I took all my Class III's to the Gun store today

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Posted: 12/2/2016 10:58:30 PM EDT

I selling all the SBR's and use the money to build plain AR's.
In my situation it's just to much hassle. I guess i'll build another
6.5 grendel in 16".

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:00:13 PM EDT

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Bazooka Joe's?

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:02:00 PM EDT

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Class III dealer in Orange Park FL.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:02:09 PM EDT

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I selling all the SBR's and use the money to build plain AR's.
In my situation it's just to much hassle. I guess i'll build another
6.5 grendel in 16".

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Um you know you can just install a 16 inch or longer barrel on it and it's no longer an SBR right?

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:03:34 PM EDT

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Um you know you can just install a 16 inch or longer barrel on it and it's no longer an SBR right?

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This. Get rid of the short uppers, and throw a 16" upper on it. Voila, title I firearm.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:04:21 PM EDT

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Did you fall and hit your head?

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:07:54 PM EDT

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Um you know you can just install a 16 inch or longer barrel on it and it's no longer an SBR right?

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Nope you have it changed with BATF and these have suppressor mounts and short handguards.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:09:07 PM EDT

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Class III dealer in Orange Park FL.

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Re-read your thread title.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:10:16 PM EDT

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Nope you have it changed with BATF and these have suppressor mounts and short handguards.

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wat

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:10:23 PM EDT

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Keep your SBRs.

They don't sell well if they are just ARs.

Just build uppers that you want, and put them on your SBR lowers. Or just keep one SBR at least.

Its good to have all length options.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:10:56 PM EDT

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Big Red?

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:11:40 PM EDT

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Nope you have it changed with BATF and these have suppressor mounts and short handguards.

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Incorrect. You can put any upper on an SBR lower as long as you still have an upper for the spec on your Form 1.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:12:14 PM EDT

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Re-read your thread title.

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Form1's sound better?

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:12:21 PM EDT

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Full auto bubbleyum?

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:12:36 PM EDT

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Nope you have it changed with BATF and these have suppressor mounts and short handguards.

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You've been mis informed. ATF clearly lays this out in the NFA handbook, and has clarified it in multiple letters.
Although notification is a good idea, it is not required.
Also for the purposes of complying with various state laws you can add a 16 inch barrel, travel out of state without filing a 5320.20, come home and reinstall the short barrel.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:13:20 PM EDT

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The idea of filing the forms to convert SBR back to title 1 certainly is something worth chewing on.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:13:58 PM EDT

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Isn't the hassle done if they are already stamped? Or do you move around a lot?

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:14:19 PM EDT

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Just sell the uppers on the EE, you can send the ATF a letter asking them to remove the lowers from the registry if you really want to, but I wouldn't since you won't get the tax money back.

Kharn

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:15:14 PM EDT

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Well that's a really fucking retarded and wholly unnecessary way to lose a lot of money and that's IF the dealer can find someone dumb enough to buy your rifles instead of Form 1'ing their own lower.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:16:49 PM EDT

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And you of course didn't leave anything configured as an SBR at the gun store, right?

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:17:35 PM EDT

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OP, i have some bad news....

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:17:57 PM EDT

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Isn't the hassle done if they are already stamped? Or do you move around a lot?

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Even if he moves out of state a lot a form 5320.20 doesn't take long to get approved.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:18:28 PM EDT

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Class III dealer in Orange Park FL.

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OTS? I haven been there yet, I live in Southside Jax so it's a pain to get there

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:19:14 PM EDT

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These are Spikes built AR's and should sell for a decent price.
And they are not done in a trust so if I kick off the Gov. gets them.
Besides I have plenty more that can go straight to the Wife

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:22:40 PM EDT

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These are Spikes built AR's and should sell for a decent price.
And they are not done in a trust so if I kick off the Gov. gets them.
Besides I have plenty more that can go straight to the Wife

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Ummmmm, no.
If you die, individually owned NFA items transfer tax-free via Form 5 to the recipient designated in your will.

You really need to read up on the law some more...

Kharn

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:24:15 PM EDT

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Maybe it's best if OP sells his guns and takes up golfing.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:24:23 PM EDT

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These are Spikes built AR's and should sell for a decent price.
And they are not done in a trust so if I kick off the Gov. gets them.
Besides I have plenty more that can go straight to the Wife

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OP. You are wasting your $200 on each lower that you sbr'ed, or that you transferred from a dealer on a form 4. The next buyer of your rifles will have to spend an extra $400 to get them transferred from you to the dealer and then back to themselves. NFA firearms cannot be consigned to a regular firearms dealer without either them being removed from the registry or a form 4 tax paid transfer being completed to the dealer first. Also just because they are not in a trust does not mean that your relatives cannot inherit them. Your next legal heir can transfer them tax-free on a form 5 after your death.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:24:33 PM EDT

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Well that's a really fucking retarded and wholly unnecessary way to lose a lot of money and that's IF the dealer can find someone dumb enough to buy your rifles instead of Form 1'ing their own lower.

