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Posted: 8/22/2017 12:03:02 PM EDT
Standing in line the guy ahead of me was open carrying a 1911 with the safety on and the hammer down.
This is the first time I have ever seen someone carry a 1911 type pistol with the hammer down and safety on. I have two 1911's and seeing that just bugs me. I can't picture in my mind how carrying one like that wouldn't be awkward to draw, take the safety off and then pull back the hammer to be able to shoot. Are people actually taught to carry them that way? |
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It will be harder for someone who is sure to take it from him, to shoot him with it.
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Safety fast system like you can fit to a bhp?
You can't engage a safety on a 1911 if they hammer is down can you? |
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Probably the Para mentioned above. Its the only one I have experience with. