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Posted: 1/2/2016 2:09:18 PM EDT
If Hillary is the next President......the true loser will be the Establishment GOP.

The GOP has had majorities in both houses of Congress and has done very little to thwart the Liberal Democrat agenda.
Boehner,Ryan and McConnell have not only sold us out but in my mind have reinforced the liberal Democrat agenda AND encouraged its base!

I believe that the GOP turnout in November has already been hurt by the actions of Boehner, Ryan and McConnell and will continue if the trio of pussies continue to sell us out.
I have fought the tinfoil thoughts for a long time.......but I'm beginning to think that maybe there ARE some puppet masters behind the scenes pulling those cords!
Trump's success is just one example of why the right is fed up with the status quo!

I believe.......that IF Hillary is coronated......the GOP is done!
What motivation would I have to support the "Grand" Old Party again?........the promise that "We will get Conservative again next time! We promise!"?
I am already hearing this same attitude from guys who are no where near as savvy about politics as we are......and I don't blame them.
At state and local GOP meetings I have voiced this concern since Bob Dole was the candidate!.......and I consistently get the face in response......
And I keep hearing those voices in my head......"Maybe the GOP establishment has already sold out and they are just playing YOU for a fool!"
If Hillary walks through the White House doors as President....I think the GOP is finished!
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 2:10:21 PM EDT
The true loser will be all of us!
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 2:11:41 PM EDT
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FPNI
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The GOP is dead...W killed it.
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IF?
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Originally Posted By Liv_C:

The true loser will be all of us!




FPNI


This.



 
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 2:17:44 PM EDT
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Your screen name is perfect.

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The true loser will be all of us!


FPNI



and the day we all need to get off grid as much as we can asap...
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 2:19:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TUMOR:
If Hillary is the next President......the true loser will be the Establishment GOP.

The GOP has had majorities in both houses of Congress and has done very little to thwart the Liberal Democrat agenda.
Boehner,Ryan and McConnell have not only sold us out but in my mind have reinforced the liberal Democrat agenda AND encouraged its base!

I believe that the GOP turnout in November has already been hurt by the actions of Boehner, Ryan and McConnell and will continue if the trio of pussies continue to sell us out.
I have fought the tinfoil thoughts for a long time.......but I'm beginning to think that maybe there ARE some puppet masters behind the scenes pulling those cords!
Trump's success is just one example of why the right is fed up with the status quo!

I believe.......that IF Hillary is coronated......the GOP is done!
What motivation would I have to support the "Grand" Old Party again?........the promise that "We will get Conservative again next time! We promise!"?
I am already hearing this same attitude from guys who are no where near as savvy about politics as we are......and I don't blame them.
At state and local GOP meetings I have voiced this concern since Bob Dole was the candidate!.......and I consistently get the face in response......
And I keep hearing those voices in my head......"Maybe the GOP establishment has already sold out and they are just playing YOU for a fool!"
If Hillary walks through the White House doors as President....I think the GOP is finished!
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Chess, not checkers  LOL

Guess who is in Check-Mate



Link Posted: 1/2/2016 2:19:33 PM EDT
The media is 100% left wing......thats a lot of free infomericials for HIllary....billions of dollars worth of propagandizing and brainwashing...disguised as "news facts" and "the truth"...
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 2:20:26 PM EDT
It will be who always loses when Democrats are elected- minorities the worst, the rest of us badly.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 2:21:32 PM EDT
The true loser will be America ,. The debt is sitting waiting like an elephant in the room that everyone acts like it is normal . It will grow and one day soon the collections will be due
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 2:24:02 PM EDT
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Any day now the GOPe is going to come to several conclusions in rapid succession, assuming they haven't already.

1. Jeb isn't going to be the nominee.
2. Neither is anyone else they approve of.
3. Hillary Clinton is the best candidate they have.
4. They're in a position to get her elected.

I'm starting to think vice president Sanders and a 50/50 senate is a distinct possibility too.

ETA- 110, that's not checkmate.
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yep, the GOP is already dead
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Message to the GOP Hierarchy.......many Americans are on to your game!........and we ALL will suffer the result!
Link Posted: 1/3/2016 12:30:35 PM EDT
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I see the GOPe apologists have showed up. The rest of them will be here shortly.

Chess not checkers
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You got that right......
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Potentially 5 SCOTUS appointees in the next 8 years.



Link Posted: 1/3/2016 1:18:59 PM EDT
The establishment GOP guys are already true losers. If Hillary wins the American people lose, illegals will be alright but actual citizens will be fucked.
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THIS! Truly this. We will have failed in not going to the polls and ensuring that she did not win!
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Exactly.  The "true losers" will be anyone who supports the 2A, because you won't believe what she is ready to unleash against it.

