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Posted: 9/2/2005 4:35:12 AM EDT
I never ridiculed the guys in the survival forum, but I quietly thought of them as being just a bit odd. No more. This is my public apology for my private indifference to freely offered wisdom.

I got a queasy feeling yesterday afternoon, and called my wife and told her to fill the car and keep it full. I called my son at college and told him to fill his and his fiancee's vehicles, buy 2 5-gal gas cans, and use his monster truck (2 X 20 gal tanks) as a fuel reserve for her little car. I told him to go get non-perishable food and water, and be ready to bug out to my cousin's farm in Alabama or back here. The little guy and I picked up $300 worth of non-perishables yesterday.

Get this: I walk into the house at 6 PM and the electricity flips off for about 2 secs. I get to the grocery store and IT'S RUNNING ON EMERGENCY GENERATORS. The lights came back on, and I have no idea what the problem was. My boy and I are gathering canned goods, 20 lb bags of rice, et c., and watching people buying frozen dinners and ice cream.

I spent the evening cleaning rifles and loading mags. Free advice: go examine your guns. NOW. I would probably have gotten one shot out of my AR before the fouling seized it up. I just tossed it in the locker after the last God-knows-how-many trips to the range. I ain't doing that again.

There's probably no disaster in the offing here, 500+ miles from NO, but I am not getting caught like this ever again. Survival guys, you're right. The rest of us are clowns. Every single minute, we're 24 hours from Dawn of the Dead.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 4:39:22 AM EDT
Nah, you're not an ass. You are situationally aware and making preparations.

Carry on.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 4:42:00 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 4:48:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/2/2005 4:49:04 AM EDT by SanTifiQue]
i hear ya.....but im way up here in South Dakota and it seems the only thing we need to stock on is GAS!



its pathetic seeing these bigger cities going uncontoled.

the funny thing is if it happened in our comunity 98% sure that we would all have eachothers back!

i like my city of 130,000!

BUT! i do have about 700+ .223
200+ .40 200+ 357, and .38sp

and enough shotties to take over a small country!

edited:

your not an ass its human nature!
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:04:30 AM EDT
Blinded by the light...

Welcome to our world.

Bob
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:08:35 AM EDT

FLAL1A,

Nobody is born aware or prepared. The important thing is you are now awake and lucid. Glad to hear you're making preps. Come over and spend some time on the SF-- we've been happy to have an influx of new faces over there.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:11:22 AM EDT
+1
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:12:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By red_on_black:
FLAL1A,

Nobody is born aware or prepared. The important thing is you are now awake and lucid. Glad to hear you're making preps. Come over and spend some time on the SF-- we've been happy to have an influx of new faces over there.

Tin foil hats not required
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:18:04 AM EDT
Don't sweat it. Anyone with common sense eventually comes to this epiphany eventually.

For me it was when I realized I spend MANY thousands of dollars per year on different insurance plans - Life, Health, Cars, Boat, Home, Liability - but that I couldn't provide my family with clean drinking water or food or shelter in the event of a catastrophe.

It's just insurance. We're not kooks, we just want to keep our families safe.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:18:49 AM EDT
Sigh, nothing ever happens in NJ.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:19:13 AM EDT
You just demonstrated the ability to learn from the experience of others.

So many in this country today lack even the ability to learn from their OWN experience.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:24:02 AM EDT
one very good way to be prepared is to not live in or around large urban areas, especially in areas that have large populations of indigents and persons on welfare roles.

it is that and not living in areas that WILL eventually have a disaster (flood plains, down stream from earthen dams, earthquake fault lines, coastal areas known to have hurricanes and probably a few others) that people should be doing..

the levees were known to have a cat 3 limit.. NO is 5 feet below sea level, occassionally cat 5 hurricanes hit the gulf coast. when the levee breaks NO will flood.

do the math....

the best preparedness is just to not be there in the first place....
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:26:04 AM EDT
"Survival" isn't about gear or *stuff* as much as it is about mindset.

It's thinking things through and acting appropriately. For instance, I have absolutely NO need to prepare for a hurricane, but could very easily face the effects of other extreme scenarios such as earthquake. (Even more likely is a heart attack, kids getting sick, or someone having a car accident. But that's another discussion... )

But mostly, it's realizing that "civilization" as we know it is a thin veil that could be stripped away at any moment, and all the comforts and conveniences we have come to take for granted may be gone.

