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Posted: 8/16/2005 10:24:55 PM EDT
Much ado was made about the term "white pride" in another thread
if la raza gets the "stamp of approval", then how about la raza blanca
there is no "pride" in this one to alarm the players of the race card

La raza (Spanish: "The race") or "La raza mexicana" is a term which many Mexicans commonly use to denote mestizo ancestry. In the U.S. Census, many Mexican-Americans or Chicanos described themselves as "some other race" to express mestizo pride. Being "la raza" or mestizo does not necessarily mean that the person is of mixed white and Amerindian ancestry, but it is usually used as an indication of ethnical or cultural pride.
The terms "la raza cosmica" (the universal race) and "la raza de bronce" (the bronze race) are also sometimes used alternatively.

they even have a newspaper www.laraza.com/
"Bilingual magazine offering art, news, movie listings, and educational resources"

I didn't notice the bilingual portion...................
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:27:13 PM EDT
Viva La Raza Blanca!
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:31:40 PM EDT
thats a good idea
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:33:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:
Viva La Raza Blanca!



Heh
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:36:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:
Viva La Raza Blanca!



Yes long live the race of white women.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:37:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 10:37:57 PM EDT by FortyFiveAutomatic]
I don't find it offensive. What I find offensive is that white people cannot have White Entertainment Television or organizations catered primarily to Caucasians without the ACLU and the NAACP throwing a shit-fit over it. But white people often celebrate their European descent. There's Oktoberfest, St. Patrick's Day, and other [heavily alcohol-inspired] holidays.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:37:49 PM EDT
I get in trouble if I say anything
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:42:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By OFFascist:

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:
Viva La Raza Blanca!



Yes long live the race of white women.



Thats my favorite part of the race

(are you saying it should be blanco?)
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:42:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
I get in trouble if I say anything




As you should, sir, as you should.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:45:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic:
I don't find it offensive. What I find offensive is that white people cannot have White Entertainment Television or organizations catered primarily to Caucasians without the ACLU and the NAACP throwing a shit-fit over it.



That was the inspiration for this, I have been working in a neighborhood with at least 10,000 illegals, in Houston........
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:52:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 22bad:
(are you saying it should be blanco?)



Well

a = feminine

o = masculine

Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:54:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 11:04:38 PM EDT by Lumpy196]

Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
I get in trouble if I say anything




As you should, sir, as you should.




I'll say it. It shouldn't be about pride in your race. It should be about pride in your country. If you move here legally, great, dive right in and live the American Dream to the best of your ability. But don't come here, feed off those that make it work, refuse to learn the language, refuse to be part of making this country better, then intentionally segregate yourself and bitch about "White America" keeping you down.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:59:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 11:01:31 PM EDT by 22bad]

Originally Posted By OFFascist:

Originally Posted By 22bad:
(are you saying it should be blanco?)



Well

a = feminine

o = masculine



Yeah, I took a few years of spanish too
LA razA, although a group of people(males AND females) would be masculine "groupo"
are you a native speaker, or will a native spanish speaker please comment?
(I've got some signs to make up, don't want to confuse anyone)
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:01:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
I get in trouble if I say anything




As you should, sir, as you should.




I'll say it. It shouldn't be about pride in your race. It should be about pride in your country. If you move here legally, great, dive right in and live the American Dream to the best of your ability. But don't come here, feed off those that make it work, refuse to learn the language, refuse to part of making this country better, then intentionally segregate yourself and bitch about "White America" keeping you down.



Well said, sir.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:03:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 22bad:

Originally Posted By OFFascist:

Originally Posted By 22bad:
(are you saying it should be blanco?)



Well

a = feminine

o = masculine



Yeah, I took a few years of spanish too
LA razA, although a group of people(males AND females) would be masculine "groupo"
are you a native speaker, or will a native spanish speaker please comment?
(I've got some signs to make up, don't want to confuse anyone)



Yeah I'll take this one.

La Raza Blanca is correct. B/C The term "Raza" is feminine, then the adjective that follows must agree with this. La Raza Blanco is incorrect, as is El Raza Blanco, or anything else.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:06:43 PM EDT
Ich bin eine blanco!

(more correctly)

Ich bin eine weisse!
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:06:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
I get in trouble if I say anything




As you should, sir, as you should.




