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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:06:11 AM EDT
[#1]
Well, I definitely don't like any ideas of reparation at all. So, in a way, winners always have to pay losers money every time the reparation issues are discussed. |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:10:07 AM EDT
[#2]
I don't understand.
Even though slavery is/was an abomination, at the time IT WAS LEGAL. |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:11:57 AM EDT
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Since none of my ancestors ever owned or profited from the ownership of slaves in America, I refuse to pay. Simple as that.
In fact, since I am of Swedish descent, and a direct descendant of the Vikings, and the Vikings spent many a year tormenting and enslaving Europeans, maybe the plaintiffs in this suit should pay ME something. After all, my great great great great........great great grandpappy probably enslaved the great great great great.....great grandpappy of somebody that owned African slaves. |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:15:35 AM EDT
[#4]
We're already paid, and we're going to pay more.
Might as well get something out of it. I really believe they will blackmail some money out of someone. Courts are SO corrupted........ |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:17:36 AM EDT
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Quoted: Since none of my ancestors ever owned or profited from the ownership of slaves in America, I refuse to pay. Simple as that. In fact, since I am of Swedish descent, and a direct descendant of the Vikings, and the Vikings spent many a year tormenting and enslaving Europeans, maybe the plaintiffs in this suit should pay ME something. After all, my great great great great........great great grandpappy probably enslaved the great great great great.....great grandpappy of somebody that owned African slaves. I just hung up from talking with my man, Messy Jesse, and he agreed that YOU owe ALL the reparations. We decided we might as well go straight to the source. Please call your relatives and notify them. Hehe. [:D] |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:18:44 AM EDT
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No reparations, no way, no how, for one simple reason....
The US has a policy of not negotiating with terrorists. And this reparations blackmail is nothing more than political terrorism. If we pay them off, EVERYONE is gonna blackmail the US for money. The people who harmed others are dead. The people harmed are dead. Let it go. Your reparations are found in the ability to go out, get a job, and WORK to make yourself wealthy. |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:20:13 AM EDT
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[b]In 1911,[red] [url=http://stills.nap.edu/btw/Vol.1/html/430.html]Booker T. Washington[/url][/red] wrote: "There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs - partly because they want sympathy, partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. I'm afraid that there is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public."[/b] |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:23:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: [b]In 1911,[red] [url=http://stills.nap.edu/btw/Vol.1/html/430.html]Booker T. Washington[/url][/red] wrote: "There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs - partly because they want sympathy, partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. I'm afraid that there is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public."[/b] You're just showing off what you learned in Black History Month, aren't you? [:D] |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:24:54 AM EDT
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I say we buy them a boat ticket to anywhere in Africa, and give them 40 acres and a mule over there and call it good.
This would only be for those that wanted to go, and any that stay. Assimilate. |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:26:01 AM EDT
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Quoted: You're just showing off what you learned in Black History Month, aren't you? [:D] But it's a DAMN good quote, ain't it? [:D] |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:27:53 AM EDT
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Quoted: But it's a DAMN good quote, ain't it? [:D] Absolutely. You did good. |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:31:06 AM EDT
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This will happen:
Realizing that they won't win, by suing the US Government, they are now going after Companies that somehow profited from slavery. These companies will of course appeal the inevitable results, all the way to the Supreme Court. The courts will shoot the suits down. The lawyers will then try to find descendents of slave owners (who are rich), and sue them, hoping that their lawyers aren't as skilled as the corporate lawyers. |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:31:12 AM EDT
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Quoted: my great great great great........great great grandpappy probably enslaved the great great great great.....great grandpappy of somebody that owned African slaves. my ancestors come from all over northern, western and eastern europe, and i figure at one time or another each group enslaved, and was enslaved by, some other group. so i have two choices. choose what parts of my body to smack, or forget it and move on. maybe i'll just pay myself reparations, and have done with it. |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:34:29 AM EDT
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[b]
Quoted: [b]In 1911,[red] [url=http://stills.nap.edu/btw/Vol.1/html/430.html]Booker T. Washington[/url][/red] wrote: "There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs - partly because they want sympathy, partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. I'm afraid that there is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public."[/b] How true is it!! Basically the people who have brought up the issue of reparation have 3 goals: political gains, quick money, and sympathy. You don't hear the hard-working, honest people say it, but you hear from the people who hold some kind of "public title". To me they are just a parasite. |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:42:06 AM EDT
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I'm all for it...minus rebates for years of welfare, food and lodging (jails, salvation army), car repairs (car jacking, drunken driving), destruction of cities (busing, crackheads, property values), and the destruction of the english language, etc...seems somebody now owes me, if they want to play that way. (Not a racist, but not PC either, call 'em as I see 'em and dont think one should wear color on their sleeve).