Then what are you gonna do for yourself, your family, and your neighbors?
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:26:15 AM EDT
Welcome to the fold.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:26:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BayEagle:
Don't sweat it. Anyone with common sense eventually comes to this epiphany eventually.

For me it was when I realized I spend MANY thousands of dollars per year on different insurance plans - Life, Health, Cars, Boat, Home, Liability - but that I couldn't provide my family with clean drinking water or food or shelter in the event of a catastrophe.

It's just insurance. We're not kooks, we just want to keep our families safe.



+1. It makes me cry just to think about having to look at my wife and explain that we have nothing to eat and no clean water. Good Lord! Can you imagine how you'd feel with your family looking at you when you failed to provide?
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:29:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By LUGERMAN:
Sigh, nothing ever happens in NJ.




And thats the way we want it to be. Unless it's getting rid of the libs in some type of fashion : )
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:33:23 AM EDT
You'll never be able to shop at Sam's Club or Costco the same way again.

"Another case of water would be cool... and then we should get another couple cases of soup... Another case of propane cylinders... Oh look, knockoff Camelbaks for $15..."

Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:34:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/2/2005 5:37:56 AM EDT by captainpooby]
I have been a "closet" survival forum guy for a while, feeling somewhat like you do about the place while at the same realizing the possibility of disaster here in Fl is real.
I have kept a 'minor' supply of items in case of need but that will be changing now. I am jumping on the wagon and coming out baby!!
Water filter! BOBs 1,2 and 3! More food stocks! More MREs! More ammo!
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 5:36:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By LUGERMAN:
Sigh, nothing ever happens in NJ.



Actually, the hurricane that started me on the road to becoming a whacko, gun-nut, survivalist was the "Perfect Storm" storm that was off the coast on 10/30/91.

We lived on West 17th St in Ocean City, NJ on the water and had taken my baby daughter to CHOP in Philly for surgery the day before.

We drove back to the Shore in the storm and were greeted with a roadblock at the bridge into OC. After explaining our situation (and because I had a Blazer 4x4 at the time) , the cops let us through.

When I got to the house, our exterior steps were flooded to the fourth step, about 2-3ft deep. I ran upstairs and grabbed the baby's meds, formula, clothes and diapers and ran back down as the water was starting to get into the truck. We then drove back out and over the bridge. The police had even BO'd by then.

We drove out to Cape May Courthouse and stayed with friends til the flooding receded. Caring for a post-surg infant when you're not at home is a bitch.

Scary shit. I vowed not to get caught in a storm without the basics again.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 3:42:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By macman37:
You'll never be able to shop at Sam's Club or Costco the same way again.

"Another case of water would be cool... and then we should get another couple cases of soup... Another case of propane cylinders... Oh look, knockoff Camelbaks for $15..."




And batteries!!

Who DOESN'T need another 50 AA batteries?

Link Posted: 9/2/2005 3:45:02 PM EDT
Only took a few hurricanes to get my ass in gear.

Andrew was my wake up call. I did ok considering but I sure as hell wasn't ready.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 3:53:57 PM EDT
I have always been reasonably prepared, mostly because I hate relying on someone else for what I should have done myself. My wife has just let me go on and rolled her eyes a bit. I notice she does not do that anymore as it has sunk in finally that ones family is in a world of S--T if one expects other to prepare for them. Real daddys and fathers do not loot, they are prepared beforehand with staples and a way to defend them and family.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 4:02:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
Only took a few hurricanes to get my ass in gear.



ditto

Mucho dry stores, H2O and ammo. And I don't have any tinfoil either.....
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 4:06:12 PM EDT
ehhh

I'll just shoot all the looters and take their stuff
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 4:15:52 PM EDT
I'm not a "full-blown" survivalist.......being active duty military limits many potential preparations I might make otherwise. I am single so that simplifies things somewhat......But its basic wisdom to make realistic preparations for anything.............Lessons learned from the hurricane...........even if you NEVER get hit by one NEVER EVER underestimate human nature...........people are capable of sickness far worse then some of us ever imagined. One day - everything is happy go lucky where you live - as it sort of was in New Orleans..........the next day women and children are being raped and murdered in broad daylight, looters - some in uniform - raid stores out of greed - not even NECESSITY!!.........

