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Posted: 6/9/2013 8:13:54 AM EST


Link Posted: 6/9/2013 8:19:09 AM EST
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This (D) along with Hope & Change - Yes We Can! - Change We Can Believe In - We are the ones we've been waiting for! - Forward! - means its just fine. Unless of course a Republican is elected in 2016.
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 8:22:05 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 8:29:17 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.


I merely used the name of the comic as the thread title. I (a libertarian) most certainly didnt vote for Obama.
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 8:30:45 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.


Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?

 
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 8:31:53 AM EST
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haha
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 8:50:13 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.

Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  


Not really. Its an entirely different philosophy. Liberals believe that they can use the Government to invoke their will onto others, while Libertarians believe people can make decisions on their own. This administration has not really done much for those issues either. I don't think that I should have to get permission from the government to marry the Woman I eventually decide to. Liberals would still justify the marriage license system. I would justify leaving it up to the church. I would justify the legalization of drugs on a fiscal conservative sense because it costs the average American family 2000 dollars a year and is an absolute failure. Liberals would justify it as a means to make more tax revenue. Amnesty I do not support, unless the person has something valuable that they bring to further aid a free society. Liberals are the other way around.

Look, either we live in a free country, where people are not treated like they are the children subjects of the government, or we don't. That is why so many libertarians say the mainstream Republicans and Democrats are the same. Don't believe me? Look at John McCain.
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 8:52:36 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.


After which, they put the zero in the White House.
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 8:55:10 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.


After which, they put the zero in the White House.


The GOP put Zero in the white house by putting a weak candidate up for election, two times in a row! It just wasn't going to work from the start.
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 8:58:26 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.

Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  


You received a ton of toys that were manufactured and painted in China as a child, didn't you?
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 8:59:42 AM EST
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umm..... i dont know a single freaking libertarian who voted for Obama for either term.....
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 9:02:51 AM EST
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i dont think the OP means (L)ibertarians--
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 9:07:27 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.



Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  



Classical liberalism isn't a bad thing.  Don't confuse it with misplaced usage when we refer to "Liberals" in regard to silly Democrats.


 
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 9:11:30 AM EST
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Just going by what my apologetic Zero worshipping neighbor says and acts about it all. He will simply change the subject and/or ask a hypothetical question instead of directly dealing with the questions. They worship him even more.
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 9:15:09 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.


Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  


you're so close.

 
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 9:15:57 AM EST
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..............Bush did it...............



theres your answer, also, the low info, FSA, upper middle class white O supporter will say that this nothing to do with O



amazing how he can distance himself from his own admin, incredible....and then fein outrage when HIS!! govt gets caught doing it.
the MSM is having a tough time protecting him though, as more leaks out.
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 9:27:14 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.


Too many here if you do not smile with enthusiasm while swallowing the National GOP's Dem-lite candidate's man jam you are a traitor.

Link Posted: 6/9/2013 9:27:15 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.

Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  


What a wonderful argument. You've convinced me to abandon my beliefs in liberty. I'll vote for a neofascist, statist, elitist republican when you run one again.
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 9:28:40 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.


Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  




You received a ton of toys that were manufactured and painted in China as a child, didn't you?


No, but the window sills in the old farmhouse I grew up in had flaking paint of which, I played with. What in my post was incoherent? All those things ARE the libertarian platform. Open borders, legalization of all drugs etc... My next post will be asking of your personal opinions on these issues to see where you align with the libertarian party.

 
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 9:31:27 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.

Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  


Obama has raided more legal pot grows in <5 years than Jr. raided in 8, the axe will soon fall on MJ entrepreneurs in Co. the war on drugs continues on and will do so right up until the nation collapses.  The only ones who give A shit about gay marriage are the Christian meddlers and they are going extinct, not fast enough IMO.

Link Posted: 6/9/2013 9:34:35 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.

Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  


Obama won't do either, and No I will never support Obama even if he did turn progun overnight
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 9:40:00 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.

Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  


You received a ton of toys that were manufactured and painted in China as a child, didn't you?

No, but the window sills in the old farmhouse I grew up in had flaking paint of which, I played with. What in my post was incoherent? All those things ARE the libertarian platform. Open borders, legalization of all drugs etc... My next post will be asking of your personal opinions on these issues to see where you align with the libertarian party.  


Yeah - immigration for people who have something to contribute to our country.

Until welfare is ELIMINATED, fuck open immigration. Actually, skill fuck open immigration for the criminals coming up from south of our border.
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 9:41:36 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.

Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  


Link Posted: 6/9/2013 9:42:49 AM EST
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I love what you are trying to do here OP, but you fail.

nice try on the bait tho.
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 9:56:44 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.


Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  
Ahh, you do understand that progressives did what they always have done. Once they trashed the term progressive with the American people, they stole the term "liberal" which indeed did mean libertarian (the ideology not the party).  It is a classic progressive method, take a word and define it as the opposite, then your opponents cannot use it against you.  When they say fair, they mean completely un-fair so as to make the outcome equal. When they say justice, they mean a perversion of justice so that those that achieve are punished and those that burden the system are elevated. Etc. etc., etc.





 
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 10:23:13 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.

Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  


You received a ton of toys that were manufactured and painted in China as a child, didn't you?

No, but the window sills in the old farmhouse I grew up in had flaking paint of which, I played with. What in my post was incoherent? All those things ARE the libertarian platform. Open borders, legalization of all drugs etc... My next post will be asking of your personal opinions on these issues to see where you align with the libertarian party.  


Your entire post was completely coherent. I'm not arguing that.

Was it anywhere near close to well thought out, or halfway intelligent? See, now there's where the debate starts.
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 10:34:08 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.

Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  


You received a ton of toys that were manufactured and painted in China as a child, didn't you?

No, but the window sills in the old farmhouse I grew up in had flaking paint of which, I played with. What in my post was incoherent? All those things ARE the libertarian platform. Open borders, legalization of all drugs etc... My next post will be asking of your personal opinions on these issues to see where you align with the libertarian party.  


Yeah - immigration for people who have something to contribute to our country.

Until welfare is ELIMINATED, fuck open immigration. Actually, skill fuck open immigration for the criminals coming up from south of our border.


You are not a libertarian unless you believe "economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders."
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 10:38:57 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.


Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  




You received a ton of toys that were manufactured and painted in China as a child, didn't you?


No, but the window sills in the old farmhouse I grew up in had flaking paint of which, I played with. What in my post was incoherent? All those things ARE the libertarian platform. Open borders, legalization of all drugs etc... My next post will be asking of your personal opinions on these issues to see where you align with the libertarian party.  




Yeah - immigration for people who have something to contribute to our country.



Until welfare is ELIMINATED, fuck open immigration. Actually, skill fuck open immigration for the criminals coming up from south of our border.




You are not a libertarian unless you believe "economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders."


Thank you sir. Libertarian platform dictates open borders to our friends south of the border. Many posters in this thread need to hug that nut or denounce their perceived reality of being a libertarian.

 
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 10:39:30 AM EST
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This must be referring to certain self-procalimed "libertarians" like Bill Maher
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 10:40:43 AM EST
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Thank you sir. Libertarian platform dictates open borders to our friends south of the border.


You mean like Marco Rubio?
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 10:46:14 AM EST
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Thank you sir. Libertarian platform dictates open borders to our friends south of the border.


You mean like Marco Rubio?


Marco Rubio and the Libertarian party are both wrong on the issues of immigration and border security.
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 10:47:55 AM EST
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umm..... i dont know a single freaking libertarian who voted for Obama for either term.....


Bill Maher?

 
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 10:49:29 AM EST
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Thank you sir. Libertarian platform dictates open borders to our friends south of the border. Many posters in this thread need to hug that nut or denounce their perceived reality of being a libertarian.  


Its because most who self identify as libertarian have never bothered to read the Libertarian Party Platform. For those of you that have read it, agree with it and registered as Libertarian my comments clearly are not directed at you. You have made an informed decision.

Link Posted: 6/9/2013 10:53:35 AM EST
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umm..... i dont know a single freaking libertarian who voted for Obama for either term.....


Bill Maher?  
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.



Bill Maher is a Liberal Democrat, nothing else.





 
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 10:57:08 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.


Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  






 
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 10:59:21 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.


Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  




You received a ton of toys that were manufactured and painted in China as a child, didn't you?


No, but the window sills in the old farmhouse I grew up in had flaking paint of which, I played with. What in my post was incoherent? All those things ARE the libertarian platform. Open borders, legalization of all drugs etc... My next post will be asking of your personal opinions on these issues to see where you align with the libertarian party.  
Go find where Obama is for legalizing drugs.  Has Nancy Pelosi ever said something in favor of it?  Feinstein?  Chuck Schumer?  Dick Durbin?  Any of the typical liberals?