I'll say it. It shouldn't be about pride in your race. It should be about pride in your country. If you move here legally, great, dive right in and live the American Dream to the best of your ability. But don't come here, feed off those that make it work, refuse to learn the language, refuse to part of making this country better, then intentionally segregate yourself and bitch about "White America" keeping you down.



I have much pride in my Hispanic heritage, even though I am damn proud to be an American. That's not wrong, my friend. Plenty of White Americans are proud to be Irish, German, English, whatever. Just because your American doesn't mean you can't have pride in your descent.

That said, I agree with the latter part of your statement.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:07:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic:

Originally Posted By 22bad:

Originally Posted By OFFascist:

Originally Posted By 22bad:
(are you saying it should be blanco?)



Well

a = feminine

o = masculine



Yeah, I took a few years of spanish too
LA razA, although a group of people(males AND females) would be masculine "groupo"
are you a native speaker, or will a native spanish speaker please comment?
(I've got some signs to make up, don't want to confuse anyone)



Yeah I'll take this one.

La Raza Blanca is correct. B/C The term "Raza" is feminine, then the adjective that follows must agree with this. La Raza Blanco is incorrect, as is El Raza Blanco, or anything else.



Senora Solis would be soooo proud of me
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:07:46 PM EDT
As long as being an American is #1, knock yourself out.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:09:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
As long as being an American is #1, knock yourself out.



Hey, in the words of Carlos Mencia:

"If there comes a time when the U.S. and Mexico go to war, you don't fuckin send me back 'where I came from', you give me an M16 and you give me orders!"
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:10:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
As long as being an American is #1, knock yourself out.



Hey, in the words of Carlos Mencia:

"If there comes a time when the U.S. and Mexico go to war, you don't fuckin send me back 'where I came from', you give me an M16 and you give me orders!"




Then I support you and your sentiments 100% brother.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 12:38:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/17/2005 12:38:44 AM EDT by 22bad]
La Raza Blanca
what kind of flag? white? don't tread on me? state flags?
maybe a smaller flag flying below Old Glory
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 12:55:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 22bad:
La Raza Blanca
what kind of flag? white? don't tread on me? state flags?
maybe a smaller flag flying below Old Glory



that would be a bit much.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 12:57:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By glockguy40:

Originally Posted By 22bad:
La Raza Blanca
what kind of flag? white? don't tread on me? state flags?
maybe a smaller flag flying below Old Glory



that would be a bit much.



I see la raza on bumper stickers, signs and t-shirts.........
(and the mexican flag is usually somewhere close by)
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 1:18:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 22bad:

Originally Posted By glockguy40:

Originally Posted By 22bad:
La Raza Blanca
what kind of flag? white? don't tread on me? state flags?
maybe a smaller flag flying below Old Glory



that would be a bit much.



I see la raza on bumper stickers, signs and t-shirts.........
(and the mexican flag is usually somewhere close by)



I have to agree.

You MIGHT want to stay away from a white flag...obvious reasons

Maybe something with historical value...
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 1:32:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:

Originally Posted By 22bad:

Originally Posted By glockguy40:

Originally Posted By 22bad:
La Raza Blanca
what kind of flag? white? don't tread on me? state flags?
maybe a smaller flag flying below Old Glory



that would be a bit much.



I see la raza on bumper stickers, signs and t-shirts.........
(and the mexican flag is usually somewhere close by)



I have to agree.

You MIGHT want to stay away from a white flag...obvious reasons

Maybe something with historical value...



Like the 45th Infantry Division's patch, circa 1930?
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:00:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/17/2005 8:01:20 PM EDT by 22bad]

Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:

Originally Posted By 22bad:

Originally Posted By glockguy40:

Originally Posted By 22bad:
La Raza Blanca
what kind of flag? white? don't tread on me? state flags?
maybe a smaller flag flying below Old Glory


that would be a bit much.