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:47:28 AM EDT
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Worth re-posting (and keeping in the "Quotes" file)
Quoted: [b]In 1911,[red] [url=http://stills.nap.edu/btw/Vol.1/html/430.html]Booker T. Washington[/url][/red] wrote: "There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs - partly because they want sympathy, partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. I'm afraid that there is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public."[/b] T_M - If I wasn't me, I'd want to be you! [}:D] |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:49:12 AM EDT
[#17]
Now I'm confused , does this mean that one part of me must pay the other part of me because one of my ancestors use to keep one of my other ancestors as a slave ? And what of the the native ameran part of me ? What do I ge for that part ? Given my genetic makep below can anyone tell me what I'm 'entitled' too ?[>:/]
40% African 30% Caucasian 20% Native American |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:54:28 AM EDT
[#18]
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Quoted: Now I'm confused , does this mean that one part of me must pay the other part of me because one of my ancestors use to keep one of my other ancestors as a slave ? And what of the the native ameran part of me ? What do I ge for that part ? Given my genetic makep below can anyone tell me what I'm 'entitled' too ?[>:/] 40% African 30% Caucasian 20% Native American Mortech, if it is the case, you get 30%.[:D] Wait a minute, where is your other 10%? |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:57:41 AM EDT
[#19]
Now wait a moment ! NOTHING for hte Native American side ?!? I'm gonna cry and call my congressman ![>(]
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:59:25 AM EDT
[#20]
he's an amputee.....
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Posted: 3/29/2002 6:18:53 AM EDT
[#21]
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Quoted: Now wait a moment ! NOTHING for hte Native American side ?!? I'm gonna cry and call my congressman ![>(] Well, I figure you collect 40%+20%-30%=30%, but I still have to decide where your other 10% genetic makeup before I cut you another check.[:D] |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 6:32:33 AM EDT
[#22]
I'm going to file a lawsuit against the manufacturers of the .50 cal M2 machinegun and the manufacturers of the P-15D Mustang fighter. You see, it seems that a young U.S. Army Aircorps pilot strafed my non-combatant father during WWII. Not only did this violent oppression scare the livin' puh-jeezus out of my father, it has also caused me great emotional distress.
Since I can't sue the U.S. government and win... I'll just pick on the BIG MEAN and EVIL corporations. Did I mention that my lawyers says that corporations have - what he calls - "deep pockets"? No, I've got a better one: I'm going to sue my alma mater, because they knew that ignorance is bliss and yet they educated me! |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 7:00:00 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted: I just hung up from talking with my man, Messy Jesse, and he agreed that YOU owe ALL the reparations. We decided we might as well go straight to the source. Please call your relatives and notify them. Hehe. [:D] Cool! Looks like we're all off the hook! My only remaining relatives are three broke brothers and my dad. I doubt seriously that dad will cut them a check, so it's up to us broke guys to pay up. Looks like they're getting SQUAT! |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 7:03:34 AM EDT
[#24]
I'm Swedish, Norwegian, Polish & German. Can I sue myself for the German occupation of Poland & Norway? [rolleyes]
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Posted: 3/29/2002 7:20:02 AM EDT
[#25]
Can the descendants of Sally Hemmings (the ones from her and T. Jefferson) sue themselves?
Their insurance companies would pick up the tab... |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 7:21:21 AM EDT
[#26]
Let's sue the producers of "Soul Train" for bad taste.
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Posted: 3/29/2002 7:31:39 AM EDT
[#27]
I have a few things to say about this whole thing. You know there are a lot of Talk Shows about this very subject. And I don't understand why African Americans are so pissed off.
