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Posted: 12/2/2016 9:58:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/6/2016 1:04:04 AM EST by mamasboy]
I selling all the SBR's and use the money to build plain AR's.
In my situation it's just to much hassle. I guess i'll build another
6.5 grendel in 16".
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:00:13 PM EST
Bazooka Joe's?
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:02:00 PM EST
Class III dealer in Orange Park FL.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:02:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By mamasboy:
I selling all the SBR's and use the money to build plain AR's.
In my situation it's just to much hassle. I guess i'll build another
6.5 grendel in 16".
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Um you know you can just install a 16 inch or longer barrel on it and it's no longer an SBR right?
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:03:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tim_McBride:


Um you know you can just install a 16 inch or longer barrel on it and it's no longer an SBR right?
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This. Get rid of the short uppers, and throw a 16" upper on it. Voila, title I firearm.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:04:21 PM EST
Did you fall and hit your head?
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:07:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tim_McBride:


Um you know you can just install a 16 inch or longer barrel on it and it's no longer an SBR right?
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Nope you have it changed with BATF and these have suppressor mounts and short handguards.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:09:07 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:10:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mamasboy:


Nope you have it changed with BATF and these have suppressor mounts and short handguards.
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wat
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:10:23 PM EST
Keep your SBRs.

They don't sell well if they are just ARs.

Just build uppers that you want, and put them on your SBR lowers. Or just keep one SBR at least.

Its good to have all length options.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:10:56 PM EST
Big Red?
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:11:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mamasboy:


Nope you have it changed with BATF and these have suppressor mounts and short handguards.
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Incorrect. You can put any upper on an SBR lower as long as you still have an upper for the spec on your Form 1.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:12:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By safe1:


Re-read your thread title.
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Form1's sound better?
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:12:21 PM EST
Full auto bubbleyum?
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:12:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mamasboy:


Nope you have it changed with BATF and these have suppressor mounts and short handguards.
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You've been mis informed. ATF clearly lays this out in the NFA handbook, and has clarified it in multiple letters.
Although notification is a good idea, it is not required.
Also for the purposes of complying with various state laws you can add a 16 inch barrel, travel out of state without filing a 5320.20, come home and reinstall the short barrel.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:13:20 PM EST
The idea of filing the forms to convert SBR back to title 1 certainly is something worth chewing on.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:13:58 PM EST
Isn't the hassle done if they are already stamped? Or do you move around a lot?
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:14:19 PM EST
Just sell the uppers on the EE, you can send the ATF a letter asking them to remove the lowers from the registry if you really want to, but I wouldn't since you won't get the tax money back.

Kharn
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:15:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/2/2016 10:17:42 PM EST by Cypher214]
Well that's a really fucking retarded and wholly unnecessary way to lose a lot of money and that's IF the dealer can find someone dumb enough to buy your rifles instead of Form 1'ing their own lower.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:16:49 PM EST
And you of course didn't leave anything configured as an SBR at the gun store, right?
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:17:35 PM EST
OP, i have some bad news....

Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:17:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SEWERAT:
Isn't the hassle done if they are already stamped? Or do you move around a lot?
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Even if he moves out of state a lot a form 5320.20 doesn't take long to get approved.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:18:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mamasboy:
Class III dealer in Orange Park FL.
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OTS? I haven been there yet, I live in Southside Jax so it's a pain to get there
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:19:14 PM EST
These are Spikes built AR's and should sell for a decent price.
And they are not done in a trust so if I kick off the Gov. gets them.
Besides I have plenty more that can go straight to the Wife
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:22:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mamasboy:
These are Spikes built AR's and should sell for a decent price.
And they are not done in a trust so if I kick off the Gov. gets them.
Besides I have plenty more that can go straight to the Wife
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Ummmmm, no.
If you die, individually owned NFA items transfer tax-free via Form 5 to the recipient designated in your will.

You really need to read up on the law some more...

Kharn
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:24:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/2/2016 10:25:19 PM EST by mathecb]
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Maybe it's best if OP sells his guns and takes up golfing.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:24:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mamasboy:
These are Spikes built AR's and should sell for a decent price.
And they are not done in a trust so if I kick off the Gov. gets them.
Besides I have plenty more that can go straight to the Wife
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OP. You are wasting your $200 on each lower that you sbr'ed, or that you transferred from a dealer on a form 4. The next buyer of your rifles will have to spend an extra $400 to get them transferred from you to the dealer and then back to themselves. NFA firearms cannot be consigned to a regular firearms dealer without either them being removed from the registry or a form 4 tax paid transfer being completed to the dealer first. Also just because they are not in a trust does not mean that your relatives cannot inherit them. Your next legal heir can transfer them tax-free on a form 5 after your death.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:24:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Well that's a really fucking retarded and wholly unnecessary way to lose a lot of money and that's IF the dealer can find someone dumb enough to buy your rifles instead of Form 1'ing their own lower.
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How many 10mm, 9mm suppressed, 6.6SPC and 300Blk, can you build Tier 1 for under $1000?
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:25:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tuco22:
OP, i have some bad news....

