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Posted: 10/13/2004 1:56:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 1:57:13 PM EST by Dragracer_Art]
Long story short...

Several years ago I worked for a union shop. I lost all respect for the union environment when I learned that a percentage of my union dues were contributed to Democrats... The effort to stop this was futile, and without effect. I was eventually laid-off and my position was filled by a less qualified, under-acheiver dirtball who had more seniority than I had. The majority of the plant was staffed with decent people, but those who were most able to benefit from the union were the lazy useless fucks, elderly, and minorities throughout the company.
So that's my history with the union... (So I thought)

Since my lay-off in Jan '02, I've received dozens and dozens of "Steel Labor" news letters, and countless Democrat campaign flyers.
Being frustrated and angry over all this garbage in my mailbox, I sent this email to the Pittsburgh union headquarters:

From: Dragracerart
To: <webmaster@uswa.org>
Subject: Steelabor mailing list.
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 12:29:28 -0400

Please REMOVE my name and address from your "Steelabor" mailing list. I'm sick and tired of seeing this Liberal Democrat garbage in my mailbox. Unions suck, and are good for nothing but promoting laziness, and protecting jobs for minorities and unqualified individuals. I haven't been employed by a union shop in over 3 years, and will NEVER work in a union environment again. Nothing like paying union dues, and having them distrubuted/donated to a communist/democrat political campaign.

Member # xxxxxx
Xxxxx Xxxxxxx
### Xxxxxx Xxx.
Xxxxxxx, XX #####




I suppose I probably could have worded it better...


Anyway...

The latest pile of junk mail from them now has MY WIFE'S NAME on it, in addition to mine. Some is addressed directly to her, some to me, and some to both....
The mail all originates from the same place, so I'm inclined to think someone is making a concious effort to do this... How else did my wife's name get on the literature ??? She's NEVER worked for a union. She hasn't even held a job for several years...
I know some unions like to employ mob tactics, and harass companies, individuals, etc....

Is someone trying to fuck with me ???
Am I being paranoid ?

I understand some union guys have had a good experience with organized labor... To date I have NOT, and refuse to work for a union shop.

Just looking for some input, or constructive criticism...

How do I get these fuckers out of my mailbox and off my back ? (Before I "go postal" on them)


Link Posted: 10/13/2004 1:57:56 PM EST
Why not let them waste their (the workers) money?


Start using the prepaid envelopes to mail shit back to them.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 1:59:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Why not let them waste their (the workers) money?


Start using the prepaid envelopes to mail shit back to them.



Everything I get from them is in the form of a newsletter/newspaper, or political flyers...
Nothing to send back or I would have....
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:00:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 2:00:57 PM EST by fight4yourrights]
Good for starting fires in the fireplace?



Could box it all up, when you get enough, have the dog piss on it, and drop it off at a local union headquarters.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:00:43 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:01:25 PM EST
Do any of them contain “postage paid” envelopes?
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:01:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 2:01:45 PM EST by fight4yourrights]

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:

If they are nearby (meaning within 100 miles) I would accumulate it for a while, then drive to their facility and drop it on THROW IT ALL OVER the floor, saying, "I specifically asked you to not send this crap to me." After a few times, even the most dedicated Socialist will catch on.




Fixed it for ya.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:02:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
If they are nearby (meaning within 100 miles) I would accumulate it for a while, then drive to their facility and drop it on the floor, saying, "I specifically asked you to not send this crap to me." After a few times, even the most dedicated Socialist will catch on.



NOT a bad idea...
I already told the wife to start saving this crap...
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:03:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:

If they are nearby (meaning within 100 miles) I would accumulate it for a while, then drive to their facility and drop it on THROW IT ALL OVER the floor, saying, "I specifically asked you to not send this crap to me." After a few times, even the most dedicated Socialist will catch on.




Fixed it for ya.



Hehe... I like that idea even better...
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:03:28 PM EST
sounds like the union i was in when i worked for the local county jail. only good it was for was to get perks for the local union steward. all complaints went unheeded or was told i shouldn't work there cause i made waves.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:04:53 PM EST
That's a mob tactic?

I thought a mob tactic was more along the lines of what I see on the Sopranos.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:05:09 PM EST
You could sign them up for junk mail, magazine offers, etc...

computer printed mailing labels make it easy


Tit for Tat.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:06:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 2:07:52 PM EST by Dragracer_Art]

Originally Posted By Lonewalker:
sounds like the union i was in when i worked for the local county jail. only good it was for was to get perks for the local union steward. all complaints went unheeded or was told i shouldn't work there cause i made waves.



I know exactly what you mean....

I definitly didn't fit-in that union shop...
I usually had more work done in one hour than most of my co-workers did the whole shift...

"That's not my job" is a common and well used phrase in a union shop...
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:07:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
You could sign them up for junk mail, magazine offers, etc...

computer printed mailing labels make it easy


Tit for Tat.



