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Posted: 4/17/2006 11:01:27 PM EST
Most people I know started buying ars and other military style rifles cause of the '89 Cali ban, the '94 fed ban and the 2000 Cali ban revised. It was really a case of "I want it if you tell me I can't have it". Most of the people went on to buy other guns.

So, why did you start getting military style weapons?
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 11:03:15 PM EST
I wanted to go broke
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 11:05:23 PM EST
YES!!!!

I first caught BRD while in the Infantry. Had been shooting all my life, really appreciated the beauty and functionality of the rifle.

Probably didn't help that I'd grown up a Viet Nam history buff. My earliest memory is of the fall of Saigon.
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 11:07:48 PM EST
I wanted one before I found out what a shitty state I live in.

I got in on the .50BMG ban, though. I would not have owned one of those within the next ten years if it wasn't for the ban.
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 11:08:32 PM EST
I owned my first AR15 BEFORE their was even talk of a ban.


There was life before the Crime Bill.
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 11:09:42 PM EST
I just always liked military type weapons. Some say my blood is green. But I owned AR's way before any weapon ban's have been inacted. Also it is well advisable to have and own NATO caliber weapons, when and if the big one ever hits it will still be easy to aquire ammo.
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 11:10:02 PM EST
I always thought they looked cool, always wanted one. I bought my first one in '92 to build an Open rifle for USPSA 3-Gun matches.
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 11:12:11 PM EST
No. If it wasn't for the ban it would have always been one of those cool things I didn't really need. Now I have a couple and a closet full of mags.

Well, I did before the boating accident!
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 11:12:16 PM EST
I wanted one before I even knew there was a ban. I learned about it here on ARFCOM shortly after I purchased my postban bushmaster.
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 11:12:32 PM EST
I've always wanted both AKs and ARs, and all manner of evil weaponry...

Ban didn't change that.
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 11:14:00 PM EST
It was all over for me when I shot my 1st UZI while I was in Junior High.
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 11:15:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/17/2006 11:15:19 PM EST by Rakky]

Originally Posted By Citabria7GCBC:
I wanted one before I even knew there was a ban. I learned about it here on ARFCOM shortly after I purchased my postban bushmaster.




Link Posted: 4/17/2006 11:16:17 PM EST
Shortly after I got out of the army, I wanted to buy a rifle. The only rifles I had ever fired was M-16s in the army. Seemed logical to buy a rifle I already knew how to field strip, maintain, clean and fire. So, I bought an AR-15. That was in 1992.
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 11:19:14 PM EST
I owned several before the bans went into effect.
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 11:23:21 PM EST
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 11:46:46 PM EST
Was vaguely aware of things like "gun bans" and such things but being a dumb sheeple didn't think that had anything to do with me until I went to find out what I'd need to do in order to buy firearms after 9/11. That's when I discovered that it DID effect me.

While I can appreciate the artistry and craftsmanship in "traditional" firearms, the functionality, ruggedness and design purpose behind "military style" weapons has a greater appeal for me.

I purchased 19 guns while living in California, number 20 was an AR, 2 months after I bought my house here in Montana. My next few rifles will all fall into the category of "evil" ones (as described by the socialists and grabbers).
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 12:02:12 AM EST
I've always wanted an evil black rifle. I'm trying to save up so I can buy a Bushy lower one summer and an upper the next since I can only work during the summer. Worry about the 2008 election and potential subsequent AWB's made me go out and buy a WASR-10 instead of an AR lower last summer. I'd rather have a complete and working EBR RIGHT FREAKIN' NOW than half of one. This summer, I'm grabbing a handgun and a bunch of mags and ammo before it gets any more expensive.

Next summer, Bushy lower and more mags and ammo. Summer 2008, Bushy upper and more mags and ammo. Hopefully by then I'll be able to tell whether or not my fears were justified. Either way, by the time campaign season starts, I should be the proud owner of an AK, an AR, and at least one pistol. After that, assuming another AWB hasn't doomed us all, I'll hopefully have a better job (since I'll have graduated college by then) and can start saving up for a Romak-3 and more handguns.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 12:04:37 AM EST
Course..It`s in my blood.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 12:07:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/18/2006 12:12:28 AM EST by U_Down_Wit_OPP]
I came of age just after the inception of "the ban years". My gun owners lexicon will never be able to shake terms like "preban" and "full capacity magazine" as I have far more years with those words than I do being free from them.

