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Posted: 10/6/2012 1:20:35 PM EDT
...I can't bring myself to do it, as I don't currently have any guns in that caliber and it's stupid expensive to feed them with commercial ammo.    I want a FAL or a PTR badly.  For those of you who reload, how much is it costing you per round for 7.62?
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 1:25:14 PM EDT
[#1]
SAMCO Global has port for $0.35/rd.

Get a 7.62 rifle now, thank me later.
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 1:26:15 PM EDT
[#2]

I use Hornady A-Max bullets and I only buy 100 at a time and they are $27, Varget is about $19 a lbs and primers are $29 per 1000 so match ammo for me is about $0.45 or so a round.

I would think one could load bulk ammo using pulled bullets for -$0.30 a round?
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 1:29:40 PM EDT
[#3]
I'm with you OP.



I find the old NATO "battle rifles" to be quite appealing, but I don't see myself keeping one fed.




I don't see 7.62x51 or .308 in my future, unless I find myself in a position where I'm making some bank. I'm a caliber consolidator, and it's just not part of my plan.
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 1:29:57 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
SAMCO Global has port for $0.35/rd.

Get a 7.62 rifle now, thank me later.




Quoted:
I'm a caliber consolidator, and it's just not part of my plan.


Kind of where I'm at...I've gotten all rifle calibers down to 5.56 and 7.62x39.  It's a shame ammo has gotten so expensive and we even have to play the "caliber consolidation" game.  
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 1:57:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/6/2012 2:00:02 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
...I can't bring myself to do it, as I don't currently have any guns in that caliber and it's stupid expensive to feed them with commercial ammo.    I want a FAL or a PTR badly.  For those of you who reload, how much is it costing you per round for 7.62?


You don't want a .308.

Just stick with what you have.








That leaves more for me.
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 2:04:40 PM EDT
[#7]
Just buy one. You're not going to shoot it nearly as much as the others so you don't need as much ammo...
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 2:04:55 PM EDT
[#8]
Typical ARFCOM Answer:  GET BOTH.  Here is the thing.  You don't have to blast a hundred rounds of ammo every time you go
to the range.  That is what .223 and 7.62X39 is for.  Hell when I go out with my DPMS 308.  I shoot the hell out of my 10/22 and then
finish up with a mag or two of .308.  I bought a bunch of SA back when they were $25 a battle pack.  Wish to hell I bought a
Fucking Pallet of that shit back then.

Link Posted: 10/6/2012 2:15:56 PM EDT
[#9]
If you are going to shoot .308, shoot the SHIT out of some .308!



Link Posted: 10/6/2012 2:29:06 PM EDT
[#10]
Nice
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 2:38:19 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
...I can't bring myself to do it, as I don't currently have any guns in that caliber and it's stupid expensive to feed them with commercial ammo.    I want a FAL or a PTR badly.  For those of you who reload, how much is it costing you per round for 7.62?


When it comes down to it, my AR-10T is my first choice. I love shooting it, the smooth recoil, the accuracy, the power. It is, in my opinion, a do it all rifle.
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 2:42:56 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
SAMCO Global has port for $0.35/rd.

Get a 7.62 rifle now, thank me later.


How is that ammo?  I've never shot the Portuguese stuff.
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 2:48:08 PM EDT
[#13]
I've got an M1A and a FAL but I'm finding myself getting more and more serious about a SIG 716.

I looked at a SCAR 17 today.  Very light, very expensive ($3200).  The SIG 716 is about the same price as a new M1A.
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 3:06:47 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
...I can't bring myself to do it, as I don't currently have any guns in that caliber and it's stupid expensive to feed them with commercial ammo.    I want a FAL or a PTR badly.  For those of you who reload, how much is it costing you per round for 7.62?


I bought several thousand pulled bullets from patsreloading.com a short while back.  Paid $.09/bullet for them, if I remember.  They're out now, but it looks like hi-techammo.com has US pull down 147gn for $120/1000.

.12 for bullet
.07 for powder (WC844 also from Hi-Tech)
.03 for primer
––––––––––––––––-
.22 on your brass

HAZMAT and shipping will make it higher.
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 3:11:18 PM EDT
[#15]


I'm pretty sure there's more character in this rifle's op rod than all my little ARs combined
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 3:14:24 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:


How is that ammo?  I've never shot the Portuguese stuff.


Haven't heard on this batch, but Port .308 is regarded as some of the best 308 surplus out there. This batch was tarnished, but tumbled to clean it up.  Shouldnt affect functionality.
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 3:15:06 PM EDT
[#17]
.308 FTMFW

I shoot some surplus but mostly steel case out of mine, silver bear, wolf, brown bear etc...



Link Posted: 10/6/2012 3:16:08 PM EDT
[#18]








All the cool kids have Israelis....


