth.........business has continued in spite of, not because of the Democrats All I'm saying is Obama brings up jobs at every opportunity, and now he's trying to destroy a billion dollar industry. |
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They might not rake in as much as they are doing now, but the need for GOOD ten rounders will be high, and that should keep them going. I would work on desiging convertable and stackable 10-rounders, like lego blocks. |
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Simple. They simply make 10 rounders for .50 Beowulf instead.
It just so happens that if you change out the follower, you now have a mag that will hold 30 rounds of 5.56. |
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Quoted: Quoted: They might not rake in as much as they are doing now, but the need for GOOD ten rounders will be high, and that should keep them going. I would work on desiging convertable and stackable 10-rounders, like lego blocks. For what? Use in Remington 700s? |
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They can just put their plug in all the magazines so they are blocked to 10 rounds And pin the telescopic stocks like before. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It will wreck the entire industry. For an administration that is so fixated on new jobs they sure seem to be in a hurry to get rid of a very large industry. they don't want new jobs, what the hell gave you that idea everything they have done has served to KILL job growth.........business has continued in spite of, not because of the Democrats All I'm saying is Obama brings up jobs at every opportunity, and now he's trying to destroy a billion dollar industry. He's destroyed millions of other jobs in other areas via EPA and other government interference. Even if it would put 10% of the work force out of work, he would do it in a heartbeat, all to help achieve their end goal. He's not about improving the national business front, he's all about growing control. And you can't control the populace as long as millions own guns. |
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Or have "limited runs" that are not LE marked, and then market them as "preban" mags. I'm sure a good bit of that went on during the last ban......
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Here's a great idea. Make AIRSOFT.
I foresee this website changing name to AIRSOFT15.COM |
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Quoted: Quoted: They can just put their plug in all the magazines so they are blocked to 10 rounds And pin the telescopic stocks like before. What telescopic stocks, there aren't going to be AR15s anymore. They aren't going to enact the old law again. They are going to swing for the fence on making magazine fed semi auto rifles illegal, not "let's put a fixed stock on and cut off the bayo lug" Maybe they can make some 7 round plastic magazines for those Ruger "scout" rifles.
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It will wreck the entire industry. For an administration that is so fixated on new jobs they sure seem to be in a hurry to get rid of a very large industry. they don't want new jobs, what the hell gave you that idea everything they have done has served to KILL job growth.........business has continued in spite of, not because of the Democrats All I'm saying is Obama brings up jobs at every opportunity, and now he's trying to destroy a billion dollar industry. He's destroyed millions of other jobs in other areas via EPA and other government interference. Even if it would put 10% of the work force out of work, he would do it in a heartbeat, all to help achieve their end goal. He's not about improving the national business front, he's all about growing control. And you can't control the populace as long as millions own guns. You're preaching to the choir, you don't have to convince me, I was just making a statement |
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They might not rake in as much as they are doing now, but the need for GOOD ten rounders will be high, and that should keep them going. I would work on desiging convertable and stackable 10-rounders, like lego blocks. For what? Use in Remington 700s? For all the illegal guns we'll still have. http://reason.com/archives/2012/12/22/gun-restrictions-have-always-bred-defian/2 In a white paper on the results of gun control efforts around the world, Gun Control and the Reduction of the Number of Arms, Franz Csaszar, a professor of criminology at the University of Vienna, Austria, wrote, “non-compliance with harsher gun laws is a common event.”
Dr. Csaszar estimates compliance with Australia’s 1996 ban on self-loading rifles and pump-action shotguns at 20 percent. And even that underwhelming estimate gives the authorities the benefit of the doubt. Three years after Australia’s controversial ban was implemented, when 643,000 weapons had been surrendered, Inspector John McCoomb, the head of the state of Queensland’s Weapons Licensing Branch, told The Sunday Mail, "About 800,000 (semi-automatic and automatic) SKK and SKS weapons came in from China back in the 1980s as part of a trade deal between the Australian and Chinese governments. And it was estimated that there were 1.2 million semi-automatic Ruger 10/22s in the country. That's about 2 million firearms of just two types in the country." |
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They can just put their plug in all the magazines so they are blocked to 10 rounds And pin the telescopic stocks like before. What telescopic stocks, there aren't going to be AR15s anymore. They aren't going to enact the old law again. They are going to swing for the fence on making magazine fed semi auto rifles illegal, not "let's put a fixed stock on and cut off the bayo lug" Maybe they can make some 7 round plastic magazines for those Ruger "scout" rifles. Aimless is right. With the stroke of a pen, Obama is going to make all of our ARs melt into pixie dust and foot powder. Some poor sap is going to be at the shooting range at the exact moment Obama signs the AWB and he's going to get AR glitter all over his face when his rifle disintegrates. Poor America. |
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I hope that every industry just designs circles around any retarded ban.
I sure as hell aint selling any guns to the gov |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They might not rake in as much as they are doing now, but the need for GOOD ten rounders will be high, and that should keep them going. I would work on desiging convertable and stackable 10-rounders, like lego blocks. For what? Use in Remington 700s? No way that ever passes. |
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Thing is, if I was firmly rooted in an industry that was as susceptible to legislation as EBR accessories, I'da kept a lot more funds fluid than I might if I sold #2 pencils or something. I'da grown the business slower, and kept a "fuck it, I'm foing" fund ready. I'd never dangle my buns out so that a ban at the wrong time would hurt me.
Maybe that'd prevent me from running such a company to begin with. I don't know. I fix computers. |
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Simple. They simply make 10 rounders for .50 Beowulf instead. It just so happens that if you change out the follower, you now have a mag that will hold 30 rounds of 5.56. PURE GENIUS!! |
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Quoted: Quoted: 10 rounders for the serfs... If all the gun magazine companies had any stones they'd only sell 10 rounders to the cops as well. yup. "Sorry, we dont manufacture those any more." |
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I imagine they probably have all sorts of Plan D designs they can make to keep the molds churning out parts. Maybe a game-changing Rem700 detachable magazine aluminum bedded block, folding plastic stock with add on rail sections up front. M14 EBR plastic stock. That's what I would be doing.
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