1)Their own people sold them into Slavery. 2)In Africa,they still breed people for Slavery. 3)If anything,we have given all African Americans a hell of a better life than what they would have back in Africa. 4)The African Americans should be pissed off at their own country for betraying them as they did. 5)The last actual SLAVE died a few years ago. 6)None of the African Americans in this day and time are slaves. 7)If they are so unhappy here,then hell yeah,maybe they should go back to their homeland. Cause it's nothing like the United States of America. And at least here they would have a chance to better themselves. 8)No one is forcing them to stay here. Okay,there's my 2 cents. Lady_of_the_wolf |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 7:55:21 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted: No reparations, no way, no how, for one simple reason.... The US has a policy of not negotiating with terrorists. And this reparations blackmail is nothing more than political terrorism. If we pay them off, EVERYONE is gonna blackmail the US for money. I agree with you 110% garandman! Tyler |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 2:07:03 PM EDT
[#29]
Do you think they will accept payment in copper?
[50] |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 2:21:43 PM EDT
[#30]
I just don't understand where these people get the idea that they are owed something just because they are born. If their ancestors were wronged too bad get over it.
If anyone is owed something its the 100,000+ white guys who DIED trying to stop slavery! |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 2:26:03 PM EDT
[#31]
Right now they are trying to shake down corporations. Only if they are successful there will they try for bigger game. The tobacco settlement is funding this to parlay the power of attorneys to alter the course of government and rival the power of the media. Class action is generally a rip-off. It has some benefits if the litigators are altruistic but the general payoff for the individual is a gift certificate while the attorneys reap a bonanza.
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Posted: 3/29/2002 2:28:54 PM EDT
[#32]
Have to agree with Garandman too , I also worked with Africans while I lived in Germany and NONE of them wanted to go back there ! Oh for the record I consider myself an American first , last and only .
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Posted: 3/29/2002 2:44:51 PM EDT
[#33]
Only if I get to keep my black rifles and mags marked SLAVE....I don't know.....since everyone is pushing for their "rights" on this issue, I might also want to be able to buy some more with all the evil features!
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Posted: 3/29/2002 3:18:48 PM EDT
[#34]
I think some of you are giving this sham far more attention than it deserves. It is a non-issue.
The people pushing this agenda have no intention of getting reparations. Even if a case could be made, an actual policy is unimplementable and they know it. This is a made up issue designed to stir the pot. It uses the age old divide and conquer technique. You get a few poor afro-Americans all riled up, and you get the rednecks all riled up = Power for Mr. Shakedown and his lackies. Racism still exists, but most of the key issues were resolved 30 years ago. Its not 1960 anymore, and they have to do something to keep the gravy train going. |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 3:47:16 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted: We're already paid, and we're going to pay more. Might as well get something out of it. I really believe they will blackmail some money out of someone. Courts are SO corrupted........ And that, my friends, IS the TRUTH... Well put... |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 4:02:26 PM EDT
[#36]
Lady of the wolf is exactly right!!!
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Posted: 3/29/2002 4:34:23 PM EDT
[#37]
Its a rip off.
Anyway I'll never pay and why should I? My ancestors came over on the bananna boat like so many others, worked hard, never had any slaves, so I don't give a flying damn if 'reparations' are ever paid. Did I make myself clear? [smoke] |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 4:38:52 PM EDT
[#38]
I would agree to repatriations. [;)]
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Posted: 3/29/2002 5:06:48 PM EDT
[#39]
Hey I just voted for two choices? The normal radio buttons changed into check mark boxes. How did that happen?
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Posted: 3/29/2002 6:23:05 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted: Hey I just voted for two choices? The normal radio buttons changed into check mark boxes. How did that happen? Allowing multiple answers is a feature that is set when the user sets up the poll. I decided it would be more fun to allow multiples. |
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Posted: 3/29/2002 6:36:35 PM EDT
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These lawsuits are a joke and they will be thrown out in court. You cannot sue over something that was legal at the time it happened. If they could prove that the companies used slaves after slavery was abolished then they would have a case. But since slavery ended at the time it was abolished there is no grounds for the suit and it should not take a judge much time to throw this out.
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