 
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 11:18:09 AM EST
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I love what you are trying to do here OP, but you fail.

nice try on the bait tho.


Tons of you guys like to invent motives in other people's posts. I'm sharing a cartoon that made me chuckle.
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 11:21:37 AM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.

Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  


Link Posted: 6/9/2013 12:06:30 PM EST
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Thank you sir. Libertarian platform dictates open borders to our friends south of the border. Many posters in this thread need to hug that nut or denounce their perceived reality of being a libertarian.  


What else am I to call myself? A democrat? A republican? All of the above? None of the above?

Face it - there's not many options to chose and at some point you have to think for yourself and beg to differ on a couple of issues....
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 12:10:21 PM EST
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Thank you sir. Libertarian platform dictates open borders to our friends south of the border. Many posters in this thread need to hug that nut or denounce their perceived reality of being a libertarian.  


What else am I to call myself? A democrat? A republican? All of the above? None of the above?

Face it - there's not many options to chose and at some point you have to think for yourself and beg to differ on a couple of issues....


minarchist maybe?
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 12:11:06 PM EST
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Thank you sir. Libertarian platform dictates open borders to our friends south of the border. Many posters in this thread need to hug that nut or denounce their perceived reality of being a libertarian.  

Its because most who self identify as libertarian have never bothered to read the Libertarian Party Platform. For those of you that have read it, agree with it and registered as Libertarian my comments clearly are not directed at you. You have made an informed decision.






Feeling disenfranchised by the Republican Party, I started to identify With an alternative, (libertarian party) I went to their website, and found their views to me were absolute and extreme in a few areas I felt we're important in a civilized and moral society. So I guess I'm conservative and "libertarian leaning". Some of their views to me are counter intuitive. You are correct when it seems some here that claim to be libertarian are either

 















1. Unaware or ignorant of the true platform of the libertarian platform.





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2. Are disingenuous when it comes to articulating their true feelings describing their true moral compass, in order to legitimize libertarianism.
















Do yourself a favor and read the fucking platform, then come back and e-engage in conversation with an educated understanding.













Eta: the last paragraph/sentence is not focused onto the user of which I quoted.




 
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 12:14:04 PM EST
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I love what you are trying to do here OP, but you fail.

nice try on the bait tho.


what bait?

i see no bait. i see someone wondering if/why ACLU type folks still rabidly support obama.

Link Posted: 6/9/2013 12:57:32 PM EST
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Libertarians tend to favor an open border policy WITH a dismantled welfare state. People free to come here to improve their lives and to contribute by earning their own way.
Link Posted: 6/9/2013 12:57:52 PM EST
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Thank you sir. Libertarian platform dictates open borders to our friends south of the border. Many posters in this thread need to hug that nut or denounce their perceived reality of being a libertarian.  


What else am I to call myself? A democrat? A republican? All of the above? None of the above?

Face it - there's not many options to chose and at some point you have to think for yourself and beg to differ on a couple of issues....


Independent is the word you are looking for.
Link Posted: 6/10/2013 2:21:02 PM EST
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Thank you sir. Libertarian platform dictates open borders to our friends south of the border.


You mean like Marco Rubio?


Honestly? No

More like RINO leftwing progressive Jesse Ventura, Gary Johnson and demorat Barack Obama.

Libertarian Party on Immigration
Party Platform

Eliminate all restrictions on immigration
We welcome all refugees to our country. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age, or sexual preference. We therefore call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.


Rubio won't back immigration legislation without changes Border security provisions a must-have for senator's vote

Senator Paul says he's open to voting for immigration bill

Sen. Sessions: Immigration Reform in 'Jeopardy' After Vote Against Ban on Healthcare for Illegal Immigrants



Civil libertarians didn't say much about Obama's national healthcare enemies list either.

Not surprised they misrepresent Rubio.
Link Posted: 6/10/2013 2:27:38 PM EST
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So you're assuming that Libertarians approved of Obama in the first place? The two party system has made peoples critical thinking skills turn into dividing by zero.


Libertarian platforms, such as gay marriage, amnesty, legalization of drugs, et al, seem to go hand in hand with Obama and his agenda. Maybe that's why it is called, "libertarian" kind of reminds you of "liberal" don't it?  
That's funny, because I always thought both words were derived from the term, liberty.



It just so happens that the progressives stole the word liberal and convinced everyone it means progressive. This is why classical liberals stopped calling themselves liberals and started calling themselves libertarians.





 
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