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Posted: 10/6/2014 7:42:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/6/2014 7:42:25 AM EST by metalsaber]
Then why don't we get state laws passed to allow Class 3 items? If enough states did it, it would force the hand of the Federal Government just like whats starting with Pot it starting to do.
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They don't want to
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there has to be some states that would allow SBRs or Suppressors.
Link Posted: 10/6/2014 7:45:25 AM EST
Pot is cool and hip

Guns aren't
Link Posted: 10/6/2014 7:50:09 AM EST
A state voting to legalize MJ is not the same as overriding the Feds.
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Pot makes them money. Guns don't. It is always about the $$$$$.
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That's not what is happening.

The Feds and the states have concurrent jurisdiction over certain crimes. States may choose to legalize pot but that doesn't mean you couldn't be charged under federal law for possession.
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
there has to be some states that would allow SBRs or Suppressors.
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By staraero:
They don't want to
there has to be some states that would allow SBRs or Suppressors.


Some states do allow suppressors apart of hunting applications so its already in motion if you think about it
Link Posted: 10/6/2014 7:53:51 AM EST
Those laws don't override the federal givernment. They decriminalize it at the state level.
Link Posted: 10/6/2014 7:55:16 AM EST
If the general public overcame its generic fear that "silencers and sawed-off shotguns are scary," and the law were flouted in large enough numbers, then eventually it would happen, just like the situation with marijuana. Marijuana prohibition has been a joke for a long time and national legalization now seems inevitable, but even so the process is taking time and there are people in power who still buy into the reefer madness memes of yesterday. Societal attitudes take a long time to change, even when the need for change is indisputable.
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How are those State laws NOT overriding the Federal Government?

They are growing and selling cannabis.

It would be like a State ignoring the Volstead Act, and allowing people to produce and sell alcohol.
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How are those State laws NOT overriding the Federal Government?

They are growing and selling cannabis.

It would be like a State ignoring the Volstead Act, and allowing people to produce and sell alcohol.
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Originally Posted By Tomtbo:
Originally Posted By GreyHat:
Those laws don't override the federal givernment. They decriminalize it at the state level.




How are those State laws NOT overriding the Federal Government?

They are growing and selling cannabis.

It would be like a State ignoring the Volstead Act, and allowing people to produce and sell alcohol.

exactly
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Wasn't it Kentucky or something, that has, or is pushing for, the residents to be able to own Class 3 stuff without the usual fed requirements, as long as it was manufactured in state?
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Hopefully the states that are allowing suppressor use while hunting opens some other doors.

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Wasn't it Kentucky or something, that has, or is pushing for, the residents to be able to own Class 3 stuff without the usual fed requirements, as long as it was manufactured in state?
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News to me
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Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Wasn't it Kentucky or something, that has, or is pushing for, the residents to be able to own Class 3 stuff without the usual fed requirements, as long as it was manufactured in state?

News to me


I might have the state wrong, but I swear I remember reading about it here.

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Originally Posted By metalsaber:

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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By Tomtbo:
Originally Posted By GreyHat:
Those laws don't override the federal givernment. They decriminalize it at the state level.




How are those State laws NOT overriding the Federal Government?

They are growing and selling cannabis.

It would be like a State ignoring the Volstead Act, and allowing people to produce and sell alcohol.

exactly

The DEA has those states on ignore. There is nothing stopping the feds from changing their minds and enforcing fed law.
Link Posted: 10/6/2014 8:12:25 AM EST
These states do their people no services.

They fail to warn any younger populations that the Feds did not condone this, and they WILL be prohibited from armed forces service and other restrictions.

Of course, the Feds can step in, weigh in, and clarify, but looks who's in charge....
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Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Wasn't it Kentucky or something, that has, or is pushing for, the residents to be able to own Class 3 stuff without the usual fed requirements, as long as it was manufactured in state?
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I vaguely remember something like that but wasn't sure if it was Kentucky or Alabama.
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
there has to be some states that would allow SBRs or Suppressors.
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By staraero:
They don't want to
there has to be some states that would allow SBRs or Suppressors.


