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Posted: 9/18/2005 9:02:04 PM EDT
I thought the politicos who signed the Hauge Accord demanded a round that would wound more easily than kill and so that affected military ammo development since then until World War 1?

Link Posted: 9/18/2005 9:07:02 PM EDT
Actually, the idea behind firearms was to wound people. Then someone died and they decided that was even better.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 9:09:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CRC:
I thought the politicos who signed the Hauge Accord demanded a round that would wound more easily than kill and so that affected military ammo development since then until World War 1?




WRONG

The thought of the Hague was not specifically to mandate FMJ

It was DEFINATELY not to mandate wounding-not-killing ammo.

It was to prohibit, as a class, weapons 'designed or modified to cause unneccicary suffering'.

At the time, the standard military ammo was FMJ, as this was the most recent development in ammo technology, a distinct improvement over pure-lead bullets. However, some nations (notably Britain, and their arsenal at Dum-Dum in India) were experimenting with 'modifications' to the standard bullet tip (such as cutting a cross in it, etc) that would increase wounding potential.

At the time, this was thought to be distinctly separate from 'killing potential', and the idea was to ban weapons designed or modified to cause unneccicary suffering (eg increasing wounding w/o killing effects)...

There are alot of myths about the Hague convention, the specific origins of the ammo rules is one of them, but the most popular MYTH is that said convention limits the use of .50cal & heavier weapons to materiel, when there is no such convention signed or observed by the United States (source would be CATD, Ft Benning.).
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 9:10:58 PM EDT
I thought FMJ was more about feeding reliability and to lessen the barrel fouling, than wounding characteristics.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 9:12:23 PM EDT
Thanks for the info.

I thought it was the opposite.

So they were worried about newer ammo that would increase wounding potential (or so the politicians thought0?

CRC
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 9:19:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CRC:
Thanks for the info.

I thought it was the opposite.

So they were worried about newer ammo that would increase wounding potential (or so the politicians thought0?

CRC



suffering potential.
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