And may God help us if we somehow lose Congress under her administration.

For starters, she has already said she wants to remove existing legal protections for gun makers against lawsuits.

That would result in an avalanche of litigation which would destroy the American gun industry.

Law schools would have to hire new faculty to handle all the new "how to fuck over the gun industry through lawsuits" curriculea.

This would have happened already, BTW, if those protections were not in place.
Link Posted: 1/3/2016 1:27:34 PM EDT
Ask not for who the bell tolls. It tolls for thee.
Link Posted: 1/3/2016 1:37:51 PM EDT
The Republicans in congress have prevented any anti-gun legislation from moving-forward.

The only pro-gun folks who *want* to see Hillary elected and for pro-gun conservatives to lose their majority are neckbeards who are hoping she makes everything illegal so that they can raise prices, and make a killing.

The other group of people are Democrats and retards.

So the only folks who want to see pro-gun conservatives gone and Hillary get elected with a majority are retards, democrats, and neckbeards...
Link Posted: 1/3/2016 1:42:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TUMOR:
If Hillary is the next President......the true loser will be the Establishment GOP.

The GOP has had majorities in both houses of Congress and has done very little to thwart the Liberal Democrat agenda.
Boehner,Ryan and McConnell have not only sold us out but in my mind have reinforced the liberal Democrat agenda AND encouraged its base!

I believe that the GOP turnout in November has already been hurt by the actions of Boehner, Ryan and McConnell and will continue if the trio of pussies continue to sell us out.
I have fought the tinfoil thoughts for a long time.......but I'm beginning to think that maybe there ARE some puppet masters behind the scenes pulling those cords!
Trump's success is just one example of why the right is fed up with the status quo!

I believe.......that IF Hillary is coronated......the GOP is done!
What motivation would I have to support the "Grand" Old Party again?........the promise that "We will get Conservative again next time! We promise!"?
I am already hearing this same attitude from guys who are no where near as savvy about politics as we are......and I don't blame them.
At state and local GOP meetings I have voiced this concern since Bob Dole was the candidate!.......and I consistently get the face in response......
And I keep hearing those voices in my head......"Maybe the GOP establishment has already sold out and they are just playing YOU for a fool!"
If Hillary walks through the White House doors as President....I think the GOP is finished!
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The GOP and the DNC are the right/left wings of the same vulture that is perched atop your skull and eating your eyeballs.
Link Posted: 1/3/2016 1:52:29 PM EDT
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double tap
Link Posted: 1/3/2016 2:24:38 PM EDT
I am of the mindset that if Hillary gets elected conservatism is truly dead in this country.
Here is why:

She is a shrill unlikable, old, rich out of touch, lying, manipulative career politician with no real accomplishments.




1. If she can win the FSA, liberals, SJWs, illegals, and commie scum truly outnumber us.

2. She gets supreme Court justices and will be able to reverse conservative rulings.

3. The Republicans will lose big in the Congress and the Senate as they will be impotent to stop or worse complicit in the destruction of the USA.

4. Our nation will be flooded with illegals and Muslims at unprecedented levels who will be given blanket citizenship.

5. The FSA will be expanded through multiple welfare programs in the name of fairness and equality. Think free college.

6. Taxes will be raised on the productive to support it. Look for a top tax bracket of over 50%.

7. The 2nd amendment will be gutted in the name of safety and reduced crime.

8. The 1st amendment will be gutted in the name of anti racism.

9. Terrorism laws will be extended to target white males.

10. I can't think of anything else but it will be fucking bad and we will either have to embrace the glorious future in the people's socialist republic of amerika, or start civil war part 2.



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Chess, not checkers  LOL



Guess who is in Check-Mate





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Originally Posted By TUMOR:

If Hillary is the next President......the true loser will be the Establishment GOP.



The GOP has had majorities in both houses of Congress and has done very little to thwart the Liberal Democrat agenda.

Boehner,Ryan and McConnell have not only sold us out but in my mind have reinforced the liberal Democrat agenda AND encouraged its base!



I believe that the GOP turnout in November has already been hurt by the actions of Boehner, Ryan and McConnell and will continue if the trio of pussies continue to sell us out.

I have fought the tinfoil thoughts for a long time.......but I'm beginning to think that maybe there ARE some puppet masters behind the scenes pulling those cords!

Trump's success is just one example of why the right is fed up with the status quo!



I believe.......that IF Hillary is coronated......the GOP is done!

What motivation would I have to support the "Grand" Old Party again?........the promise that "We will get Conservative again next time! We promise!"?

I am already hearing this same attitude from guys who are no where near as savvy about politics as we are......and I don't blame them.

At state and local GOP meetings I have voiced this concern since Bob Dole was the candidate!.......and I consistently get the face in response......

