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Posted: 8/19/2004 12:00:15 PM EDT

I am going to vote for him either way, but everyone I talk to is pretty upset to see day after day fallen Marines from our area. Plus you got all this BS were the Iraq Guard wont fight for anything and we do all the grunt work.

I really think if we don't pull out kerry is going to take the election. This really scares the crap out of me!

Posted: 8/19/2004 12:01:32 PM EDT

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Posted: 8/19/2004 12:04:46 PM EDT

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You've got to be kidding me. Bush would be lambasted for "Abandoning those poor Iraqis who we promised freedom to"

Stay the course, finish the fucking job.

While each American's death is a great loss to our nation, we are seriously kicking ass over there for the price that is being paid. Pulling out just tells the rest of the world that we run away when things get tough.

FUCK THAT SHIT!

Posted: 8/19/2004 12:04:56 PM EDT

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A month ago I would have agreed with you but Kerry's campaign is self destructing. I think Bush will win by a moderate amount.

Posted: 8/19/2004 12:07:41 PM EDT

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A month ago I would have agreed with you but Kerry's campaign is self destructing. I think Bush will win by a moderate amount.

I hope Bush has enough crap on kerry to bury his ass. Kerry is a moron with his more "PC" war on terror.

But I don't know things just don't look good...

The thought of having kerry as our leader just scares the crap out of me!

Posted: 8/19/2004 12:09:58 PM EDT

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You're really f*(&^%) joking , right???? Wake up and smell the coffee!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: 8/19/2004 12:11:17 PM EDT

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If he pulls out he is totally FCKED!

Posted: 8/19/2004 12:13:23 PM EDT

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Bush will lose if you and ALL of your freedom loving friends don't vote. There are way to many liberals that are going to vote.

so please, VOTE

my 2 cents

Posted: 8/19/2004 12:19:42 PM EDT

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Bush started something, now he has to finish it. JMO

Too much has been spent more importantly too many have died. We have to stay the course, one of the reasons I am voting for the jug head.

Posted: 8/19/2004 12:20:27 PM EDT

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That is stupid.

Posted: 8/19/2004 12:22:14 PM EDT

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I am going to vote for him either way, but everyone I talk to is pretty upset to see day after day fallen Marines from our area. Plus you got all this BS were the Iraq Guard wont fight for anything and we do all the grunt work.

I really think if we don't pull out kerry is going to take the election. This really scares the crap out of me!

What "area" is that?
What Marines are these?

The 'day after day' trouble is the Media that is so grossly hyping our casualties, withOUT context, withOUT balanced reporting of what they've accomplished for the price.

Do you even realize that more people are murdered EVERY MONTH in America, than have died IN COMBAT in Iraq in ALL of the last 18 MONTHS, TOTAL?

Do you have ANY idea what the casualty rates are for War, throughout US history?

Do you have ANY idea how stunningly LOW the current rates are?

Probably not. And the 'mainstream' media sure the fuck isn't telling you. Neither is the Ultra-liberal university system. To busy teaching WHAT to think and not HOW to think, and sure can't let FACTS get in the way of their propaganda. ::spit::

Posted: 8/19/2004 12:24:05 PM EDT

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not gonna happen.

However, if Bush continues to pander to the Mexicans (potential voters) with his free entry by the southern border - I think he may lose a few supporters there.

(from the news today of more middle Eastern men trying to sneak across recently)

Close the feuckin border already - damn!

Posted: 8/19/2004 12:26:59 PM EDT

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I think Bush has hurt himself by not being more decisive in Iraq.
However, Kerry is going down in flames. Unless something dramatic happens to chance the momentum this one is over. The fat lady is warming up.

Posted: 8/19/2004 12:34:59 PM EDT

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Kerry is a choad. You can only pretty-him-up so much. Unfit For Command is the #1 seller on Amazon and B&N. People are going to wake up and dump his ass.

Posted: 8/19/2004 12:49:27 PM EDT

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Bush won't pull the troops out because doing it would be wrong and stupid. Kerry won't be able to pull them out either, despite his campaign promises. They will be there for some time, even if things settle down.

Posted: 8/19/2004 12:52:22 PM EDT

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A month ago I would have agreed with you but Kerry's campaign is self destructing. I think Bush will win by a moderate amount.

Kerry is a fricken train wreck.

So much so its making me suspicious.

Posted: 8/20/2004 8:52:32 AM EDT

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If we can't fight Islamists in Iraq, where they are weak and disorganized, then we really can't fight them anywhere.

PS. If we pull out of Iraq then Iran will move the funding and manpower they are sending into Iraq to the Afgan and Pakistan fronts in the war.

GunLvr

Posted: 8/20/2004 9:00:14 AM EDT

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WTF?

Posted: 8/20/2004 9:02:39 AM EDT

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A month ago I would have agreed with you but Kerry's campaign is self destructing. I think Bush will win by a moderate amount.

Kerry is a fricken train wreck.

So much so its making me suspicious.

I stand by my prediction of a Hillary orchestrated incident to derail the choo choo if Kerry doesn't do it on his own. No way she wants sKerry to win.

Posted: 8/20/2004 11:22:38 AM EDT

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We've been in Iraq for 500 days (aprox.) and there are 1000 casualties (aprox.), that averages around 2 casualties a day. In a WAR ZONE!!!

There is an average of 6 HOMICIDES a day in California, a state with a proportionate amount of people, that's supposed to be a "normal" city.

Posted: 8/20/2004 11:36:45 AM EDT

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You've got to be kidding me. Bush would be lambasted for "Abandoning those poor Iraqis who we promised freedom to"

Stay the course, finish the fucking job.

While each American's death is a great loss to our nation, we are seriously kicking ass over there for the price that is being paid. Pulling out just tells the rest of the world that we run away when things get tough.

FUCK THAT SHIT!

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If he knew it would cost him the Presidency, George W. Bush has, I think and devoutly hope, enough character to finish the job!

And that's part of the reason that he is the right man for the job at this moment in history!

Now, we all wish that he would win and that in the next term he would go after terrorism on a far more aggressive and decisive manner.

History teaches us, however, that even widely popular Presidents are remarkably 'unsuccessful' in their second terms. Look at the second term legacies of both President Reagan and Clinton.

They are, after all, lame ducks. Everyone knows there will be no more campaigns and the focus will soon shift to the next in line in both parties.

So, IMHO, if President Bush really wants to energize his base, convert the Independents, and win in a landslide, he needs to spend the rest of this election season ramping up NOW what we all hope he would do later.

The economy will NOT be an issue in November, it appears, but the War on Terrorism, as defined by the events in Iraq, will be THE issue that will either win or lose this next election.

And, for the President, it is a winning hand IF PLAYED CORRECTLY!

No more pussy-footing around, George! You'll not win one single anti-War voter over to your side by dilly-dallying around on this War!

But you might lose a whole lot of your base....or at least not energize them sufficiently to be active and cheerleading for you.

Eric The(SayingWhatNeedsToBeSaid)Hun

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