Sbr's and suppressors are already legal in most states. Do you expect a state to pass a law excluding its residents from paying taxes?
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Originally Posted By slama682:

The DEA has those states on ignore. There is nothing stopping the feds from changing their minds and enforcing fed law.
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Originally Posted By slama682:
Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By Tomtbo:
How are those State laws NOT overriding the Federal Government?

They are growing and selling cannabis.

It would be like a State ignoring the Volstead Act, and allowing people to produce and sell alcohol.

exactly

The DEA has those states on ignore. There is nothing stopping the feds from changing their minds and enforcing fed law.



This. The feds don't care enough about pot to enforce The Law. They do care, however, about suppressors and belt-feds.
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Originally Posted By slama682:

The DEA has those states on ignore. There is nothing stopping the feds from changing their minds and enforcing fed law.
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Originally Posted By slama682:
Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By Tomtbo:
Originally Posted By GreyHat:
Those laws don't override the federal givernment. They decriminalize it at the state level.




How are those State laws NOT overriding the Federal Government?

They are growing and selling cannabis.

It would be like a State ignoring the Volstead Act, and allowing people to produce and sell alcohol.

exactly

The DEA has those states on ignore. There is nothing stopping the feds from changing their minds and enforcing fed law.

But the more states that legalize it, it will render the feds impotent and force a reversal. So again, why not do this with Class 3 and render the ATF impotent?
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Originally Posted By Tomtbo:


How are those State laws NOT overriding the Federal Government? - 2 members here have already explained this to you.....its still against Federal Law.
They are growing and selling cannabis. - Legal under state law, illegal under federal law.

It would be like a State ignoring the Volstead Act, and allowing people to produce and sell alcohol.
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Originally Posted By Tomtbo:
Originally Posted By GreyHat:
Those laws don't override the federal givernment. They decriminalize it at the state level.


How are those State laws NOT overriding the Federal Government? - 2 members here have already explained this to you.....its still against Federal Law.
They are growing and selling cannabis. - Legal under state law, illegal under federal law.

It would be like a State ignoring the Volstead Act, and allowing people to produce and sell alcohol.

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Originally Posted By metalsaber:

I vaguely remember something like that but wasn't sure if it was Kentucky or Alabama.
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Wasn't it Kentucky or something, that has, or is pushing for, the residents to be able to own Class 3 stuff without the usual fed requirements, as long as it was manufactured in state?

I vaguely remember something like that but wasn't sure if it was Kentucky or Alabama.


Yeah, Alabama sounds familiar, too. Maybe that was it.

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Originally Posted By AllserviceBilliards:


Sbr's and suppressors are already legal in most states. Do you expect a state to pass a law excluding its residents from paying taxes?
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Originally Posted By AllserviceBilliards:
Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By staraero:
They don't want to
there has to be some states that would allow SBRs or Suppressors.


Sbr's and suppressors are already legal in most states. Do you expect a state to pass a law excluding its residents from paying taxes?

Legal as in go through the proper federal procedures to acquire them. Pot in Colorado doesn't have users go through the Feds to get Pot.
So no your argument isn't the same.
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Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:


Yeah, Alabama sounds familiar, too. Maybe that was it.

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Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Wasn't it Kentucky or something, that has, or is pushing for, the residents to be able to own Class 3 stuff without the usual fed requirements, as long as it was manufactured in state?

I vaguely remember something like that but wasn't sure if it was Kentucky or Alabama.


Yeah, Alabama sounds familiar, too. Maybe that was it.


I believe it was Montana.

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Originally Posted By metalsaber:

I vaguely remember something like that but wasn't sure if it was Kentucky or Alabama.
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Wasn't it Kentucky or something, that has, or is pushing for, the residents to be able to own Class 3 stuff without the usual fed requirements, as long as it was manufactured in state?

I vaguely remember something like that but wasn't sure if it was Kentucky or Alabama.

Utah passed this. Has yet to exercise it or offer me one for sale.
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I believe it was Montana.

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Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Wasn't it Kentucky or something, that has, or is pushing for, the residents to be able to own Class 3 stuff without the usual fed requirements, as long as it was manufactured in state?