And I keep hearing those voices in my head......"Maybe the GOP establishment has already sold out and they are just playing YOU for a fool!"

If Hillary walks through the White House doors as President....I think the GOP is finished!





Chess, not checkers  LOL



Guess who is in Check-Mate





https://sp.yimg.com/xj/th?id=OIP.Mb2a3a9b0d86213c719ec0d4bc01acdddo0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=250&h=168





 
Not a chess player, are ya?
Link Posted: 1/3/2016 2:28:38 PM EDT
"If Hillary is the next President......the true loser will be the Establishment GOP"





She is the establishment GOP

The GOP would be fine with her winning
Link Posted: 1/3/2016 2:32:31 PM EDT
The party establishment will come through the election just fine regardless of the identity of the winner, just as it did in 2008 and 2012.


Link Posted: 1/3/2016 2:50:50 PM EDT
the party establishment is going to be fine. they are the loyal opposition and really do nothing and have done nothing since reagan(who banned the manufacture of new machineguns in exchange for the right  to travel with a product that was legal where it came from and where it went to) and established the precedent of amnesty. we have had no new taxes bush and ban the import of  certain types of weapons. we had a break for the clintons which allowed everyone to forgot what a bunch of pansies the republican establishment really is. and then right back to a bush famed for the donut hole and caring conservatism. add a list of wars that we have never fought to win and we got obama.
now we have a president who doesnt even worry about the law anymore because he can make an executive decision and it will stay pass a law and the congress will rubber stamp it before reading it, the courts will twist meanings and talk about foriegn laws needing consideration. whoever the next president is hillary in all probability and trump possibly will be able to rule the country like a kingdom demanding any legislation they want be passed in the name of national security and the good of the people.i am afraid of both of them if people were making a living and times were good neither would electable.
i havent been a republican since clintons second term and i will never be again. none of the politicians are trustworthy and they are no longer afraid of the people. right now the pendulum swings very wideand on both sides they want obedience and will stop at nothing to get it.
Link Posted: 1/3/2016 4:17:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TUMOR:
If Hillary is the next President......the true loser will be the Establishment GOP.

The GOP has had majorities in both houses of Congress and has done very little to thwart the Liberal Democrat agenda.
Boehner,Ryan and McConnell have not only sold us out but in my mind have reinforced the liberal Democrat agenda AND encouraged its base!

I believe that the GOP turnout in November has already been hurt by the actions of Boehner, Ryan and McConnell and will continue if the trio of pussies continue to sell us out.
I have fought the tinfoil thoughts for a long time.......but I'm beginning to think that maybe there ARE some puppet masters behind the scenes pulling those cords!
Trump's success is just one example of why the right is fed up with the status quo!

I believe.......that IF Hillary is coronated......the GOP is done!
What motivation would I have to support the "Grand" Old Party again?........the promise that "We will get Conservative again next time! We promise!"?
I am already hearing this same attitude from guys who are no where near as savvy about politics as we are......and I don't blame them.
At state and local GOP meetings I have voiced this concern since Bob Dole was the candidate!.......and I consistently get the face in response......
And I keep hearing those voices in my head......"Maybe the GOP establishment has already sold out and they are just playing YOU for a fool!"
If Hillary walks through the White House doors as President....I think the GOP is finished!
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This is the GOPs last big shot at the White House. If they can't do it this time it will be lost to them forever. They would be smart to put a little more thought into who they run. Jeb, Romney, and McCain were born to lose.
Link Posted: 1/3/2016 4:54:52 PM EDT
Well, read this. http://change.gov/agenda/iraq_agenda/
And then multiply the thought process times 5.
Link Posted: 1/3/2016 4:55:35 PM EDT
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Any day now the GOPe is going to come to several conclusions in rapid succession, assuming they haven't already.

1. Jeb isn't going to be the nominee.
2. Neither is anyone else they approve of.
3. Hillary Clinton is the best candidate they have.
4. They're in a position to get her elected.

I'm starting to think vice president Sanders and a 50/50 senate is a distinct possibility too.

ETA- 110, that's not checkmate.
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This ^^^  

Somebody doesn't chess much.  

Link Posted: 1/3/2016 5:08:25 PM EDT
Even though Congressional Republicans have had majority control in the House & Senate they still have lacked the necessary 2/3rds majority to overturn presidential vetos.

You can blame them as much as you can but it's as simple as that.