I was blessed in that my father owned a few politically incorrect firearms (a couple Reg. MG's and a few SUR's) and let me shoot them from a young age, but I moved out young and my own interests in black guns didn't really hit until the Clinton Ban was a couple years underway. I got most heavily into it when the very peak of "preban" AR pricing was underway ($2000 for a preban Oly, etc...) and I had absolutely no interest to pay that kind of bread for a telestock and a flash hider.

I don't view the expiration of the AWB as a broad political mandate that will continue on ad-infinitum, but rather a window of opportunity that I intend to exploit like a m'fer. It will be back.


Link Posted: 4/18/2006 12:10:32 AM EST
I damn sure would. Eventually. The possibily of a new ban has prompted me to buy one sooner than I would have otherwise, however (still haven't bout one, but I'm about to).
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 12:13:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By Rakky:

Originally Posted By Citabria7GCBC:
I wanted one before I even knew there was a ban. I learned about it here on ARFCOM shortly after I purchased my postban bushmaster.







He probably purchased it during ban years, and thus was faced with either buying a postban rifle, or paying outrageous sums for a preban. The only reason that emoticon is appropriate is for their being a ban at all.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 12:13:20 AM EST
I assembled my first AR in 1987, and now own 10.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 12:13:25 AM EST
don't own one.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 12:17:58 AM EST
I probably would have bought an AR anyway, but the ban pushed me into the realm of political junkie along with firearm enthusiast. The spectre of an impending future ban does help me plan my purchases, however...
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 3:08:46 AM EST
turnned 18 in 94. bans and the talk of bans made it so I had no choice. ban or not I was well on my way to buying ARs and such. only thing that slows me down now and back then is $$$$$$$$
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 3:11:19 AM EST
Had a whole lot more interest in military style firearms than "hunting guns." Always did, don't know why.

Regardless of bans, I still would have bought an AR, or two, or three plus FALs and other goodies.

I own "hunting guns" (here in PA you can't hunt with a semi-auto rifle) and use them but much prefer my AR15 to my Remington 700 for most applications.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 3:12:20 AM EST
Yes, most definately.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 3:12:48 AM EST
I was hooked after the first time I qualified with my M16 at 500M.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 3:15:00 AM EST
Yeah, I got into BRD way before the ban
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 3:17:50 AM EST

Originally Posted By Kooter:
I wanted to go broke



Pretty much yeah..

And I liked the idea of the look on my extended families faces when I bring it to the Reunion and Shootoff.
But now I worry about them stealing it.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 3:35:40 AM EST
not sure, i'd own one some day for sure but as i'm in college and soon to be medical school (i hope) i dont have much $$ available for toys.

i think the reason i got mine now instead of later is not because of the 94 ban, but because a future ban could occur just as easily, and it might even be worse. i didnt want to regret not buying one when i could.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 3:42:04 AM EST
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 3:46:12 AM EST
I got them because they're cooler than hunting guns!
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 3:59:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By Doucheatron3000:

Originally Posted By Rakky:

Originally Posted By Citabria7GCBC:
I wanted one before I even knew there was a ban. I learned about it here on ARFCOM shortly after I purchased my postban bushmaster.







He probably purchased it during ban years, and thus was faced with either buying a postban rifle, or paying outrageous sums for a preban. The only reason that emoticon is appropriate is for their being a ban at all.



Yep thats exactly how it went down. Got it in 2000 so the ban was in full effect. It was either $884.00 for my bushy postban or $1200-$1500 for preban.

884 came with hard case 10rd mag sling and he through in 3 30rd mags
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 4:00:25 AM EST
I wanted an AR because I felt it was the most technologically advanced rifle at the time. Now I think it's the most flexible platform.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 7:18:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By Big_Bear:
I had always wanted an AR15, but never got around to buying one. In 1993 Bill Clinton gave a speech where he told Congress if they passed the AW ban, he would sign it. I bought my first AR15 later that year.



