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That is way too long for a rant but I agree. It's all according to the plan.
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Keeping the poor is what the .gov wants. Poor = votes = control
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I was taught as a Christian to have compassion for the poor. But to each his own I guess.
Carry on with your hate. |
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Your Ben Franklin meme, proves that what we are dealing with today is a fool's errand that is as old as government.
IMO, there is no way to fix this problem through elections or politcal rhetoric, it will take a complete reboot to have any chance of sane policy to come about. |
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cliff notes, its in the bible and Ben said it so Kill all poor people?
I didn't read it, this is GD I am just here for the leg humping pictures |
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Sorry man, didn't read.
I will throw in that our poor here in the states aint like poor everywhere else. (Speaking to the choir, yeah) |
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Quoted: I have compassion for the truly needy. Fuck the poor. There's a difference. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I was taught as a Christian to have compassion for the poor. But to each his own I guess. Carry on with your hate. I have compassion for the truly needy. Fuck the poor. There's a difference. +100 |
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I have compassion for the truly needy. Fuck the poor. There's a difference. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I was taught as a Christian to have compassion for the poor. But to each his own I guess. Carry on with your hate. I have compassion for the truly needy. Fuck the poor. There's a difference. The democrats demonize the rich you people demonize the poor. Sickening really. |
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I was taught as a Christian to have compassion for the poor. But to each his own I guess. Carry on with your hate. View Quote If we helped the poor get out of poverty (like the quote from Ben above by not giving them as much), then you wouldn't have to waste near as much of your compassion as there would be fewer needing it. Logic ftw |
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Yeah, why can't our poor get by with assistance like those rugged boot-strap-pullers who get nothing from their government in India? http://www.vagobond.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/indian_poor.jpg Seriously, though, I think we need a balance of programs that encourage those who are poor to move up to a sustainable income and have very stringent rules for further assistance (serious disability, etc). View Quote Those folk work! See the begging? That's working! No Feet kicked up on the coffee table watching Maury and collecting a check! They are working! |
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I love that you equate poor with "not willing to work" and then spin a massive strawman filled rant.
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Yeah, why can't our poor get by with assistance like those rugged boot-strap-pullers who get nothing from their government in India? http://www.vagobond.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/indian_poor.jpg Seriously, though, I think we need a balance of programs that encourage those who are poor to move up to a sustainable income and have very stringent rules for further assistance (serious disability, etc). View Quote Those people are held down by a caste system. America is still the land of equal opportunity, too many just choose to take the easy route because it still puts food on the table, that's just LAZY. |
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I'm pretty sick of them too. That's really the only reason I like the lottery. That and excise taxes on smokes and booze are pretty much the only taxes they pay.
Nowhere on Earth at any time in human history has a "regular person" had more opportunity than the modern USA. |
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Sorry, I did not read that wall of text.
I'm sure it was racist if it disparaged the poor. With posts like that it's a small wonder it took the OP thirteen years to hit 48K posts. |
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I was taught as a Christian to have compassion for the poor. View Quote Compassion - yes, willing to help those to are willing to work and improve their situation? Absolutely. However that does not translate to keep giving and giving to those who choose not to work and choose to remain a burden for others. |
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If we helped the poor get out of poverty (like the quote from Ben above by not giving them as much), then you wouldn't have to waste near as much of your compassion as there would be fewer needing it. Logic ftw View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I was taught as a Christian to have compassion for the poor. But to each his own I guess. Carry on with your hate. If we helped the poor get out of poverty (like the quote from Ben above by not giving them as much), then you wouldn't have to waste near as much of your compassion as there would be fewer needing it. Logic ftw The OP is talking about people who are using the system illegally and lumping all of the poor into the same category. I assume the rich feel the same about the middle class with all of our freebies and entitlement that we receive such as government backed home loans, government grants for college and student loans etc, etc. The country is being torn apart by the liberals/progressives in charge and I want no part of the class warfare they have started. Carry on with your hate brother. |
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Quoted: I was taught as a Christian to have compassion for the poor. But to each his own I guess. Carry on with your hate. View Quote Compassion != compulsory income tax collected via gunpoint. You got a problem with the Apostle Paul's admonition on how we should treat people unwilling to work? Did Jesus have compassion on the "brood of vipers" (i.e. politicians of his day)? |
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Were it not for the idle loiterers who will not work, poverty would be exceedingly rare in America. |
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The "poor" is what Liberals call able-bodied idle loiterers, i.e. those not willing to work. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I love that you equate poor with "not willing to work" and then spin a massive strawman filled rant. The "poor" is what Liberals call able-bodied idle loiterers, i.e. those not willing to work. Bullshit. You've got this idea in your head that the poor are all welfare queens. Try actually going out and meeting poor people. Folks who make shit, but are working every day to provide food for their family. Folks who have trouble making ends meet because if their car breaks down, they not only have to pay for the repair, they have to miss work, not get paid, and risk getting laid off. Folks who try to save, but have little left over after paying for food, rent, and utilities. Edit: You don't like the stereotypical welfare queen. Awesome, neither do I. Where you fucked up, and created some retarded strawman, is by saying that poor people as a whole conform to that stereotype. |
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I read it.
