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Posted: 12/18/2010 6:22:44 AM EDT
The CMP already got the Denmark and Greece Garands, but there are still many more out there. The CMP Chief Operating Officer stated a couple of weeks back that at the current rate of sale they will be completely sold out in 4 years if they do not receive any more Garands.

Argentina: Received about 30,000 M1s from the U.S. government before 1964. Some were converted to accept BM59 magazines in the 1960s.
Brazil: Received large numbers of M1s from the U.S. government in the early 1950s. Some were converted to the 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge and to accept FN FAL magazines
Cambodia: Received M1 rifles from the U.S. government.[51]
Denmark - Received 69,810 M1 rifles (designated "Gevær m/50") from the U.S. government prior to 1964. Some were converted to the 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge.[52]
Also purchased 20,000 M1s from Italy.[53] The rifle has now been phased out of service.
Ethiopia: Received 20,700 M1 rifles from the U.S. government in the 1960s.[52]
France - Used by the Foreign Legion and Free French Forces.[54][55] France also received 232,500 M1 rifles from the U.S. government in 1950-1964.[52]
West Germany: Received 46,750 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1965.[52]
Greece: Received 186,090 M1 and 1880 M1C/M1D rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[52] Still in use for ceremonial duties by the Presidential Guard.
Indonesia: Received between 55,000 and 78,000 M1s and a minor number of M1Cs from the U.S. government prior to 1971; some rifles also supplied from Italy.
Iran: Received 165,490 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1964.[52]
Israel: Received up to 60,000 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[52]
Italy: Used by the army from 1945. Beretta license-built 100,000 M1s from 1950 until the adoption of the BM59 in 1959.[53]
Also received 232,000 M1s from the U.S. government between 1950 and 1970.
Jordan: Received an estimated 25,000-30,000 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1974.[52]
Japan: A number were manufactured by Howa for the Japan Self-Defense Forces after World War II.[56]
Laos: Received 36,270 M1 rifles from the U.S. government in 1950-1975.[52]
Norway: Received 72,800 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1964.[52]
Pakistan: Received possibly 150,000 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[52]
Paraguay: Received 30,750 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[52]
Philippines: Received 34,300 M1 and 2630 M1D rifles from the U.S. government in 1950-1975.[52]
Saudi Arabia: Received 34,530 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[52]
South Korea: Received 296,450 of M1 rifles from the U.S. government in 1964-1974.[52]
South Vietnam: Received 220,300 M1 and 520 M1C/M1D rifles from the U.S. government in 1950-1975.[52]
Thailand: Received about 40,000 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1965.[52]
Turkey: Received 312,430 M1 rifles from the U.S. government in 1953-1970.[52]
United States: Standard issue rifle of the U.S. Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force from 1936 to 1963. Still in use for official military ceremonies and ROTC units.
Venezuela: Received 55,670 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[52]
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 6:25:12 AM EDT
[#1]
As of a couple of years ago the Turks were still using theirs.  Saw some conscripts walking the fence line carrying them.
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 6:27:36 AM EDT
[#2]
"Our" government should get them all back......................and then give them out FREE to anyone that wants one.Taxpayers paid for them.

Amazing the amount of money and stuff they give away to other countries.

I wouldn't mind a BM 59 or one that takes FAL mags to add to my little collection.
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 6:28:47 AM EDT
[#3]



Quoted:


The CMP already got the Denmark and Greece Garands, but there are still many more out there. The CMP Chief Operating Officer stated a couple of weeks back that at the current rate of sale they will be completely sold out in 4 years if they do not receive any more Garands.



Argentina: Received about 30,000 M1s from the U.S. government before 1964. Some were converted to accept BM59 magazines in the 1960s.

Brazil: Received large numbers of M1s from the U.S. government in the early 1950s. Some were converted to the 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge and to accept FN FAL magazines

Cambodia: Received M1 rifles from the U.S. government.[51]

Denmark - Received 69,810 M1 rifles (designated "Gevær m/50") from the U.S. government prior to 1964. Some were converted to the 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge.[52]

Also purchased 20,000 M1s from Italy.[53] The rifle has now been phased out of service.