I see la raza on bumper stickers, signs and t-shirts.........
(and the mexican flag is usually somewhere close by)


I have to agree.
You MIGHT want to stay away from a white flag...obvious reasons
Maybe something with historical value...
If the obvious reason is "surrender" connotations, that was part of the joke
have not spent much time thinking about any flags that would be appropriate, yet
Just came up with the idea yesterday


Like the 45th Infantry Division's patch, circa 1930?
A little research showed that the 45ID used the swastika
If that is what you were talking about, I think you know where you can stuff it



Looks like a player of the race card has decided to interject some stupidity into the conversation
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:13:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 22bad:

Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:

Originally Posted By 22bad:

Originally Posted By glockguy40:

Originally Posted By 22bad:
La Raza Blanca
what kind of flag? white? don't tread on me? state flags?
maybe a smaller flag flying below Old Glory


that would be a bit much.


I see la raza on bumper stickers, signs and t-shirts.........
(and the mexican flag is usually somewhere close by)


I have to agree.
You MIGHT want to stay away from a white flag...obvious reasons
Maybe something with historical value...
If the obvious reason is "surrender" connotations, that was part of the joke
have not spent much time thinking about any flags that would be appropriate, yet
Just came up with the idea yesterday


Like the 45th Infantry Division's patch, circa 1930?
A little research showed that the 45ID used the swastika
If that is what you were talking about, I think you know where you can stuff it



Looks like a player of the race card has decided to interject some stupidity into the conversation



No, I didn't. That symbol had been around for HUNDREDS of years before some abused Austrian microphallus coopted it for his own purposes.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:23:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/17/2005 8:23:55 PM EDT by 22bad]
You have GOT to be kidding, this idea came out of the "white pride" thread
where EVERYONE said that particular term had been forever co-opted by racists
and now you want to tie a swastika with the new term "La Raza Blanca"?
if possible, please explain how\why that is not a ridiculous suggestion
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:29:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 22bad:

I have to agree.
You MIGHT want to stay away from a white flag...obvious reasons
Maybe something with historical value...
If the obvious reason is "surrender" connotations, that was part of the joke
have not spent much time thinking about any flags that would be appropriate, yet
Just came up with the idea yesterday




I was thinking about "surrender."

Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:30:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 22bad:
You have GOT to be kidding, this idea came out of the "white pride" thread
where EVERYONE said that particular term had been forever co-opted by racists
and now you want to tie a swastika with the new term "La Raza Blanca"?
if possible, please explain how\why that is not a ridiculous suggestion




The 45th ID's unit crest was a symbol used by the Native Americans living in the Southwest US before the enslavement and corruption of this culture by Spainards who totally decimated the culture. Now the Spanish-speaking mestizos think they are the original inhabitants of the land. Bull. Go to any of the reservations in northern New Mexico and see who the ORIGINAL OCCUPANTS of this land are. Compare genetics. THESE are the Native Americans.

And THAT is where I am coming from.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:32:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:

Originally Posted By 22bad:

I have to agree.
You MIGHT want to stay away from a white flag...obvious reasons
Maybe something with historical value...
If the obvious reason is "surrender" connotations, that was part of the joke
have not spent much time thinking about any flags that would be appropriate, yet
Just came up with the idea yesterday



I was thinking about "surrender."




Again, I have not spent more than about 10 seconds considering a flag(yet)
but, that was the joke, its white(blanca)but, if you are flying it you are NOT surrendering
(in fact, you are, most likely, about to be fighting)
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:37:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Originally Posted By 22bad:
You have GOT to be kidding, this idea came out of the "white pride" thread
where EVERYONE said that particular term had been forever co-opted by racists
and now you want to tie a swastika with the new term "La Raza Blanca"?
if possible, please explain how\why that is not a ridiculous suggestion




The 45th ID's unit crest was a symbol used by the Native Americans living in the Southwest US before the enslavement and corruption of this culture by Spainards who totally decimated the culture. Now the Spanish-speaking mestizos think they are the original inhabitants of the land. Bull. Go to any of the reservations in northern New Mexico and see who the ORIGINAL OCCUPANTS of this land are. Compare genetics. THESE are the Native Americans.

And THAT is where I am coming from.