Link Posted: 10/6/2012 3:17:21 PM EDT
[#19]
Just do it.  If you don't do it now, you'll regret it even more in the furure when it's even more expensive.
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 3:42:02 PM EDT
[#21]
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 3:48:46 PM EDT
[#22]
naw ya want a purty 308 like this one






 
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 3:53:38 PM EDT
[#23]
I wouldn't buy a factory built FAL nor a PTR. If you go with the FAL get a kit and either build it yourself or have one of the excellent FAL smiths build it. You might consider cruising the FAL Files market place and buy a complete rifle that was built by one of the good guys or if you're lucky an early DSA assembled rifle.

If you want a G3 clone forget the PTR, they've had alot of problems with trunnions cracking and other U.S. parts failing. One of the latest problems is the bolts crumbling. The way to go for a G3 clone is to buy a PTR receiver, RCM barrel and as many HK parts as 922 will allow and have a smith who specializes in HK weapons assemble it.  You could also look for a Springfiled SAR 3/8. They were G3s made in Portugal and Greece under HK license.
I still have 762 nato i bought for $99. a case of 1,000, man we won't see those days again.
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 3:55:32 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
http://imageshack.us/a/img852/5608/img0783h.jpg

I'm pretty sure there's more character in this rifle's op rod than all my little ARs combined


I think mine's got yours beat.



Link Posted: 10/6/2012 3:59:37 PM EDT
[#25]
762X51, .45ACP, .357 and 12 ga.

I don't want anything else

but I do have a M4gery and a SCAR in 5.56
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 4:03:35 PM EDT
[#26]
OP What do use at 1000 yards?
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 4:07:13 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
...I can't bring myself to do it, as I don't currently have any guns in that caliber and it's stupid expensive to feed them with commercial ammo.    I want a FAL or a PTR badly.  For those of you who reload, how much is it costing you per round for 7.62?


I bought several thousand pulled bullets from patsreloading.com a short while back.  Paid $.09/bullet for them, if I remember.  They're out now, but it looks like hi-techammo.com has US pull down 147gn for $120/1000.

.12 for bullet
.07 for powder (WC844 also from Hi-Tech)
.03 for primer
––––––––––––––––-
.22 on your brass

HAZMAT and shipping will make it higher.


Those pulls downs are great.  Half the price I pay for Sierra 168/175gr JBTHP pills and work great in battle rifles.
My PTR freaking loves the 168gr Sierras.
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 4:18:11 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Quoted:
SAMCO Global has port for $0.35/rd.

Get a 7.62 rifle now, thank me later.


How is that ammo?  I've never shot the Portuguese stuff.


Port is/was good... However there was a bunch that came in that was corroded/tarnished. Samco says they cleaned it, which leads me to believe it was pretty bad. That's a good price considering current 7.62 asking prices, I would pass on it if you're not willing accept that you may get some crummy ammo.


The SCAR-17S is an absolute joy to shoot.

Link Posted: 10/6/2012 4:29:54 PM EDT
[#29]





Quoted:





Quoted:


http://imageshack.us/a/img852/5608/img0783h.jpg





I'm pretty sure there's more character in this rifle's op rod than all my little ARs combined






I think mine's got yours beat.











http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab76/kc10boom/K98%20project/c4545cb9.jpg






holy crap,thats beautiful. you win...
 
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 5:37:01 PM EDT
[#30]
WhooHoo another FAL picture thread!








 
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 7:03:42 PM EDT
[#31]



Quoted:


SAMCO Global has port for $0.35/rd.



Get a 7.62 rifle now, thank me later.


Except they want to charge me  NC sales tax - even though they are in FL and have no NC physical presence.  Wonder if they pay that collected tax to the NC DOR?

 
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 7:06:55 PM EDT
[#32]



Quoted:


I've got an M1A and a FAL but I'm finding myself getting more and more serious about a SIG 716.



I looked at a SCAR 17 today.  Very light, very expensive ($3200).  The SIG 716 is about the same price as a new M1A.


That price on a SCAR-17S is at least $500 too much.  Judicious looking will find them at $2700 or less.

 
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 7:09:54 PM EDT
[#33]
M1A FTW, Do it, you know you want to!
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 7:15:20 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
...I can't bring myself to do it, as I don't currently have any guns in that caliber and it's stupid expensive to feed them with commercial ammo.    I want a FAL or a PTR badly.  For those of you who reload, how much is it costing you per round for 7.62?


Those do not go together. A PTR mangles the fuck out of brass. My DSA FAL is not to gentle either.
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 7:47:34 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Quoted:
...I can't bring myself to do it, as I don't currently have any guns in that caliber and it's stupid expensive to feed them with commercial ammo.    I want a FAL or a PTR badly.  For those of you who reload, how much is it costing you per round for 7.62?


Those do not go together. A PTR mangles the fuck out of brass. My DSA FAL is not to gentle either.


wait whut? get a deflector it does wonders!
Link Posted: 10/6/2012 8:24:43 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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...I can't bring myself to do it, as I don't currently have any guns in that caliber and it's stupid expensive to feed them with commercial ammo.    I want a FAL or a PTR badly.  For those of you who reload, how much is it costing you per round for 7.62?


Those do not go together. A PTR mangles the fuck out of brass. My DSA FAL is not to gentle either.


wait whut? get a deflector it does wonders!