Anyone who ASSUMES America is perfectly civilized hasnt seen what Americans are capable of - not real Americans - the SHEEPLE..........Anyone who doesn't own a quality rifle and at least a case of ammunition is a fool.

BTW - we can all thank the "Nanny State" mindset among other things for the reaction to this disaster...........generations brought up to suck off the governments tit will react violently when not provided with free food, free water, and free lodging.......

Folks - you have all just witnessed the end result of modern liberalism and socialism.........now just imagine if the entire COUNTRY was hit with a disaster.........social programs are WRONG - anyone who doesnt understand this now is a fucking idiot
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 4:17:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DScott:

Originally Posted By macman37:
You'll never be able to shop at Sam's Club or Costco the same way again.

"Another case of water would be cool... and then we should get another couple cases of soup... Another case of propane cylinders... Oh look, knockoff Camelbaks for $15..."




And batteries!!

Who DOESN'T need another 50 AA batteries?




I get all the batteries I want for free!!!! YEAH!!!
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 4:19:15 PM EDT
SF was the reason I joined ARCOM!!!
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 4:20:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/2/2005 4:21:59 PM EDT by recoiljunky]

Originally Posted By ken_mays:
You just demonstrated the ability to learn from the experience of others.

So many in this country today lack even the ability to learn from their OWN experience.



Shit.


I wanted to say something smart on my own, but you hit the nail on the head; so I must:

<­BR>



+1
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 4:21:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By a320az:

Originally Posted By DScott:

Originally Posted By macman37:
You'll never be able to shop at Sam's Club or Costco the same way again.

"Another case of water would be cool... and then we should get another couple cases of soup... Another case of propane cylinders... Oh look, knockoff Camelbaks for $15..."




And batteries!!

Who DOESN'T need another 50 AA batteries?




I get all the batteries I want for free!!!! YEAH!!!




(At the next BA meeting)

Me: "Hi! I'm DScott and I'm a battery-aholic!"

Group: "Hi, DScott!"

Leader: "Now for our speaker. Everybody say hi to a320az!"

Group: "Hi, a320az!"

Link Posted: 9/2/2005 4:24:26 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 4:42:34 PM EDT
No you are not an A$$ but someone that has had reality provide the motivation to look beyond the moment, I do not post over in the survival forum much but I do have ample stores and such for a full blown New Orleans bug out.

I am a flashlight O’ Hollic and due to recent events have provided insights for my family on why I have prepared as such.

Link Posted: 9/5/2005 4:40:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bag_Man:
SF was the reason I joined ARCOM!!!



+ a few thousand...


Link Posted: 9/5/2005 4:46:33 PM EDT
I always trolled through the survival forum, reading a lot but not doing a whole lot. I always figured that in an emergency, since I'm emergency personnel, there's no point in being prepared at home, since I won't be home.

I've changed that a lot. I'm actively making much more preparations now, and re-re-reading "Lights Out."
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 4:48:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FLAL1A:

Originally Posted By BayEagle:
Don't sweat it. Anyone with common sense eventually comes to this epiphany eventually.

For me it was when I realized I spend MANY thousands of dollars per year on different insurance plans - Life, Health, Cars, Boat, Home, Liability - but that I couldn't provide my family with clean drinking water or food or shelter in the event of a catastrophe.

It's just insurance. We're not kooks, we just want to keep our families safe.



+1. It makes me cry just to think about having to look at my wife and explain that we have nothing to eat and no clean water. Good Lord! Can you imagine how you'd feel with your family looking at you when you failed to provide?



FLA, that's a big reason why I have a stash. I can survive on my own, but I have a wife and two little men to protect and care for. I need the extra food and supplies, just incase, because you never know, and I don't want to ever let them down.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 4:53:18 PM EDT
My family is now getting 4 mags loaded with TAP along with some MRE's...

Link Posted: 9/5/2005 5:49:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2005 5:55:40 PM EDT by napalm]

Originally Posted By Bag_Man:
SF was the reason I joined ARCOM!!!













Link Posted: 9/5/2005 6:01:49 PM EDT
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