Hmmm, I'm a bit suprised. I figured most posts would be like Big Bear's. I was always facinated by military rifles since I was a kid and had a Small Arms of the World book. My favorite was always the M14 and the M16 Commando (as they called it in the book) but never got around to buying them as I had other financial priorities at the time and just figured I'd get one someday, plus I had a brother and friends with them so I always had an opportunity to shoot them. But when the '94 ban came I went out and bought a Mak 90. Then another. Then a couple other types over the years. Didn't actually get my AR until 2000.

But I've personally seen the ban create eight new gun owners who kinda liked guns but never really would have gotten around to getting one. Then due to the ban went out and started buying guns.

My personal belief is that without the assault weapon bans we'd have maybe 5% of the current number of AR and AK style rifles out there. Hmmm....
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 7:22:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/18/2006 7:23:35 AM EST by U_Down_Wit_OPP]

Originally Posted By Ratters:

My personal belief is that without the assault weapon bans we'd have maybe 5% of the current number of AR and AK style rifles out there. Hmmm....



"Ban Exposure" and the perpetual stream of news stories during that time was a huge beacon to these kinds of guns, no doubt.
Ask any gun shop owner who has been in business for longer than 25 years how many AR's and AK's he sold prior to 89 (and/or 94) and how many afterwards.

It's almost like the entire complexion of the industry changed with the bans.
Every gun shop used to have an AR collecting dust in the corner, with a primary stock of deer rifles and shotguns. Now, the most profitable shops are just the opposite.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 7:25:14 AM EST
I got my first AR because of the ban (and the ban ending). I joined here to learn a bit and then got an AR as soon as I could.

It was like a matter of principle.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 7:25:28 AM EST
started purchasing military style weapons in the mid eighties, the assault weapons ban didnt even slow me down..
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 7:26:00 AM EST
Bill Clinton gave me BRD, and now five rifles later, I want to personally thank him. I would have been a .308 Cooper Scout guy if not for Slick Willy.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 7:30:45 AM EST
I have wanted an AR-15 since I was like ten, which is coincidentaly when I bought my first gun mag and realized I COULD have an AR-15. My dad and I made a deal that as long as I kept my grades up and helped around the house/property I would get one when I turned fourteen.

Then the ban happened

I remember actually getting SO mad when that asshat signed the ban that I cried those hot tears, even as a kid I HATED(and still do) Bill Clinton

After that the price went so far up on AR's that there was no way I would get one. I finally got one about 6 years ago
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 7:39:53 AM EST
WTF is a 'hunting gun'?

Yeah I got one during the ban when I was old enough and had enough money
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 7:43:03 AM EST
When I could afford them and that was long before anybody's ban.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 7:50:23 AM EST
playing rainbow six, i used the CAR alot and i wanted one so i asked my daddie to buy couple before they banned it here in CA
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 7:52:29 AM EST
Always liked the AR mostly because they are easy to build and upgrade. My first rifle was [and is] the M1 carbine and the second one was an AR built on a Sendra lower I picked up at a gunshow.


Link Posted: 4/18/2006 7:58:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By CRC:
WTF is a 'hunting gun'?

Yeah I got one during the ban when I was old enough and had enough money



Any firearm of sufficient accuracy and lethality to be a practical weapon to hunt your game of choice.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 8:07:49 AM EST
Ever since I shot my uncles SP1 when I was 10 I have been BRD.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 8:09:55 AM EST
I blame Reagan!

He was CinC when I joined up, and I immediately caught BRD. No cure found.......
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 8:19:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/18/2006 12:25:54 PM EST by Thuban]
I had always wanted one but kept finding excuses not to buy an AR. Then the AWB passed and I ran down to the local gun store and picked out a Colt 16” AR. I’m sure I would have bought one eventually but the ban threat made me hurry up.

Funny thing is.

I was living with my brother at the time. I get home and can’t wait to show him my new toy. He got home about an hour after I did with a new toy of his own. It was the exact same model of AR-15 that I just bought. I must have only missed him at the gun store by about an hour.

Great minds think alike.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 8:24:48 AM EST
Yes, just not as many.
Link Posted: 4/18/2006 8:49:26 AM EST
Absolutely , maybe not 4 of them though :) .

And probably no AK either.
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