You do understand why it would be completely self-defeating to use a swastika, right?
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:37:21 PM EDT
On a similar note, tonight on traffic watch a nice rear-engine motor home towing an SUV was rear-ended by a 53' tractor trailer whose driver had (in the words of the exasperated state trooper) "No logbook, no driver's license and no speak English". Later while driving to church I spotted the rig in a truck stop with the commercial enforcement cops still investigating. In my limited experience, if the driver is illegal the cargo is likely to be as well. Planerench out.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:37:57 PM EDT
Mexico is what Texas could have been, had Texas only been ruled by revolving door fascists, socialists, and hippies, and populated by welfare queens and retards. I have some trouble discerning the basis for mestizo pride.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:49:57 PM EDT
Like I keep saying, if it is better there............GO BACK

at gessner and westheimer today there was a pregnant latina with her three small kids
they were ALL begging for money with a cardboard signs for the "tourists" to read.........
(as I passed them I was thinking "like I am not already paying for your welfare and med bills")
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 10:30:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FLAL1A:
Mexico is what Texas could have been, had Texas only been ruled by revolving door fascists, socialists, and hippies, and populated by welfare queens and retards. I have some trouble discerning the basis for mestizo pride.



For me, it is the idea that I was descended of a great race renown for its remarkable affinity for the arts, astronomy, mathematics, and of course, war. That said, I have no Spanish blood in my lineage. I am known in Tenochtitlan as Montezuma the XXIV
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 5:05:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic:

Originally Posted By FLAL1A:
Mexico is what Texas could have been, had Texas only been ruled by revolving door fascists, socialists, and hippies, and populated by welfare queens and retards. I have some trouble discerning the basis for mestizo pride.



For me, it is the idea that I was descended of a great race renown for its remarkable affinity for the arts, astronomy, mathematics, and of course, war. That said, I have no Spanish blood in my lineage. I am known in Tenochtitlan as Montezuma the XXIV



My point is that there is AFAIK no significant difference in climate, geography, or resources between Mexico and Texas that would explain why one is rich and the other a shithole. My guess is that it's some element of Spanish culture, since most former Spanish colonies, whatever the ethnicity of the indigenous people, seem to be similarly corrupt, lethargic, and disorganized. IOW, it can't be the Indians' fault.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 5:24:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By OFFascist: Yes long live the race of white women.
With big boobies!
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 5:36:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic:
What I find offensive is that white people cannot have White Entertainment Television or organizations catered primarily to Caucasians without the ACLU and the NAACP throwing a shit-fit over it.


Sure you can. That is such bullshit. Nobody pays any attention to those organizations anymore - well - except for the AM talk radio crowd maybe.

Start a "WET" (just remember, the name "SpikeTV" is already taken) - and when it fails commercially, remember to blame it on some other group.

Originally Posted By OFFascist:

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:
Viva La Raza Blanca!


Yes long live the race of white women.


Classic.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 5:55:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/19/2005 5:57:00 AM EDT by weptek911]
I DEMAND that the spanish language channel on cable begin english closed captioning, so I can understand what all the hot latin chicks are saying. Every day they don't do this is a violation of my civil rights.

Who's with me ?.

Link Posted: 8/19/2005 11:48:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dolomite:

Originally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic:
What I find offensive is that white people cannot have White Entertainment Television or organizations catered primarily to Caucasians without the ACLU and the NAACP throwing a shit-fit over it.


Sure you can. That is such bullshit. Nobody pays any attention to those organizations anymore - well - except for the AM talk radio crowd maybe.

Start a "WET" (just remember, the name "SpikeTV" is already taken) - and when it fails commercially, remember to blame it on some other group.



Oh yeah, you can sure disguise "white entertainment" and call it SpikeTV or Blue Collar Comedy or whatever in the hell. My point was that you have to use innuendo -- you have to disguise such content as being something other than entertainment or groups intended for the white audience. With whites quickly becoming the minority, I'd like to see something actually called "Television for white people", or a "White Student Union" at some campus, but something tells me that won't happen.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 10:31:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dolomite:

Originally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic:
What I find offensive is that white people cannot have White Entertainment Television or organizations catered primarily to Caucasians without the ACLU and the NAACP throwing a shit-fit over it.


Sure you can. That is such bullshit. Nobody pays any attention to those organizations anymore - well - except for the AM talk radio crowd maybe.

Start a "WET" (just remember, the name "SpikeTV" is already taken) - and when it fails commercially, remember to blame it on some other group.

Originally Posted By OFFascist:

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:
Viva La Raza Blanca!


Yes long live the race of white women.


Classic.