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How many 10mm, 9mm suppressed, 6.6SPC and 300Blk, can you build Tier 1 for under $1000?

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:25:10 PM EDT

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OP, i have some bad news....

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsxtvopDMr1qbjcga.jpg

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This. OP, you're drunk or retarded, maybe both.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:25:14 PM EDT

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These are Spikes built AR's and should sell for a decent price.
And they are not done in a trust so if I kick off the Gov. gets them.
Besides I have plenty more that can go straight to the Wife

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Whomever you've been listening too about the NFA stuff has mislead you. Please take some time to read the NFA handbook the ATF itself puts out.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:26:47 PM EDT

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And you of course didn't leave anything configured as an SBR at the gun store, right?

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He's got full autos and mah duce hanging on the walls.
Class III dealer

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:27:41 PM EDT

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nailed it

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:28:42 PM EDT

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Damn Floridaman.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:28:52 PM EDT

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What am I missing?

1. Part them out on the EE, GB, whatever.
2. Notify the ATF to remove them from the registry.

...

3. Profit?

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:29:58 PM EDT

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are they spearmint?

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:30:54 PM EDT

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OP. You are wasting your $200 on each lower that you sbr'ed, or that you transferred from a dealer on a form 4. The next buyer of your rifles will have to spend an extra $400 to get them transferred from you to the dealer and then back to themselves. NFA firearms cannot be consigned to a regular firearms dealer without either them being removed from the registry or a form 4 tax paid transfer being completed to the dealer first. Also just because they are not in a trust does not mean that your relatives cannot inherit them. Your next legal heir can transfer them tax-free on a form 5 after your death.

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According to the paperwork nobody can have the combo to the safe their in these are only reg. to me.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:31:36 PM EDT

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We're being trolled, gents.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:32:12 PM EDT

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OTS? I haven been there yet, I live in Southside Jax so it's a pain to get there

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Probably predator ordinance on hwy 17 between Wells Rd and Kingsley Ave. Cool guys with a nice collection. Not a big place though. Got a few Anderson's stripped lowers from em last year.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:32:22 PM EDT

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Lol wut
Fail

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:32:32 PM EDT

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Ummmmm, no.
If you die, individually owned NFA items transfer tax-free via Form 5 to the recipient designated in your will.

You really need to read up on the law some more...

Kharn

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+1

No flame, OP, but you need to post less and read more. I'm not sure what you're even trying to accomplish.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:32:52 PM EDT

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Holy shit dude, everything you've said about NFA stuff in this thread has been completely wrong.

If you don't feel like listening to us or taking a few minutes to learn...frankly, you deserve the hosing you're about to take.

1. When you die, the government doesn't get your fucking guns. That's retarded as shit.
2. All you need to do is put a 16"+ barrel on them and they're no longer under the purview of the NFA. Sell the complete uppers, sell the short barrels and buy long ones, or buy more lowers and move those uppers over to them as pistols.

You're fucking up because you're ignorant of absolutely everything you're doing.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:33:47 PM EDT

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This isn't making any sense. If you just wanted to sell them, fine; but you said you would use the money to buy more AR's. Why wouldn't you just keep them and make them non-NFA by whatever means you feel like?

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:33:57 PM EDT

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Ahh should've seen it. Fuck me...nobody could actually be that stupid.

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:34:19 PM EDT

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There are stores that only sell gum?

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:35:35 PM EDT

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How many 10mm, 9mm suppressed, 6.6SPC and 300Blk, can you build Tier 1 for under $1000?

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How much retard can you give the Earth?

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:37:35 PM EDT

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According to the paperwork nobody can have the combo to the safe their in these are only reg. to me.

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Feel free to do whatever you want. The people here are trying to keep you from making an unnecessary mistake.

Why are you wanting to do this anyway?

Posted: 12/2/2016 11:37:41 PM EDT

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Posted: 12/2/2016 11:37:42 PM EDT

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Probably predator ordinance on hwy 17 between Wells Rd and Kingsley Ave. Cool guys with a nice collection. Not a big place though. Got a few Anderson's stripped lowers from em last year.

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you got it.

Also not drunk or retarded. I did Read the ATFbook