I vaguely remember something like that but wasn't sure if it was Kentucky or Alabama.


Yeah, Alabama sounds familiar, too. Maybe that was it.


I believe it was Montana.

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Well shit, I have no idea now.

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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By Tomtbo:
Originally Posted By GreyHat:
Those laws don't override the federal givernment. They decriminalize it at the state level.




How are those State laws NOT overriding the Federal Government?

They are growing and selling cannabis.

It would be like a State ignoring the Volstead Act, and allowing people to produce and sell alcohol.

exactly


Cuz it's more of case of the .fed deciding not to do something about it. The sates haven't done an over ride the .fed just allows them to do it/just doesn't care. If the fed wanted to they could shut it down anytime. If the states tried that shit with class 3 I don't think the fed would be so laxed about it.
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:

But the more states that legalize it, it will render the feds impotent and force a reversal. So again, why not do this with Class 3 and render the ATF impotent?
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By slama682:
Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By Tomtbo:
Originally Posted By GreyHat:
Those laws don't override the federal givernment. They decriminalize it at the state level.




How are those State laws NOT overriding the Federal Government?

They are growing and selling cannabis.

It would be like a State ignoring the Volstead Act, and allowing people to produce and sell alcohol.

exactly

The DEA has those states on ignore. There is nothing stopping the feds from changing their minds and enforcing fed law.

But the more states that legalize it, it will render the feds impotent and force a reversal. So again, why not do this with Class 3 and render the ATF impotent?

The number of people buying the devil weed is likely a lot higher than those who want a belt fed. Simple lack of support.
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:

But the more states that legalize it, it will render the feds impotent and force a reversal. So again, why not do this with Class 3 and render the ATF impotent?
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By slama682:
Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By Tomtbo:
Originally Posted By GreyHat:
Those laws don't override the federal givernment. They decriminalize it at the state level.




How are those State laws NOT overriding the Federal Government?

They are growing and selling cannabis.

It would be like a State ignoring the Volstead Act, and allowing people to produce and sell alcohol.

exactly

The DEA has those states on ignore. There is nothing stopping the feds from changing their minds and enforcing fed law.

But the more states that legalize it, it will render the feds impotent and force a reversal. So again, why not do this with Class 3 and render the ATF impotent?


Quick civics lesson....the states can't reverse the feds....the feds reverse the states. If the feds decided to enforce federal drug laws in states like CO, there is really nothing stopping them.
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Yeah, Alabama sounds familiar, too. Maybe that was it.

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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Wasn't it Kentucky or something, that has, or is pushing for, the residents to be able to own Class 3 stuff without the usual fed requirements, as long as it was manufactured in state?

I vaguely remember something like that but wasn't sure if it was Kentucky or Alabama.


Yeah, Alabama sounds familiar, too. Maybe that was it.


You guys are probably referring the the Firearms Freedom Acts passed by a number of states. All those really do, though I haven't read all of them, is state that items manufactured in-state and don't leave the state aren't subject to federal laws. That, however, doesn't change that most states, from my understanding, have explicit verbiage in their statutes that say NFA items are illegal unless ok'd by the feds. What that seems to do, in effect, is make these Firearms Freedom Acts nothing but feel-good legislation.

Firearms Freedom Acts

I'm hoping, with the outing of the ATF being a sham of an agency with regards to NFA items with the whole trust thing going on, that more states will be looking towards state legalization of NFA items. That would actually do something in conjunction with these acts.
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Double tap
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By Tomtbo:
Originally Posted By GreyHat:
Those laws don't override the federal givernment. They decriminalize it at the state level.




How are those State laws NOT overriding the Federal Government?

They are growing and selling cannabis.

It would be like a State ignoring the Volstead Act, and allowing people to produce and sell alcohol.

exactly


Obama administration picks and chooses the laws they enforce. Nothing new with these clowns.
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Just for shits and giggles, I would love to see the feds break it off in coloradans asses over pot......just to see libs and potheads scream states rights!!!!!