Do you realize that the guy you are telling to start a White Entertainment Television Channel
is Hispanic? He just doesn't see racism everywhere like many people do(like you do)

He is also the one that pointed out that the "classic" line you liked so much is incorrect

being incorrect doesn't seem to matter too much to you though, as long as you "hammer the racists"
Link Posted: 8/20/2005 12:02:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 22bad:

Originally Posted By Dolomite:

Originally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic:
What I find offensive is that white people cannot have White Entertainment Television or organizations catered primarily to Caucasians without the ACLU and the NAACP throwing a shit-fit over it.


Sure you can. That is such bullshit. Nobody pays any attention to those organizations anymore - well - except for the AM talk radio crowd maybe.

Start a "WET" (just remember, the name "SpikeTV" is already taken) - and when it fails commercially, remember to blame it on some other group.

Originally Posted By OFFascist:

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:
Viva La Raza Blanca!


Yes long live the race of white women.


Classic.



Do you realize that the guy you are telling to start a White Entertainment Television Channel
is Hispanic? He just doesn't see racism everywhere like many people do(like you do)

He is also the one that pointed out that the "classic" line you liked so much is incorrect

being incorrect doesn't seem to matter too much to you though, as long as you "hammer the racists"



No shit. I try to sympathize with the liberal b.s. thrown towards caucasians in general b/c its nonsense. I mean let's face it, minorities by and large are liberal, and although I do have a bias for those of my culture, I largely disagree with their politics.

And as for the Spanish lesson, well, see my above post.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:13:53 PM EDT
I did have an idea for a bumper sticker this week
Put a small "La Raza Blanca" sticker on top of
the la raza bumper stickers, I think it would be a
good indicator of the non-illegals anger at the illegal invasion
if everywhere you looked illegals cars said"La Raza Blanca"
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:17:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:
Viva La Raza Blanca!



+1


I see a lock coming though. I dont see a real need to be proud of being white, I dont feel inadequate to begin with.
I do get pissed at not being allowed to be proud of my race while others can be.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:23:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:
Viva La Raza Blanca!


+1
I see a lock coming though. I dont see a real need to be proud of being white, I dont feel inadequate to begin with.
I do get pissed at not being allowed to be proud of my race while others can be.



No need for a lock unless the liberals get even MORE carried away with they racist innuendo
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:23:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
As long as being an American is #1, knock yourself out.




+1 to the tenth!
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:33:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/21/2005 8:36:31 PM EDT by The_Macallan]

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
I'll say it. It shouldn't be about pride in your race. It should be about pride in your country. If you move here legally, great, dive right in and live the American Dream to the best of your ability. But don't come here, feed off those that make it work, refuse to learn the language, refuse to be part of making this country better, then intentionally segregate yourself and bitch about "White America" keeping you down.

I agree 100% and especially support the last part.

BUT... when your "race" is institutionally demonized, denigrated and discriminated against by your own government at every level - pushing back is not a matter of racism, pride or superiority - it's a matter of SURVIVAL.

When nearly every facet of public affairs (affirmative-action, workplace "diversity" quotas, hate-crimes, scholarships, grants, loans, educational goals, immigration laws, etc.) has intentionally and purposefully stacked the deck against you and put a bullseye on your back BECAUSE of you being white, circling the wagons becomes a necessity.

Link Posted: 8/21/2005 9:00:22 PM EDT
Ok, stop.

Too many people are making too much sense

in this thread.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 11:14:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
I'll say it. It shouldn't be about pride in your race. It should be about pride in your country. If you move here legally, great, dive right in and live the American Dream to the best of your ability. But don't come here, feed off those that make it work, refuse to learn the language, refuse to be part of making this country better, then intentionally segregate yourself and bitch about "White America" keeping you down.

I agree 100% and especially support the last part.

BUT... when your "race" is institutionally demonized, denigrated and discriminated against by your own government at every level - pushing back is not a matter of racism, pride or superiority - it's a matter of SURVIVAL.

When nearly every facet of public affairs (affirmative-action, workplace "diversity" quotas, hate-crimes, scholarships, grants, loans, educational goals, immigration laws, etc.) has intentionally and purposefully stacked the deck against you and put a bullseye on your back BECAUSE of you being white, circling the wagons becomes a necessity.



And then, on top of everything, they allow people from another country to enter AND stay
ILLEGALLY and IGNORE the LAWS that they have been seriously enforcing against Citizens
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