Ethiopia: Received 20,700 M1 rifles from the U.S. government in the 1960s.[52]

France - Used by the Foreign Legion and Free French Forces.[54][55] France also received 232,500 M1 rifles from the U.S. government in 1950-1964.[52]

West Germany: Received 46,750 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1965.[52]

Greece: Received 186,090 M1 and 1880 M1C/M1D rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[52] Still in use for ceremonial duties by the Presidential Guard.

Indonesia: Received between 55,000 and 78,000 M1s and a minor number of M1Cs from the U.S. government prior to 1971; some rifles also supplied from Italy.

Iran: Received 165,490 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1964.[52]

Israel: Received up to 60,000 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[52]

Italy: Used by the army from 1945. Beretta license-built 100,000 M1s from 1950 until the adoption of the BM59 in 1959.[53]

Also received 232,000 M1s from the U.S. government between 1950 and 1970.

Jordan: Received an estimated 25,000-30,000 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1974.[52]

Japan: A number were manufactured by Howa for the Japan Self-Defense Forces after World War II.[56]

Laos: Received 36,270 M1 rifles from the U.S. government in 1950-1975.[52]

Norway: Received 72,800 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1964.[52]

Pakistan: Received possibly 150,000 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[52]

Paraguay: Received 30,750 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[52]

Philippines: Received 34,300 M1 and 2630 M1D rifles from the U.S. government in 1950-1975.[52]

Saudi Arabia: Received 34,530 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[52]

South Korea: Received 296,450 of M1 rifles from the U.S. government in 1964-1974.[52]

South Vietnam: Received 220,300 M1 and 520 M1C/M1D rifles from the U.S. government in 1950-1975.[52]

Thailand: Received about 40,000 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1965.[52]

Turkey: Received 312,430 M1 rifles from the U.S. government in 1953-1970.[52]

United States: Standard issue rifle of the U.S. Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force from 1936 to 1963. Still in use for official military ceremonies and ROTC units.

Venezuela: Received 55,670 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[52]



I have shot one of the bm59s (arfcomer has one) and it really is nice, very nice break/flashhider on it controls muzzle climb excellently



lets hope more come back
 
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 6:30:08 AM EDT
[#4]
Are those guns all WWII-era milsurp?  Or did we give them new production rifles?
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 6:30:34 AM EDT
[#5]
I don't think we'll get them back from Venezuela anytime soon.
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 6:32:08 AM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


I don't think we'll get them back from Venezuela anytime soon.


We might they are using AK103's now



 
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 6:34:04 AM EDT
[#7]
that is a lot of rifles out there....
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 6:35:19 AM EDT
[#8]
someone call Turkey

Turkey: Received 312,430 M1 rifles from the U.S. government in 1953-1970.[52]
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 6:41:03 AM EDT
[#9]



Quoted:


Are those guns all WWII-era milsurp?  Or did we give them new production rifles?


I dont believe many were made after the war, and seeing as we built 6 million of them, there were a few surplus ones...
 
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 6:48:10 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Are those guns all WWII-era milsurp?  Or did we give them new production rifles?



There was about 1.4 million made between 1952 and 1956.
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 6:50:26 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Are those guns all WWII-era milsurp?  Or did we give them new production rifles?

I dont believe many were made after the war, and seeing as we built 6 million of them, there were a few surplus ones...


 


I know they were made durring the Korean war, I have one from SA
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 6:52:29 AM EDT
[#12]
At last notice, nothing will come back to us if bitch Hitlery has her way.
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 6:58:06 AM EDT
[#13]
And how many are IHCs?

The thought is that we gave away the IHCs due to the GI perception that they wern't made by a gun co so they might not be as good.
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 7:03:13 AM EDT
[#14]
Count on Isreal to sell back the M-1's at 5 times the cost.
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 7:08:32 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Quoted:
Are those guns all WWII-era milsurp?  Or did we give them new production rifles?

