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Posted: 10/5/2005 12:30:14 AM EDT
....it is because they were bled white in WW1 and WW2.

The best of the French died in WW1. Check out some WW1 history.

Largely because of a (still) messed up political structure.

Still, France has an atomic bomb. And who can blame them?

BUT, how did France get the atomic bomb? And, do they have a hydrogen bomb?

I would like to see an expose' on how France got the "Bomb".

You ain't gonna "mess" with the French again.

France is beautiful. Who can blame anyone for trying to conquer France.

Sexy women, great wine and cheese.

No matter how much we may love or hate France, they do have the "Bomb".

And again, I don't blame them. After all, they got to protect all them hot womenz!
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 12:38:20 AM EDT
France smells. Real bad.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 12:49:12 PM EDT
Napolean thinned the herd a little, too.

Larry
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 12:53:05 PM EDT

If The French Are Pussies Today....


What do you mean -- IF?
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 12:58:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TR:
You ain't gonna "mess" with the French again.


Funny terrorists have been doing it for decades


France is beautiful. Who can blame anyone for trying to conquer France.

The thing is they don't 'Try' they DO. Jeeze point your finger at them like a gun and they surrender.


Sexy women,

with unshaven arm pits...


great wine and cheese.

Hence the term 'CHEESE EATING surrender monkees'.


No matter how much we may love or hate France, they do have the "Bomb".

Whoop de do, we have 16 year olds designing bombs for science fair projects. It's not like it's that difficult - the hard part has been done alread (and is available for public view at the Library of Congress...)
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:05:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2005 1:06:49 PM EDT by Max_Mike]
Weak history... Please...

Explain away the French humiliation and ass whipping during the Franco-Prussian War.

Kinda hard to blame that on WW1 and WW2.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:06:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2005 1:09:29 PM EDT by BUCC_Guy]
There has been strong arguments for why French culture is so... unique. Historically, they have always been a bit... umm... pussified. While aesthetics in Victorian and Georgian England relied heavilly on the emphasis of the female body (corsets, elaborate attire, hair and makeup), the French model of beauty was based on the image of adolescent males (short hair, less curves.)

Anyway, as to the original post. There has been a well developed theory that the French lost so many of their strongest stock that, genetically, they are weaker physically. Rarely can anyone bash the frogs for their contributions to philosophy, physics, etc. Intellectually they have always been there. In the mid to late 20th century, however, there appears to have been a genetic shift due to the loss of the most able-bodied of men. (The French lost LOTS of people in the World Wars.)

The current "cowardly" image of French culture can arguably be traced to historical metrosexuality, so to speak... the genetic shift in the 20th century, and the lack of intermarriage. France is chock full of immigrants... able-bodied immigrants. Inter-relations would result in, theoretically, a genetically stronger generation but at the cost of French identity. Ever since the Revolution, the hardest thing to break is French pride in both culture and the concept of universal republicanism. Oddly enough, the last two concepts are at odds with each other... but no one is perfect.


I used to have sources to cite but my book collection is out of state at the moment.


- BG

EDIT: heh... I bet such a long response kills this thread.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:10:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Weak history... Please...

Explain away the French humiliation and ass whipping during the Franco-Prussian War.

Kinda hard to blame that on WW1 and WW2.



less advanced rail system?
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:10:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2005 1:10:58 PM EDT by Hawker]
If you think womenz with hairy pits are hot....good on ya...not for me
EDIT: o i c u r from Va....it's the norm there I guess
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:10:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Weak history... Please...

Explain away the French humiliation and ass whipping during the Franco-Prussian War.



Ahh your history fu is weak grasshopper.

Diifering social structures between Prussia and France.
In 1873 France, Army officers occupied the lower ends of the social spectrum.
They were viewed as below artists and teachers in terms of importance and respect.
This of course created both an inferior officer class, as well as creating terrible morale.

