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Posted: 11/5/2009 1:46:45 AM EST
Yes.


I've been reading the Posleen books.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 1:53:38 AM EST
I agree.

Orbital bombardment satilites > B2 bombers and ICBMs
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 1:54:45 AM EST
Maybe it's already there and you just don't know it.

Link Posted: 11/5/2009 2:02:33 AM EST
Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni:
I agree.

Orbital bombardment satilites > B2 bombers and ICBMs


Facing outward, not inward.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 2:09:16 AM EST
Agreed.

Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni:
I agree.

Orbital bombardment satilites > B2 bombers and ICBMs


Link Posted: 11/5/2009 3:00:41 AM EST
Do you really think any tech we have would be even slightly useful against a ship capable of interstellar travel?
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 3:29:37 AM EST
Originally Posted By prov:
Do you really think any tech we have would be even slightly useful against a ship capable of interstellar travel?


Yep.

Link Posted: 11/5/2009 3:34:12 AM EST
Who controls the orbitals, controls the world.


Link Posted: 11/5/2009 3:36:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By sherrick13:
Yes.


I've been reading the Posleen books.


Hell no. All we need is a SQL programmer with a knack for powered-suit warfare!

(After reading those books about 4 times each, I really want to move to the mountains)
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 3:38:16 AM EST
Yep. Ground based rail guns are too easy of a target.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 3:38:47 AM EST
Originally Posted By prov:
Do you really think any tech we have would be even slightly useful against a ship capable of interstellar travel?


One shot nuke xray lasers.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 6:46:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By sherrick13:
Originally Posted By prov:
Do you really think any tech we have would be even slightly useful against a ship capable of interstellar travel?


One shot nuke xray lasers.

Or Jeff Goldblum with a Powerbook and a nifty 1990s virus!
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 6:56:20 AM EST
The biggest threat, reptilians, are a terrestrial species. We don't need protection from a threat that doesn't really exist
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 6:59:49 AM EST
I would rather devote our energy into ACS units. Ground is taken and held by the MI. Space defenses can and will be breached eventually. Then what?
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 7:02:38 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 7:07:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2009 8:19:51 AM EST by skygod]

Originally Posted By Kuraki:
I would rather devote our energy into ACS units. Ground is taken and held by the MI. Space defenses can and will be breached eventually. Then what?
This is the only pic I can find on ACS. The book was badass too, didnt like the ending much...




Dont forget Bun-Bun!





Link Posted: 11/5/2009 7:13:18 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 7:14:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2009 7:22:22 AM EST by AJ_Dual]
Originally Posted By sherrick13:
Originally Posted By prov:
Do you really think any tech we have would be even slightly useful against a ship capable of interstellar travel?


One shot nuke xray lasers.


Except that nobody's actually ever made one. The one time they tried it during the 1983 underground nuke test, they got nothing. And there's an insanely steep development curve, because you have to light off a nuke every time you need to test a design refinement.

Originally Posted By Spearweasel:
Rods from the Gods FTMFW


Agreed...

IMO, if you're looking to fend off an invasion from a technologically superior force, and you have time to prepare, the best way to do it would be to overwhelm the enemy's superior capabilites with cheap kinetics. Massed formations of sand and gravel in all the likely approaches and useful orbits put up there by mass-drivers (with "gaps" in which to seat our own satellites and space assets...) , then tons of cheap disposable "brilliant pebble" high-thrust kinetic manuvering vehicles, more than the enemy can shoot down which will patrol the "lanes" which are free and clear of the gravel.

Of course, the enemy still has the "high ground" further out than Earth-Moon space, and they can just drop asteroids on our ass. Or they can just fire their own dumb kinetics from further out until the industrial infrastructure is gone in Earth-Moon space, and climate change causes massive starvation/agriculture failure.

The real problem with space warfare is that unless there's overwhelming cultural or political reasons to do so, (which would be human on human warfare with a grudge or to "prove some point") it's always just easier to destroy a planet than it is to capture/occupy it. If you have interstellar technology, you also have the technology to have very advanced automated mining and material science and bio-sicence to make whatever you could possibly need or want. The only reason to destroy another race is if it makes sense to do so because they might be a threat to you. Then if their pretty oxygen/water world is destroyed, so what? You can just build space colonies, or can fix the climate on the wrecked planet later.

The problem with any sci-fi interstellar war scenario is that if you've got the ability to have fast interstellar travel that's "cheap" enough in energy terms to waste on "war", you've also got commensurate god-like technological powers to make whatever you could possibly take by force cheaper, safer, and easier anyway. Any realistic portrayal of interstellar war will be wars of extermination, not wars of "conquest".

- JOHN RINGO/POSLEEN SPOILERS -

IMO, Ringo is smart enough to know this, at least in terms of "Interstellar travel = the tech level to make whatever you want for free, no need for war..." I've only read two books so far, but it seems to me he's strongly hinting the Posleen are an invention of the GalTechs themselves and now need the other warlike race, Humanity, to help clean up the mess. He also had to add the artifice of the GalTech's having prohibitions on nanotech and high degrees of automation, forcing his imaginary universe into high-tech cottage industry, so the Posleen couldn't just be swept aside with massive industrial-scale warfare right away...
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 7:27:45 AM EST
Originally Posted By Kuraki:
I would rather devote our energy into ACS units. Ground is taken and held by the MI. Space defenses can and will be breached eventually. Then what?


In orbital siege warfare, whoever controls the sky above the planet will eventually control the planet. Its only a matter of time. Ground pounders can't even move without catching a kinetic energy weapon or a nuclear / antimatter warhead in the teeth.

If you want to win the war, win it in space.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 7:28:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2009 7:30:39 AM EST by JamesP81]
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 7:29:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2009 7:29:53 AM EST by ArmyInfantryVet]


Orbital Magnetic Acceleration Cannon (MAC gun) FTW.
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