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Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:

You guys are probably referring the the Firearms Freedom Acts passed by a number of states. All those really do, though I haven't read all of them, is state that items manufactured in-state and don't leave the state aren't subject to federal laws. That, however, doesn't change that most states, from my understanding, have explicit verbiage in their statutes that say NFA items are illegal unless ok'd by the feds. What that seems to do, in effect, is make these Firearms Freedom Acts nothing but feel-good legislation.

Firearms Freedom Acts

I'm hoping, with the outing of the ATF being a sham of an agency with regards to NFA items with the whole trust thing going on, that more states will be looking towards state legalization of NFA items. That would actually do something in conjunction with these acts.
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Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Wasn't it Kentucky or something, that has, or is pushing for, the residents to be able to own Class 3 stuff without the usual fed requirements, as long as it was manufactured in state?

I vaguely remember something like that but wasn't sure if it was Kentucky or Alabama.


Yeah, Alabama sounds familiar, too. Maybe that was it.


You guys are probably referring the the Firearms Freedom Acts passed by a number of states. All those really do, though I haven't read all of them, is state that items manufactured in-state and don't leave the state aren't subject to federal laws. That, however, doesn't change that most states, from my understanding, have explicit verbiage in their statutes that say NFA items are illegal unless ok'd by the feds. What that seems to do, in effect, is make these Firearms Freedom Acts nothing but feel-good legislation.

Firearms Freedom Acts

I'm hoping, with the outing of the ATF being a sham of an agency with regards to NFA items with the whole trust thing going on, that more states will be looking towards state legalization of NFA items. That would actually do something in conjunction with these acts.

which is another reason it needs to go away.
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It has been pushed in several states such as Montana. The idea is to have everything made in-state to avoid that pesky Commerce Clause and therefore the federal government. Federal government could obviously still charge your for making a can without the proper NFA paperwork/tax. Remember members here saying would State Police from state X arrest the ATF for trying to enforce the law given that circumstance, etc....?

That said even the states that have proposed it and or passed it allowed suppressors and SBRs but no MGs.
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Technically Kansas did this with SB102 The Second Amendment Protection Act. I don't believe it has been tested in court yet.
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It has been pushed in several states such as Montana. The idea is to have everything made in-state to avoid that pesky Commerce Clause and therefore the federal government. Federal government could obviously still charge your for making a can without the proper NFA paperwork/tax. Remember members here saying would State Police from state X arrest the ATF for trying to enforce the law given that circumstance, etc....?

That said even the states that have proposed it and or passed it allowed suppressors and SBRs but no MGs.
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but it would be a start.
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Originally Posted By wgjhsafT:
It has been pushed in several states such as Montana. The idea is to have everything made in-state to avoid that pesky Commerce Clause and therefore the federal government. Federal government could obviously still charge your for making a can without the proper NFA paperwork/tax. Remember members here saying would State Police from state X arrest the ATF for trying to enforce the law given that circumstance, etc....?

That said even the states that have proposed it and or passed it allowed suppressors and SBRs but no MGs.
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One step at a time.

Suppressors, then SBR/SBS, then MGs.

Actually I'm hopeful on the suppressor front as they are
going more and more "main stream". Hell, some states allow
hunting with them.

I mean really. A suppressor is a harmless item in and of it self.
They should be at MOST a 4473/NICS item. Hell in my state (KY)
my CCW by passes a NICS check for firearms.


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You guys are probably referring the the Firearms Freedom Acts passed by a number of states. All those really do, though I haven't read all of them, is state that items manufactured in-state and don't leave the state aren't subject to federal laws. That, however, doesn't change that most states, from my understanding, have explicit verbiage in their statutes that say NFA items are illegal unless ok'd by the feds. What that seems to do, in effect, is make these Firearms Freedom Acts nothing but feel-good legislation.

Firearms Freedom Acts

I'm hoping, with the outing of the ATF being a sham of an agency with regards to NFA items with the whole trust thing going on, that more states will be looking towards state legalization of NFA items. That would actually do something in conjunction with these acts.
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Wasn't it Kentucky or something, that has, or is pushing for, the residents to be able to own Class 3 stuff without the usual fed requirements, as long as it was manufactured in state?