On the other end of the spectrum, Prussia was a military state.
The only way to advance or get any respect was to become a military man, preferably an officer.
Their officers were well trained, highly motivated, and very respected.
This created an officer class heads and shoulders above any that existed in the world.

And there you have.
These practices were also still in place at the time of the First World War.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:17:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2005 1:31:32 PM EDT by Max_Mike]

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Weak history... Please...

Explain away the French humiliation and ass whipping during the Franco-Prussian War.



Ahh your history fu is weak grasshopper.

Diifering social structures between Prussia and France.
In 1873 France, Army officers occupied the lower ends of the social spectrum.
They were viewed as below artists and teachers in terms of importance and respect.
This of course created both an inferior officer class, as well as creating terrible morale.

On the other end of the spectrum, Prussia was a military state.
The only way to advance or get any respect was to become a military man, preferably an officer.
Their officers were well trained, highly motivated, and very respected.
This created an officer class heads and shoulders above any that existed in the world.

And there you have.
These practices were also still in place at the time of the First World War.



WTF?

Are you blind or are your reading comprehension skills weak.

The French has their ass whipped plain and simple and that cannot be explained away by WWI or WWII. Nothing wrong with my history.

The above you posted is just as easily traslated in to the French are pussies.


Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:19:31 PM EDT
The last Frenchman to be tough were the 3 musketeers!
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:29:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Weak history... Please...

Explain away the French humiliation and ass whipping during the Franco-Prussian War.



Ahh your history fu is weak grasshopper.

Diifering social structures between Prussia and France.
In 1873 France, Army officers occupied the lower ends of the social spectrum.
They were viewed as below artists and teachers in terms of importance and respect.
This of course created both an inferior officer class, as well as creating terrible morale.

On the other end of the spectrum, Prussia was a military state.
The only way to advance or get any respect was to become a military man, preferably an officer.
Their officers were well trained, highly motivated, and very respected.
This created an officer class heads and shoulders above any that existed in the world.

And there you have.
These practices were also still in place at the time of the First World War.



WTF?

Are you blind or are your reading comprehension skills weak.

The French has their ass whipped plain and simple and that cannot be explained away by WWI or WWII. Nothing wrong with my history.

The above you posted is just as easily be traslated in to the Frenh are pussies.





I didn't post anything about the "frenh"
Sheesh, this is a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:33:41 PM EDT
I've been to France. The are a bunch of pansies because they keep showing off their past instead of moving forward to the future. They don't have enough kids and they don't have enough money. So why fight? Just enjoy life until the next horde runs you over and pray that the Americans will come back to save the day.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:36:26 PM EDT
best of the french died? bullshit. the french have had there ass whooped in almost every major conflict they have been in. even santa anna frommexico whooped there ass. now thats sorry.....
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:38:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2005 1:39:27 PM EDT by kar98k]

Originally Posted By Ohio:
Napolean thinned the herd a little, too.

Larry



Don't forget the thousands that they killed during their revolution.

As many of their men as they got rid off about every generation, by the end of WWII they didn't have any more smart people left.

Looks like the Brits are not far behind them.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:39:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2005 1:44:04 PM EDT by Max_Mike]

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
WTF?

Are you blind or are your reading comprehension skills weak.

The French has their ass whipped plain and simple and that cannot be explained away by WWI or WWII. Nothing wrong with my history.

The above you posted is just as easily be traslated in to the Frenh are pussies.





I didn't post anything about the "frenh"
Sheesh, this is a battle of wits with an unarmed man.



Ok we will sink to your childish level... Sheesh, this is a battle of wits with a 3rd grader... happy now.

So my tying skills are bad... nice try at changing the subject

1. Were are were not the French beaten badly in Franco-Prussian War.

2. And WWI and WWII does not relate to that in any way.

Please show where this is incorrect.

3, Do you score above a third grade level in reading comprehension.