The Founding Fathers set up a system of checks and balances.
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This is the GOPs last big shot at the White House. If they can't do it this time it will be lost to them forever.
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Do you ever wonder whether those same words were uttered in January 1940?
How about in January 1944? Perhaps in January 1948?
Link Posted: 1/3/2016 5:23:28 PM EDT
We are truly at a tipping point.  Everyone must get out and vote for anyone but Clinton.  The establishment GOP has let us down, no question.  Vote the bastard RINOs out at every chance and replace them with constitutionalists.  The sick liberals have damn near gutted the 1st, 2nd and 10th amendments.  There has to be another chance for the GOP to put things right, if they can find their balls and act like true conservative leaders. It may be very distasteful to vote for who ever gets the GOP nomination, but this country won't survive another year of an American hating liberal demorat.  The Snake and his attorney general will attempt do to all they can to destroy what's left of the 2nd amendment and the two pieces of shit aren't going to waste any time doing it.  And that gutless Ryan and McConnell better file suit the minute the Snake puts his pen to paper.  God help us and America.
2016 years since our founding and look where we are.  Instead of the king of England, we have a Snake in the White House forcing us to buy health insurance whether we like it or not and now going after our guns.  Jefferson, Madison and Washington, to name a few, have got to be crying.  Franklin said it best; "we have given you a Republic, if you can keep it".
Link Posted: 1/3/2016 5:33:39 PM EDT
6 in 1 hand, half a dozen in the other.



Sure there are individuals in the party that are truly conservatives but there isn't enough of them to feild a basketball team.
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the party establishment is going to be fine. they are the loyal opposition and really do nothing and have done nothing since reagan(who banned the manufacture of new machineguns in exchange for the right  to travel with a product that was legal where it came from and where it went to) and established the precedent of amnesty. we have had no new taxes bush and ban the import of  certain types of weapons. we had a break for the clintons which allowed everyone to forgot what a bunch of pansies the republican establishment really is. and then right back to a bush famed for the donut hole and caring conservatism. add a list of wars that we have never fought to win and we got obama.
now we have a president who doesnt even worry about the law anymore because he can make an executive decision and it will stay pass a law and the congress will rubber stamp it before reading it, the courts will twist meanings and talk about foriegn laws needing consideration. whoever the next president is hillary in all probability and trump possibly will be able to rule the country like a kingdom demanding any legislation they want be passed in the name of national security and the good of the people.i am afraid of both of them if people were making a living and times were good neither would electable.
i havent been a republican since clintons second term and i will never be again. none of the politicians are trustworthy and they are no longer afraid of the people. right now the pendulum swings very wideand on both sides they want obedience and will stop at nothing to get it.
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I really like when people who have been on this site for over 14 years, with a post count as low as yours, have something so simple and eloquent to say. You should post more.

(Not sarcastic)
Link Posted: 1/3/2016 5:42:33 PM EDT
Nope. We the People lose.
Link Posted: 1/3/2016 5:51:57 PM EDT
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The GOPe doesn't see it that way at all.

In their eyes; the worst possible outcome is a Donald Trump victory in the upcoming general election.

They'd much rather see Hillary win than a Republican Party win with Trump.

There's plenty of personal power for those perpetually engaged in playing the role of "the opposition party".
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Yup, especially the taxpayer. The gun owner. The average joe.
Link Posted: 1/3/2016 6:05:06 PM EDT
I expect low voter turnout for Hillary.  My extended family is mixed and the democrats find her unacceptable
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We are truly at a tipping point.  Everyone must get out and vote for anyone but Clinton.  The establishment GOP has let us down, no question.  Vote the bastard RINOs out at every chance and replace them with constitutionalists.  The sick liberals have damn near gutted the 1st, 2nd and 10th amendments.  There has to be another chance for the GOP to put things right, if they can find their balls and act like true conservative leaders. It may be very distasteful to vote for who ever gets the GOP nomination, but this country won't survive another year of an American hating liberal demorat.  The Snake and his attorney general will attempt do to all they can to destroy what's left of the 2nd amendment and the two pieces of shit aren't going to waste any time doing it.  And that gutless Ryan and McConnell better file suit the minute the Snake puts his pen to paper.  God help us and America.

2016 years since our founding and look where we are.  Instead of the king of England, we have a Snake in the White House forcing us to buy health insurance whether we like it or not and now going after our guns.  Jefferson, Madison and Washington, to name a few, have got to be crying.  Franklin said it best; "we have given you a Republic, if you can keep it".
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You vote for who you want to.



http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/12/michael-bloomberg-declares-his-friend-jeb-bush-the-best-gop-candidate/







 
Link Posted: 1/3/2016 6:13:13 PM EDT
That's what I think. Hillary would preserve the GOP in the short run: people will vote GOP out of pure, amoral survival impulse in order to frustrate her impending doom-legislation because anything must be done to preserve their lifestyles. In the long run, the GOP dies; because the anti-establishment, populist, alt-right impulse behind Trump gets bigger and bigger.
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