But I am poor too and have worked all my life and am workiing into my retirement. So just don't equate my kind of poor with the FSA and we will get along just fine. I am also happy. Don't want a BMW and don't want someone to mow my yard or clean my house. My bills are paid and my family knows how to make a living. All things said, I am rich in ways that others aren't. Now back on topic. |
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Quoted: The OP is talking about people who are using the system illegally and lumping all of the poor into the same category. I assume the rich feel the same about the middle class with all of our freebies and entitlement that we receive such as government backed home loans, government grants for college and student loans etc, etc. The country is being torn apart by the liberals/progressives in charge and I want no part of the class warfare they have started. Carry on with your hate brother. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I was taught as a Christian to have compassion for the poor. But to each his own I guess. Carry on with your hate. If we helped the poor get out of poverty (like the quote from Ben above by not giving them as much), then you wouldn't have to waste near as much of your compassion as there would be fewer needing it. Logic ftw The OP is talking about people who are using the system illegally and lumping all of the poor into the same category. I assume the rich feel the same about the middle class with all of our freebies and entitlement that we receive such as government backed home loans, government grants for college and student loans etc, etc. The country is being torn apart by the liberals/progressives in charge and I want no part of the class warfare they have started. Carry on with your hate brother. I guess there were too many words in my post for you to open-mindedly consider. Carry on with your ignorance brother. |
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I'll try and keep this short to sort of give my general position on this whole socialism our nation so enjoys.
Socialism, it's message and everything it stands for, will always be attractive to poor people or people who don't want to work. The reason is because it promises to give them something, whatever something is, that they either do not currently have or will be more of what they have. Politicians will preach this message in the name of inequality among people of the nation. It is nothing more than redistribution of wealth through force of law. We will ALWAYS have poor people all over the world, so therein lies the problem that socialism's message will likely be around for a long while. Now with that said and being a member of arfcom for a while, I do appreciate the capitalism allows for anyone to create and build real wealth. Capitalism is a cold-hearted and ruthless bitch however since competition can become so cutthroat. This is of course good for the consumer and ideally companies should have a great deal of leeway in allocating their resources to exploit whatever they need in order to churn out more product at x price, hopefully driving that price lower. Here's the problem with capitalism however and team members can easily search our archives to see plenty of examples, but I'm going to focus on just one... a while back a member here was out on FML leave from his company to stay home with his newborn child. From a company's point of view, that employee is now gone and they get no work out of him and must keep him on the payroll. Many members gave him a piece of their mind and stated he should be expected to be fired upon returning since he took nearly the entire 12 weeks allowed by law. Maybe he should have only taken 2-3? A woman giving birth? Yeah, she needs all that time, but a father? Debatable....perhaps. Moments like this don't come very often for a lot of people...yeah yeah I know FSA breed out a new kid every damn year...I'm talking normal people who want to work. Without this law, yes, technically the company doesn't owe this guy anything except payment for hours worked. For every company out there that tends to treat their employees like shit and runs them through a grinder with bosses incapable of understanding that sometimes accidents happen or you were late dropping your kids off to school, or God forbid you actually set goals in your life with your spouse to have a child that is the greatest miracle for you both to ever experience, this creates another person with the mindset of "socialism sounds ok to me" especially if that message is a mandatory 1-2 months paid leave for all businesses. |
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Someone doesn't make a bunch of money, but is mostly self-sufficient? I have no problem with them at all.