Use crayons if it helps you respond.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:40:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TR:
....it is because they were bled white in WW1 and WW2.

The best of the French died in WW1. Check out some WW1 history.

Largely because of a (still) messed up political structure.

Still, France has an atomic bomb. And who can blame them?

BUT, how did France get the atomic bomb? And, do they have a hydrogen bomb?

I would like to see an expose' on how France got the "Bomb".

You ain't gonna "mess" with the French again.

France is beautiful. Who can blame anyone for trying to conquer France.

Sexy women, great wine and cheese.

No matter how much we may love or hate France, they do have the "Bomb".

And again, I don't blame them. After all, they got to protect all them hot womenz!



Another pot smoker.

What the heck are you talking about???

Never mind.

Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:41:03 PM EDT
You could always edit out yur spelling and grammar errors.

But then what would some people have to bitch about.

h.gif
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:43:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By kar98k:
You could always edit out yur spelling and grammar errors.

But then what would some people have to bitch about.




I figgered out the spelling and grammar stuff, and I still don't know what the heck the thread authors point is.

Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:45:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
WTF?

Are you blind or are your reading comprehension skills weak.

The French has their ass whipped plain and simple and that cannot be explained away by WWI or WWII. Nothing wrong with my history.

The above you posted is just as easily be traslated in to the Frenh are pussies.





I didn't post anything about the "frenh"
Sheesh, this is a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

So my tying skills are bad... nice try at changing the subject

1. Were are were not the French beaten badly in Franco-Prussian War.

2. And WWI and WWII does not relate to that in any way.

Please show where this is incorrect.

3, Do you score above a third grade level in reading comprehension.

Use crayons if it helps you respond.



I agree with what you are saying, but I feel that your answer is incomplete and simplistic.

Did the french get their asses handed to them in the Franco-Prussian War (1873)?
Without a doubt.
However, I felt that if the underlying cultural differences between France and Germany were important to investigate, as opposed to just saying "teh frenh are teh suXor." ya know?

As for my reading comprehension, I scored a perfect 800 on the Verbal section of the SAT.
But that's neither here nor there.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 1:51:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
I agree with what you are saying, but I feel that your answer is incomplete and simplistic.

Did the french get their asses handed to them in the Franco-Prussian War (1873)?
Without a doubt.
However, I felt that if the underlying cultural differences between France and Germany were important to investigate, as opposed to just saying "teh frenh are teh suXor." ya know?

As for my reading comprehension, I scored a perfect 800 on the Verbal section of the SAT.
But that's neither here nor there.



So culturally speaking the French were pussies... and the German were not.

OK truce I got the point.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 2:06:12 PM EDT
No. No. No. Its a problem of genetics. France's high point was right after the fall of the Roman Empire when it was ruled by Karl der Grosse (sometimes referred to in the pussified French vernacular as Charlemagne). Karl was a GERMANIC king of the GERMANIC tribe of the Franks, and his capital was in the GERMAN city of Aachen. The Franks ruled the local, pussified population and all was well. Over time, however, the Germanic population intermarried with the local, pussified population and those strong German genes were diluted by the wussy genes of the local population.

Germany recognized the plight of the poor French and altruistically attempted to reintroduce some strong German genes back into the population, notably in 1873, 1914, and 1939. Unfortunately, Germany's attempts to reinvigorate the French population failed when the U.S. Marines misunderstood their altruistic intentions. Thus, France has its current wussified population.

Link Posted: 10/5/2005 2:11:03 PM EDT
French were pussies THEN too.

We GAVE them the bomb, just like the UK.

French women are NOT all hot, some are. Many are dirty, stinky armpit hair infested Euro hippies.

French wine sucks, the cheese is spectacularly unremarkable and they fuck up good steaks by drowning them in oils and sauce.

Add to that the fact that Parisians seem to be having a "Who is the biggest asshole on the planet?" contest with native New Yorkers and you have what we all generally disdain.