I vaguely remember something like that but wasn't sure if it was Kentucky or Alabama.


Yeah, Alabama sounds familiar, too. Maybe that was it.


You guys are probably referring the the Firearms Freedom Acts passed by a number of states. All those really do, though I haven't read all of them, is state that items manufactured in-state and don't leave the state aren't subject to federal laws. That, however, doesn't change that most states, from my understanding, have explicit verbiage in their statutes that say NFA items are illegal unless ok'd by the feds. What that seems to do, in effect, is make these Firearms Freedom Acts nothing but feel-good legislation.

Firearms Freedom Acts

I'm hoping, with the outing of the ATF being a sham of an agency with regards to NFA items with the whole trust thing going on, that more states will be looking towards state legalization of NFA items. That would actually do something in conjunction with these acts.

Prevailing supreme Court decisions would void those specific state laws.
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Then why don't we get state laws passed to allow Class 3 items? If enough states did it, it would force the hand of the Federal Government just like whats starting with Pot it starting to do.
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Or the feds could declare everyone living in those states to be an "... unlawful user of or addicted to .... marijuana" and declare them all to be prohibited persons.

ATF has already said possession of a medical marijuana ID card, and note they did not day use of marijuana for medical purposes, but possession of the card, means you are an "... unlawful user of or addicted to .... marijuana" and are therefore unable to possess firearms, forever.
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Prevailing supreme Court decisions would void those specific state laws.
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Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Wasn't it Kentucky or something, that has, or is pushing for, the residents to be able to own Class 3 stuff without the usual fed requirements, as long as it was manufactured in state?

I vaguely remember something like that but wasn't sure if it was Kentucky or Alabama.


Yeah, Alabama sounds familiar, too. Maybe that was it.


You guys are probably referring the the Firearms Freedom Acts passed by a number of states. All those really do, though I haven't read all of them, is state that items manufactured in-state and don't leave the state aren't subject to federal laws. That, however, doesn't change that most states, from my understanding, have explicit verbiage in their statutes that say NFA items are illegal unless ok'd by the feds. What that seems to do, in effect, is make these Firearms Freedom Acts nothing but feel-good legislation.

Firearms Freedom Acts

I'm hoping, with the outing of the ATF being a sham of an agency with regards to NFA items with the whole trust thing going on, that more states will be looking towards state legalization of NFA items. That would actually do something in conjunction with these acts.

Prevailing supreme Court decisions would void those specific state laws.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzales_v._Raich
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We all know Fed > State, the point is to nullify and push the fed to where it needs to go, which is what's happening with the whole medical marijuana deal.
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Uh marijuana is still illegal federally. Doesn't matter if the state says its legal or not.
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Uh marijuana is still illegal federally. Doesn't matter if the state says its legal or not.
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But if enough states legalize it, you aren't going to get the federal govt raiding a significant number of states. It just can't and won't.
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NY pretty much overrides the federal constitution anyway.

so as HRC said...."what difference does it make?"
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But if enough states legalize it, you aren't going to get the federal govt raiding a significant number of states. It just can't and won't.
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Originally Posted By texassooner:
Uh marijuana is still illegal federally. Doesn't matter if the state says its legal or not.

But if enough states legalize it, you aren't going to get the federal govt raiding a significant number of states. It just can't and won't.


True.

But there's nothing like being that one guy the feds decided needed to be pinched. Youtube, social media, etc. they're a helluva drug.
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:

I vaguely remember something like that but wasn't sure if it was Kentucky or Alabama.
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Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Wasn't it Kentucky or something, that has, or is pushing for, the residents to be able to own Class 3 stuff without the usual fed requirements, as long as it was manufactured in state?

I vaguely remember something like that but wasn't sure if it was Kentucky or Alabama.


Alaska. We passed it a couple years ago its the Alaska firearms freedom act or something. IT says anything made in state somehow isn't subject to federal laws. As far as I know there hasn't been anyone to test those waters yet
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