Someone CHOOSES that lifestyle when they're physically capable of working? Yep, we gots problems. |
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Didn't read the rant. Can someone tally up the number of fucks, shits, and God dammits, so I can properly render a score?
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Compassion - yes, willing to help those to are willing to work and improve their situation? Absolutely. However that does not translate to keep giving and giving to those who choose not to work and choose to remain a burden for others. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I was taught as a Christian to have compassion for the poor. Compassion - yes, willing to help those to are willing to work and improve their situation? Absolutely. However that does not translate to keep giving and giving to those who choose not to work and choose to remain a burden for others. Did you willingly accept a government backed home loan or student grants of any kind? if not I am sure you know of some who have. Please tell me the difference because taking from others isn't right just because you have a job and make $70k a year. |
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Quoted: Bullshit. You've got this idea in your head that the poor are all welfare queens. Try actually going out and meeting poor people. Folks who make shit, but are working every day to provide food for their family. Folks who have trouble making ends meet because if their car breaks down, they not only have to pay for the repair, they have to miss work, not get paid, and risk getting laid off. Folks who try to save, but have little left over after paying for food, rent, and utilities. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I love that you equate poor with "not willing to work" and then spin a massive strawman filled rant. The "poor" is what Liberals call able-bodied idle loiterers, i.e. those not willing to work. Bullshit. You've got this idea in your head that the poor are all welfare queens. Try actually going out and meeting poor people. Folks who make shit, but are working every day to provide food for their family. Folks who have trouble making ends meet because if their car breaks down, they not only have to pay for the repair, they have to miss work, not get paid, and risk getting laid off. Folks who try to save, but have little left over after paying for food, rent, and utilities. I was there pal, and not for long. I help people who need help, but I have righteous anger at the jackals who hide among them stealing what doesn't belong to them and who hide their greedy, lazy reckless irresponsible selves behind the faces of needy children. Those are the majority of "the poor" today. Go ask those people have trouble making ends meet to show you their cellphone. Ask them to show you their TV. Ask them to show you what they drive, how much they smoke or drink. Ask them to show you their MONTHLY BUDGET! And if they don't have one - take a whole evening of your time and sit down with them and go through their last six months of bills and teach them how to make a budget. You will be fucking AMAZED at what they waste their money on. |
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....................... Bullshit. You've got this idea in your head that the poor are all welfare queens. Try actually going out and meeting poor people. Folks who make shit, but are working every day to provide food for their family. Folks who have trouble making ends meet because if their car breaks down, they not only have to pay for the repair, they have to miss work, not get paid, and risk getting laid off. Folks who try to save, but have little left over after paying for food, rent, and utilities. Edit: You don't like the stereotypical welfare queen. Awesome, neither do I. Where you fucked up, and created some retarded strawman, is by saying that poor people as a whole conform to that stereotype. View Quote It has been my experience that if asked whether poor people are energetic or lazy............I answer "lazy". YMMV. |
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Try actually going out and meeting poor people. Folks who make shit, but are working every day to provide food for their family. Folks who have trouble making ends meet because if their car breaks down, they not only have to pay for the repair, they have to miss work, not get paid, and risk getting laid off. Folks who try to save, but have little left over after paying for food, rent, and utilities. View Quote In other words, people that suck at decision making. I meet them every day. |
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I do take issue with the poor owning fancy cellphones and stuff like that. Contrary to popular belief you don't actually need a smartphone to get by in life.
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