Only the Normans seem to be mostly exempted from the average criticisms. Maybe it's waking up and seeing hundreds of yards of white crosses everyday that helps them keep their head out of their rectum.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 2:16:34 PM EDT

I scored a perfect 800 on the Verbal section of the SAT.


Link Posted: 10/5/2005 2:21:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Only the Normans seem to be mostly exempted from the average criticisms. Maybe it's waking up and seeing hundreds of yards of white crosses everyday that helps them keep their head out of their rectum.



The Normans are descendants of Vikings who had been raping and pillaging the French coast. Following typical French policy, the King of France gave Normandy to the Vikings in exchange for the Viking's promise to keep other Vikings out. Thus, having Viking ancestry keeps the Normans from being pussified.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 2:25:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
WTF?

Are you blind or are your reading comprehension skills weak.

The French has their ass whipped plain and simple and that cannot be explained away by WWI or WWII. Nothing wrong with my history.

The above you posted is just as easily be traslated in to the Frenh are pussies.





I didn't post anything about the "frenh"
Sheesh, this is a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

So my tying skills are bad... nice try at changing the subject

1. Were are were not the French beaten badly in Franco-Prussian War.

2. And WWI and WWII does not relate to that in any way.

Please show where this is incorrect.

3, Do you score above a third grade level in reading comprehension.

Use crayons if it helps you respond.



I agree with what you are saying, but I feel that your answer is incomplete and simplistic.

Did the french get their asses handed to them in the Franco-Prussian War (1873)?
Without a doubt.
However, I felt that if the underlying cultural differences between France and Germany were important to investigate, as opposed to just saying "teh frenh are teh suXor." ya know?

As for my reading comprehension, I scored a perfect 800 on the Verbal section of the SAT.
But that's neither here nor there.



So, basically you are saying, the French Suck? Way to overanalyze and confuse the issue. When you lose a war... it is because you suck. "Cultural differences" are no consolation when your has foreign boots on your soil and your flag is white.

Being able to read doesn't always make you smart.



Link Posted: 10/5/2005 2:46:58 PM EDT
The French received many of it's nuclear expertise through spying at first, and then market manipulation of ore and plutonium in a secert cartel with Canada and South Africa. They used the cartel to control the sale and distribution of ore and plutonium not only to artifically raise prices but to force other nations to share nuclear secrets with them for ore.

Their spying was orginally done during WWII through the French Canadians. During the war, Canada and UK were partners with the USA for bomb development. After all, the USA needed a source for ore which came from Canada.

Link Posted: 10/5/2005 3:38:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2005 3:42:18 PM EDT by thedoctors308]

Originally Posted By rifleman2000: So, basically you are saying, the French Suck? Way to overanalyze and confuse the issue. When you lose a war... it is because you suck. "Cultural differences" are no consolation when your has foreign boots on your soil and your flag is white.

Being able to read doesn't always make you smart.





I never claimed to be smart.
however, I think you, as a soldier, can admit that it is important to understand the how and the why of the defeat as opposed to simply saying "these guys lost, these guys won"
My point was thusly - treat your military like second class citizens and you'll soon lose wars."


We've lost a war or two in our time - does that mean we suck?

ETA: Jesus, sorry for ruining the "french suck"-fest.
Just trying to throw some stuff out there, maybe have a discussion that wasn't so superficial.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:38:49 PM EDT
What really sucks about the French, is that they have Melissa Theriault, and we don't.







Link Posted: 10/5/2005 6:08:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:

ETA: Jesus, sorry for ruining the "french suck"-fest.
Just trying to throw some stuff out there, maybe have a discussion that wasn't so superficial.



Apology accepted.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 6:13:52 PM EDT
Course they did help us gain our Independence from England.....

We might not have gotten it without their help.

Just playing devil's advocate.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 7:19:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mandingo:
Course they did help us gain our Independence from England.....

We might not have gotten it without their help.