Bed wetting.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:07:55 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sub-MOA:
Do any of them contain “postage paid” envelopes?



this is the best idea. use their envelopes and send them pro Bush stuff to them in their envelopes
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:08:04 PM EST
Wait till you get a good amount of it saved up and then write return to sender on it and send it back all at one time.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:09:04 PM EST
Dragracer_art
Anywheres around Pittsburg? Been working in the steel industry for a month and a half now and hate it just as much. I beleive unions to have been good to correct wrongs, but I now see them as creating wrongs. Hate my job and the union and hate the fact I am a wage whore.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:09:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By operatorerror:
That's a mob tactic?

I thought a mob tactic was more along the lines of what I see on the Sopranos.



I'm still waiting for that...
They actually replied to my email and asked for my home phone number... Yeah, OK I'll send it to you fuckers...NOT
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:10:28 PM EST
Can you put "RETURN TO SENDER" across the front to get them charged for return postage?
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:10:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By mpearcex:

Originally Posted By Sub-MOA:
Do any of them contain “postage paid” envelopes?



this is the best idea. use their envelopes and send them pro Bush stuff to them in their envelopes




Do you guys actually READ a thread before posting?


That was my 1st question, the answer is no, they don't send them.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:11:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By MrKasab:
Dragracer_art
Anywheres around Pittsburg? Been working in the steel industry for a month and a half now and hate it just as much. I beleive unions to have been good to correct wrongs, but I now see them as creating wrongs. Hate my job and the union and hate the fact I am a wage whore.



Nah, I'm in the Philly lazy-belt area... The union headquarters are in Pittsburgh though...
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:12:01 PM EST
Art, I'd say just let it come and keep throwing it out. The fact is it costs them to print that crap and mail it to you, so why try to save them money? They'll just use it to fund the political career of another gun-banning democrat. Let them waste money sending you their crap and use the scrap paper for the fireplace.

BTW - sorry you didn't make it to Paul's - we gotta get together soon and burn some ammo.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:13:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By mpearcex:

Originally Posted By Sub-MOA:
Do any of them contain “postage paid” envelopes?



this is the best idea. use their envelopes and send them pro Bush stuff to them in their envelopes




Do you guys actually READ a thread before posting?


That was my 1st question, the answer is no, they don't send them.



Actually, I tend to ignore your posts...
Is that a bad thing?
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:13:44 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:14:49 PM EST
the email was a little confrontational. Did you try asking them nicely first?
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:15:52 PM EST
Just remember...Everything the union sends helps support the USPS and therefore delays the next postal increase.

I have also "heard" that IF one had a postage paid envelope...and one attached it to something REALLY HEAVY(like a brick)...then the party paying the postage would be paying a lot of postage and further supporting the USPS and therefore delaying the next postal increase.

I have also heard one can mark post items..."return to sender." Good Luck
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:17:33 PM EST
I actually got a union handout a few days ago saying how Kerry would protect our second ammendment rights along with union familys. My non-union, republican supervisor threw them all away, I suspect. But then again, since he beleives the law should translate the constitution, mabey he actually is pro RKBA.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:18:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By shaggy:
Art, I'd say just let it come and keep throwing it out. The fact is it costs them to print that crap and mail it to you, so why try to save them money? They'll just use it to fund the political career of another gun-banning democrat. Let them waste money sending you their crap and use the scrap paper for the fireplace.

BTW - sorry you didn't make it to Paul's - we gotta get together soon and burn some ammo.



I think I'll let it pile-up, and when I have a big boxfull, I will visit the union local headquarters... Maybe I will end up with a $300 littering fine...


We def gotta do some shooting again... Haven't seen you guys in awhile...
The race car is for sale, and will replaced with C3 toys soon...

I know I know... "You told me so"
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:19:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By Steve_T_M:
the email was a little confrontational. Did you try asking them nicely first?



I guess you don't know me very well...
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:21:28 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:31:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By Striker:

Originally Posted By Dragracer_Art:
The race car is for sale,


Not again??? Damn I still miss the pics of your black 2nd gen.



I just can't get over how much money I waste on hotrods... I'll bet I've dumped $100k into toys (cars) over the last 20 years... Fun ? YES, but not smart from a financial standpoint...
If I had spent that same money on Class3 firearms, I'd have a nice retirement fund...
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:34:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 2:35:33 PM EST by wetidlerjr]

Originally Posted By tisfortexas:
Can you put "RETURN TO SENDER" across the front to get them charged for return postage?



Sure, they just won't get it.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:41:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dragracer_Art:

Originally Posted By Lonewalker:
sounds like the union i was in when i worked for the local county jail. only good it was for was to get perks for the local union steward. all complaints went unheeded or was told i shouldn't work there cause i made waves.



I know exactly what you mean....

I definitly didn't fit-in that union shop...
I usually had more work done in one hour than most of my co-workers did the whole shift...

"That's not my job" is a common and well used phrase in a union shop...




As opposed to doing 7 days of work in 5 in a non union shop.
Still having to come in for 8 hours on saturday to do sombody elses job cause your boss dont like to get his paddys dirty and step outside of his air conditioned cubie.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:57:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dragracer_Art:

If I had spent that same money on Class3 firearms, I'd have a nice retirement fund...