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsxtvopDMr1qbjcga.jpg
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This. OP, you're drunk or retarded, maybe both.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:25:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mamasboy:
These are Spikes built AR's and should sell for a decent price.
And they are not done in a trust so if I kick off the Gov. gets them.
Besides I have plenty more that can go straight to the Wife
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Whomever you've been listening too about the NFA stuff has mislead you. Please take some time to read the NFA handbook the ATF itself puts out.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:26:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tim_McBride:
And you of course didn't leave anything configured as an SBR at the gun store, right?
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He's got full autos and mah duce hanging on the walls.
Class III dealer
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:27:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Malachai:
Bazooka Joe's?
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nailed it
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:28:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/2/2016 10:29:17 PM EST by FL4REAL]
Damn Floridaman.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:28:52 PM EST
What am I missing?

1. Part them out on the EE, GB, whatever.
2. Notify the ATF to remove them from the registry.

...


3. Profit?
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:29:58 PM EST
are they spearmint?
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:30:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BigHunt:

OP. You are wasting your $200 on each lower that you sbr'ed, or that you transferred from a dealer on a form 4. The next buyer of your rifles will have to spend an extra $400 to get them transferred from you to the dealer and then back to themselves. NFA firearms cannot be consigned to a regular firearms dealer without either them being removed from the registry or a form 4 tax paid transfer being completed to the dealer first. Also just because they are not in a trust does not mean that your relatives cannot inherit them. Your next legal heir can transfer them tax-free on a form 5 after your death.
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According to the paperwork nobody can have the combo to the safe their in these are only reg. to me.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:31:36 PM EST
We're being trolled, gents.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:32:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BPK2300:


OTS? I haven been there yet, I live in Southside Jax so it's a pain to get there
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Probably predator ordinance on hwy 17 between Wells Rd and Kingsley Ave. Cool guys with a nice collection. Not a big place though. Got a few Anderson's stripped lowers from em last year.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:32:22 PM EST
Lol wut
Fail
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:32:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kharn:

Ummmmm, no.
If you die, individually owned NFA items transfer tax-free via Form 5 to the recipient designated in your will.

You really need to read up on the law some more...

Kharn
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+1

No flame, OP, but you need to post less and read more. I'm not sure what you're even trying to accomplish.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:32:52 PM EST
Holy shit dude, everything you've said about NFA stuff in this thread has been completely wrong.

If you don't feel like listening to us or taking a few minutes to learn...frankly, you deserve the hosing you're about to take.

1. When you die, the government doesn't get your fucking guns. That's retarded as shit.
2. All you need to do is put a 16"+ barrel on them and they're no longer under the purview of the NFA. Sell the complete uppers, sell the short barrels and buy long ones, or buy more lowers and move those uppers over to them as pistols.

You're fucking up because you're ignorant of absolutely everything you're doing.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:33:47 PM EST
This isn't making any sense. If you just wanted to sell them, fine; but you said you would use the money to buy more AR's. Why wouldn't you just keep them and make them non-NFA by whatever means you feel like?
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:33:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By NorthBridge:
We're being trolled, gents.
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Ahh should've seen it. Fuck me...nobody could actually be that stupid.
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:34:19 PM EST
There are stores that only sell gum?
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:35:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mamasboy:


How many 10mm, 9mm suppressed, 6.6SPC and 300Blk, can you build Tier 1 for under $1000?
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How much retard can you give the Earth?
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:37:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mamasboy:

According to the paperwork nobody can have the combo to the safe their in these are only reg. to me.
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Feel free to do whatever you want. The people here are trying to keep you from making an unnecessary mistake.

Why are you wanting to do this anyway?
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:37:41 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:37:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By greg9719:



Probably predator ordinance on hwy 17 between Wells Rd and Kingsley Ave. Cool guys with a nice collection. Not a big place though. Got a few Anderson's stripped lowers from em last year.
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you got it.

Also not drunk or retarded. I did Read the ATFbook
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:37:45 PM EST
Trolling or retarded?
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:39:17 PM EST
Gum store huh
Link Posted: 12/2/2016 10:40:00 PM EST
OP if you have KAC P/N 25847, I'm interested.

OP going about things all wrong and shit stirring up the hive with agitation and what not.
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