I dont believe many were made after the war, and seeing as we built 6 million of them, there were a few surplus ones...


 


I know they were made durring the Korean war, I have one from SA


Picked up an HRA through the CMP three years ago made during the Korean War.
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 7:10:48 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Count on Isreal to sell back the M-1's at 5 times the cost.


I believe that the only Garands that they deal with are those that were loaned to foriegn entities.
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 7:15:13 AM EDT
[#17]



Quoted:


someone call Turkey



Turkey: Received 312,430 M1 rifles from the U.S. government in 1953-1970.[52]


Here Turkey Turkey, here Turkey Turkey......
Sorry, they didn't respond



 
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 7:15:38 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Count on Isreal to sell back the M-1's at 5 times the cost.


I believe that the only Garands that they deal with are those that were loaned to foriegn entities.




Kinda like when you "loan" money to friends or family...............

Link Posted: 12/18/2010 7:15:45 AM EDT
[#19]
The real question is what was the "deal" when the rifles went to them.
With the Greek and Danish it was a lease lend program, and they did not want to renew the lease or keep borrowing them.
Or giving to them as foriegn aid, or did they buy them at cost. Like Israel does now with the M16s
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 7:17:20 AM EDT
[#20]



Quoted:


At last notice, nothing will come back to us if bitch Hitlery has her way.


Remember the giant batch that was supposed to be bought back from S. Korea earlier this year that the Obongo administration axed the resale.



 
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 7:21:44 AM EDT
[#21]



Quoted:


someone call Turkey



Turkey: Received 312,430 M1 rifles from the U.S. government in 1953-1970.[52]






 
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 7:26:05 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:

Quoted:
At last notice, nothing will come back to us if bitch Hitlery has her way.

Remember the giant batch that was supposed to be bought back from S. Korea earlier this year that the Obongo administration axed the resale.
 


Those would not have gone to CMP.   They were OWNED by Korea, not LOANED as noted above.  They were being sold to a USA distributor.

Lend-Lease items don't need State Dept. approval as "we" still own them.
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 7:27:30 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:

Quoted:
At last notice, nothing will come back to us if bitch Hitlery has her way.

Remember the giant batch that was supposed to be bought back from S. Korea earlier this year that the Obongo administration axed the resale.
 


Those were purchased by SK and they wanted to export them to the US.  The Greek ones for example were loaned to them and returned to the US.
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 7:32:23 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Quoted:
At last notice, nothing will come back to us if bitch Hitlery has her way.

Remember the giant batch that was supposed to be bought back from S. Korea earlier this year that the Obongo administration axed the resale.
 


Those would not have gone to CMP.   They were OWNED by Korea, not LOANED as noted above.  They were being sold to a USA distributor.

Lend-Lease items don't need State Dept. approval as "we" still own them.


Exactly, CMP is in charge of distribution. What is charged is more like a handling charge.
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 3:59:42 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
someone call Turkey

Turkey: Received 312,430 M1 rifles from the U.S. government in 1953-1970.[52]


Turkey still uses them and they will probably keep them in reserve for years to come. They only fairly receantly dumped most of the Mausers and Enfields they had.

Alot of the mil aid stuff is a return or destroy deal and destroying in place  is usually easier than paying to ship stuff back to the USA so alot of those Garands are most likely long gone....

Saddest thing I ever saw was a ravine full of burnt up F-84F & F-86's in Greece, push one to the edge light on fire put out fire push debris in ravine repeat process....




Link Posted: 12/18/2010 4:01:35 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
"Our" government should get them all back......................and then give them out FREE to anyone that wants one.Taxpayers paid for them.


Your newsletter, how do I subscribe?
Link Posted: 12/18/2010 4:02:38 PM EDT
[#27]
No, Hillary won't let them back in the country. Can't have those gangbangers getting their thumbs smashed.
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