Just playing devil's advocate.




Well, perform an exorcism on yourself, foul fiend from the pit!!!


We would have won even without the French, I believe, it simply would have taken longer and been more bloody. The French claim it was for brotherhood, fraternity, etc, but we can see that they merely wanted to heap defeat on the British. There was actually a whole world of war at the time (arguably the real WW1).

If you want to argue that the French got blead by all the wars, then you must accept that the British were bled at least as badly. Remember that the Somme had 1 million casualties on the first day. There were 10 million killed, IIRC, throughout the war.

The Franco-Prussian war was not as serious bloodletting for either side, in relative terms.

It would seem to me that the French were winnowed by the wars, after Napoleon, that they consistently lost. Finally, with the example of the Foreign Legion, losing becomes the culture of the French military.

Seriously. The FFL is most proud, not of the victories, but of the defeats it has suffered. Considering that they keep coming back, knowing who gives them their orders is a testament to the despair that the FFL must feel.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 11:00:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mandingo:
Course they did help us gain our Independence from England.....

We might not have gotten it without their help.

Just playing devil's advocate.



Course they were mostly interested in being around no matter which way in went in case there was a chance to reclaim former French territories lost during the French-Indian War.

Just playing devil's advocate.

That said I still appreciate the help.
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 3:05:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic:
France smells. Real bad.



It's a combination of the really good cheese, the hairy armpits, and the fact that it is a "second world" country.
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 3:21:47 PM EDT
then....why ARE the French losers???? Culture, genetics, psychopathology, etc?????

Maybe it's someting in the food, air, water. Afterall, the Dutch and the Belgians are pretty weak too.

The the Germans lost a lot of men in WW1 too, but they still had some fight left for WW2.

And today, the Germans are pussies too!



Also, still my original question, how did France get the bomb? (I don't know) But I don't suspect we gave it to them. But maybe we did.

C'est le vie.

P.S. I really don't like French cooking. I don't think I've ever had a French meal that I liked. But I do stand by the wine, cheese, and women.

Hell, I'll stand by any wine, cheese, and woman.


Link Posted: 10/6/2005 3:24:50 PM EDT
IMHO whoever in the US military during WWII decided to issuie condoms to GI's liberating france should have been charged with crimes against humanityThat was there last,best chance to improve their gene pool
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 4:45:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dave_Markowitz:
What really sucks about the French, is that they have Melissa Theriault, and we don't.

www.teamgsb.com/stuff/melissa406.jpg


www.teamgsb.com/stuff/melissa203.jpg





Shoot, we have Alison Starling in WDC on ABC7.

You go find the picture.

I watch Channel 7 because of her!
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 5:04:59 PM EDT
+1 on Allison.
Same channel gave the Weather Channel Ms Steele,Weather Slut.Whoohoo
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 5:06:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By happycynic:
No. No. No. Its a problem of genetics. France's high point was right after the fall of the Roman Empire when it was ruled by Karl der Grosse (sometimes referred to in the pussified French vernacular as Charlemagne). Karl was a GERMANIC king of the GERMANIC tribe of the Franks, and his capital was in the GERMAN city of Aachen. The Franks ruled the local, pussified population and all was well. Over time, however, the Germanic population intermarried with the local, pussified population and those strong German genes were diluted by the wussy genes of the local population.

Germany recognized the plight of the poor French and altruistically attempted to reintroduce some strong German genes back into the population, notably in 1873, 1914, and 1939. Unfortunately, Germany's attempts to reinvigorate the French population failed when the U.S. Marines misunderstood their altruistic intentions. Thus, France has its current wussified population.




ACHTUNG BABY!
Got me laughing my Germanic ass off!
Link Posted: 10/6/2005 5:09:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dave15:
+1 on Allison.
Same channel gave the Weather Channel Ms Steele,Weather Slut.Whoohoo



Alexandra?! I think it is?!
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