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Posted: 2/24/2006 10:55:05 AM EDT
My reasons for wanting one are first that I'm Polish and I don't have any Polish guns and second that I can get one for $180. Perhaps these stupid reasons to want a gun, but I have bough guns for worse reasons.

Any reason why I shouldn't get one? Are they unreliable? Anybody have one?

I wouldn't mind if anyone posted pics of their P-64 either.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 11:05:15 AM EDT
Asking us if we'd get a gun without seeing its pic is like asking us if we'd screw some chick without seeing her pic.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 11:09:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/24/2006 11:09:46 AM EDT by freeride21a]

Originally Posted By injun-ear:
Asking us if we'd get a gun without seeing its pic is like asking us if we'd screw some chick without seeing her pic.



yeah.. im gonna have to go with injun-ear on this one. and im too lazy to google it.

1/4 polish here... Polish chicks are HOT.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 11:14:44 AM EDT
Nothing particularly special, but cool in it's own way.

Link Posted: 2/24/2006 11:17:27 AM EDT
Nahhh you want a PM63!!!!
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 11:18:13 AM EDT
Watch your hand webbing. Mine would just rip up my hand.

If I was going to get a Polish gun, it would be a Radom pistol. those are pretty cool.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 11:23:43 AM EDT
get a Baikal IJ-70 Schweet firearm and worthy
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 11:26:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Cape_hunter:
Nahhh you want a PM63!!!!
world.guns.ru/smg/pm63_2.jpg



I'd prefer a Pm-84 actually:

Link Posted: 2/24/2006 11:28:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/24/2006 11:29:16 AM EDT by Cape_hunter]

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By Cape_hunter:
Nahhh you want a PM63!!!!
world.guns.ru/smg/pm63_2.jpg



I'd prefer a Pm-84 actually:

img522.imageshack.us/img522/5968/p162ti.jpg



Too big!

I had a chance to fire a post sample 63. Neat little gun. Open bolt 9mm mak makes for a VERY controlable gun! Jumped up on my list of favorite FAs after that!
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 11:35:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By Cape_hunter:
Nahhh you want a PM63!!!!
world.guns.ru/smg/pm63_2.jpg



I'd prefer a Pm-84 actually:

img522.imageshack.us/img522/5968/p162ti.jpg




I want both...
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 11:42:54 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 11:43:51 AM EDT
Steve, they're not a Mak in quality of design - but they are a good shooter. I don't think you'll regret it if you buy one. Probably enjoy the hell out of it.

As was mentioned, if you have a big hand, watch that slide coming back when firing, it'll tear into the web between your thumb and index finger.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 11:52:02 AM EDT
Yes . . . you need to get one ! !

Believe me . . these are QUALITY built small frame autos. About the size of a Walther PPK. I liked my first one so well I bought a second one. Get one now before they are all gone.

Caliber of 9X18, or 9Mak. Mag holds six rounds. Both of mine have been 110% reliable with ball ammo (read reports that some people were having problems with the 115/120 grain HP ammo -- seems to be a little out of spec for length). Use Silver Bear, Brown Bear, Wolf, Chinese, etc -- all goes "BANG !" May be a little snappy in recoil, but if my 14 year old can shoot it you can too ! !

Only one minor problem -- the double action trigger pull must be 20 pounds ! !

However . . . . easy to fix ! ! !

Contact Wolff Gun Springs and order a 18 pound hammer spring for a Walther PP. Makes the double action pull sooooooooo much easier !

For the money these make GREAT -- and reliable -- pocket autos . . .

Link Posted: 2/24/2006 12:03:59 PM EDT
Are these DA/SA, or DA only?

Do they have a decocker?
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 12:23:32 PM EDT
DA/SA . . .

Safety (mounted on slide) works as a decocker also.

GREAT pocket autos ! ! !
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:10:11 PM EDT
Well made but have the absolute worst DA trigger I've ever felt.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:15:05 PM EDT
Kinda PPKish!

Link Posted: 2/24/2006 8:40:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BankerBilly:
Yes . . . you need to get one ! !

Believe me . . these are QUALITY built small frame autos. About the size of a Walther PPK. I liked my first one so well I bought a second one. Get one now before they are all gone.

Caliber of 9X18, or 9Mak. Mag holds six rounds. Both of mine have been 110% reliable with ball ammo (read reports that some people were having problems with the 115/120 grain HP ammo -- seems to be a little out of spec for length). Use Silver Bear, Brown Bear, Wolf, Chinese, etc -- all goes "BANG !" May be a little snappy in recoil, but if my 14 year old can shoot it you can too ! !

Only one minor problem -- the double action trigger pull must be 20 pounds ! !

However . . . . easy to fix ! ! !

Contact Wolff Gun Springs and order a 18 pound hammer spring for a Walther PP. Makes the double action pull sooooooooo much easier !

For the money these make GREAT -- and reliable -- pocket autos . . .




I just bought one and plan to do the fix BankerBilly posted. Here are a couple links for more info.
P 64
P 64 Index Page
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 8:43:57 PM EDT
I own one. Nice gun. Trigger pull out of the box is bad.
You will want to get the DA trigger pull lightened / smoothed. I did and I like the gun.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 11:01:20 AM EDT
On mine even the single-action trigger sucks, but it is nice to own a Polish weapon.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 1:11:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/25/2006 1:12:46 PM EDT by motown_steve]
Went and picked up my P64 today.

Boy, you guys weren't lying about the DA trigger on this thing. Fear not though, I have already ordered a new hammer spring from Wolff.

That's like a 50 lb. single action trigger pull! I wonder how those guys did it. Probably had to cock the hammer with their thumbs as they were drawing and then shoot.

ETA - Also...am I correct in assuming that this 1974 engraved on the slide indicates that the gun was manufactured in 1974?
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 1:35:42 PM EDT
I and 2 buddies got ours in yesterday from Classic Arms for 129.95 plus shipping. Great little guns.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:50:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dave_Markowitz:
Well made but have the absolute worst DA trigger I've ever felt.



Have you ever tried a M1895 Nagant revolver?
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 10:14:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RiffRandall:

Originally Posted By Dave_Markowitz:
Well made but have the absolute worst DA trigger I've ever felt.



Have you ever tried a M1895 Nagant revolver?



It (the P-64) is worse!
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