And if you had invested it in IRAs, mutual funds, CDs and whatnot for the past 20 years, you'd have an even BIGGER retirement fund...
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 4:12:30 PM EST
I suppose you could get a restraining order banning them from any contact with you or your family, then see what happens - at least you could make some $$$ if they don't comply, becuase of "mental anguish"...
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 4:18:06 PM EST
Go down to the local swifty mark. Buy a couple few really dirty porn mags. Sign up the union headquarters for as many yearly memberships that you can tear out.

We did this to on eof the bosses at work.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 4:29:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By 3-7INFANTRY:
Go down to the local swifty mark. Buy a couple few really dirty porn mags. Sign up the union headquarters for as many yearly memberships that you can tear out.

We did this to on eof the bosses at work.



Good one!

Throw some gay porn in their to really freak them out. Send MO too, dont use a CC cause then they can prove you did it. Might be an obscenity charge in their somewhere.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 5:20:12 PM EST
I hate unions. AFSCME has taken over where I work and they are messing things up badly.

GunLvr
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 5:25:23 PM EST
Cocksucking unions... They're idea of 'careful consideration of our offer' was to destroy our job site to try and get us to see it their way... Unions are the root of all evil in America and a breeding ground for Democrats.
fuckers, I'm sorry but if you're in the Carpenters union you should be shot. This is coming from quite a bit of personal experience, by the way....
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:06:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By luger355:

Originally Posted By Dragracer_Art:

Originally Posted By Lonewalker:
sounds like the union i was in when i worked for the local county jail. only good it was for was to get perks for the local union steward. all complaints went unheeded or was told i shouldn't work there cause i made waves.



I know exactly what you mean....

I definitly didn't fit-in that union shop...
I usually had more work done in one hour than most of my co-workers did the whole shift...

"That's not my job" is a common and well used phrase in a union shop...




As opposed to doing 7 days of work in 5 in a non union shop.
Still having to come in for 8 hours on saturday to do sombody elses job cause your boss dont like to get his paddys dirty and step outside of his air conditioned cubie.



Don't worry, for guys like you, we just oursource what YOU think is YOUR job to BFE for pennies on the $, and higher quality to boot.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:07:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dragracer_Art:

Originally Posted By shaggy:
Art, I'd say just let it come and keep throwing it out. The fact is it costs them to print that crap and mail it to you, so why try to save them money? They'll just use it to fund the political career of another gun-banning democrat. Let them waste money sending you their crap and use the scrap paper for the fireplace.

BTW - sorry you didn't make it to Paul's - we gotta get together soon and burn some ammo.



I think I'll let it pile-up, and when I have a big boxfull, I will visit the union local headquarters... Maybe I will end up with a $300 littering fine...


We def gotta do some shooting again... Haven't seen you guys in awhile...
The race car is for sale, and will replaced with C3 toys soon...

I know I know... "You told me so"



Show up at their office with several EBRs and go postal.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:20:08 PM EST
Just offer to mail them back some fresh cat shit.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:21:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 6:21:54 PM EST by fight4yourrights]

Originally Posted By Sub-MOA:


Actually, I tend to ignore your posts...
Is that a bad thing?




Sure about that? You read this one
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:34:30 PM EST
I love it when i'm driving down the freeway in my new F-350 with my bush sticker and I pass guys in there POS 500 dollar cars with the "Live better work union" and Kerry stickers.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:46:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By GunLvrPHD:
I hate unions. AFSCME has taken over where I work and they are messing things up badly.

GunLvr



+1 AFSCME is the only union I've been in that has aggressivily fought to keep my wages under the national standard. I operate a 16 megawatt hydro electric plant and make $3 more per hour than a Highschool dropout dope smokin laborer
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:59:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dragracer_Art:
From: Dragracerart
To: <webmaster@uswa.org>
Subject: Steelabor mailing list.
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 12:29:28 -0400

Please REMOVE my name and address from your "Steelabor" mailing list.

Member # xxxxxx
Xxxxx Xxxxxxx
### Xxxxxx Xxx.
Xxxxxxx, XX #####



There, fixed it for ya...that's how you SHOULD have written it...the badmouthing in the email was unnecessary and only serves to egg them on to fuck with you even more...
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 5:30:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By tangeant:

Originally Posted By GunLvrPHD:
I hate unions. AFSCME has taken over where I work and they are messing things up badly.

GunLvr



+1 AFSCME is the only union I've been in that has aggressivily fought to keep my wages under the national standard. I operate a 16 megawatt hydro electric plant and make $3 more per hour than a Highschool dropout dope smokin laborer



Where I work they want everyone to get equal "merit pay" increases. Merit pay where I work is used to keep good employees from leaving. If it's distributed equally then the lousy workers get a nice raise and the good workers get no incentive to stay. I don't mind a smaller salary since I work for the .gov but I do mind AFSCME making things worse while they write $10 mill checks to Kerry and Dean.

GunLvr
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