The PTR Gi line shoots anything. Shoot Russian steel case and don't worry about reloading. No it's not match ammo but neither is surplus or American Eagle, etc.

Like was said you won't fire it as much anyway no matter what the ammo cost.





Link Posted: 10/7/2012 6:17:43 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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...I can't bring myself to do it, as I don't currently have any guns in that caliber and it's stupid expensive to feed them with commercial ammo.    I want a FAL or a PTR badly.  For those of you who reload, how much is it costing you per round for 7.62?


Those do not go together. A PTR mangles the fuck out of brass. My DSA FAL is not to gentle either.


wait whut? get a deflector it does wonders!


Really? t the brass out of my buddies  PTR is fucked up. everything i read said that was the norm.. Maybe i need to take another look into that. Thanks for the heads up.
Link Posted: 10/7/2012 6:22:00 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Buy now as they only go up.
Whatever you buy put an equal amount away.
Before long you will have a stash.
Glad I did in the early '90's & thought it was pricey then.  


Yep, this - I remember buying and stashing the South African "battle packs" of .308 about 10 years ago, and I thought the stuff was expensive back then.  Now I am so thankful I did that.
Link Posted: 10/7/2012 6:24:41 PM EDT
[#39]
M1A for the win.  We load our own ammo to beat the price.
 
Link Posted: 10/7/2012 6:28:10 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
...I can't bring myself to do it, as I don't currently have any guns in that caliber and it's stupid expensive to feed them with commercial ammo.    I want a FAL or a PTR badly.  For those of you who reload, how much is it costing you per round for 7.62?


run price some .338 lapua ammo...... then you will see how dirt cheap .308 ammo is..
Link Posted: 10/7/2012 6:30:53 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/7/2012 6:34:27 PM EDT
[#42]

 
Link Posted: 10/7/2012 6:35:54 PM EDT
[#43]

 
Link Posted: 10/7/2012 6:38:00 PM EDT
[#44]
I love my PTR, but I can't wait to get my FALs built.

Link Posted: 10/7/2012 6:38:16 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
I've got an M1A and a FAL but I'm finding myself getting more and more serious about a SIG 716.

I looked at a SCAR 17 today.  Very light, very expensive ($3200).  The SIG 716 is about the same price as a new M1A.


I sold off a couple guns to buy a FDE SCAR 17. Blows away my FN-FAL. Worth every penny.

My reloads are running ~$0.40/rd on first loading. Using LC LR brass, 150 gr Hornady FMJBT, Wolf Primers and Varget. Also bought a side rail mounted brass catcher so should get many loads out of the brass cheaping each loading.
Link Posted: 10/7/2012 6:39:02 PM EDT
[#46]



Quoted:


I love my PTR, but I can't wait to get my FALs built.



http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh174/smokiesmokie/DSC_0030.jpg


What part of Texas are you at Bru? I might be able to give you a hand with that?



 
Link Posted: 10/7/2012 6:40:09 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
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...I can't bring myself to do it, as I don't currently have any guns in that caliber and it's stupid expensive to feed them with commercial ammo.    I want a FAL or a PTR badly.  For those of you who reload, how much is it costing you per round for 7.62?


Those do not go together. A PTR mangles the fuck out of brass. My DSA FAL is not to gentle either.


wait whut? get a deflector it does wonders!


Really? t the brass out of my buddies  PTR is fucked up. everything i read said that was the norm.. Maybe i need to take another look into that. Thanks for the heads up.


he means buy a port buffer. the clamp on, and are extremly low profile, with a small rubber bumper. it keeps the brass from being dented, and thrown into the next county. without a port buffer, mine would dent the brass in the neck, AND again in the wall, IF you could find it.

Unfortunately my new ptr, has a welded scope rail, and a port buffer wont fit it, im trying to figure out how to get it to fit anyway...
Link Posted: 10/7/2012 6:41:50 PM EDT
[#48]
H&K style 308 rifles mangle brass anyway.
 
Link Posted: 10/7/2012 6:42:27 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
I've got an M1A and a FAL but I'm finding myself getting more and more serious about a SIG 716.

I looked at a SCAR 17 today.  Very light, very expensive ($3200).  The SIG 716 is about the same price as a new M1A.


Get the 716 and spend the price difference on mags and ammo.  The SCAR is cool, but it's definitely not that cool.
Link Posted: 10/7/2012 6:45:27 PM EDT
[#50]





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SAMCO Global has port for $0.35/rd.





Get a 7.62 rifle now, thank me later.






How is that ammo?  I've never shot the Portuguese stuff.






Port is/was good... However there was a bunch that came in that was corroded/tarnished. Samco says they cleaned it, which leads me to believe it was pretty bad. That's a good price considering current 7.62 asking prices, I would pass on it if you're not willing accept that you may get some crummy ammo.
The SCAR-17S is an absolute joy to shoot.








This is a sample of the last batch of Port that I got from Samco. These were the worst rounds that I sorted.



ETA: I bought that batch 2 years ago. I don't know what the currently sold stuff is like.






 
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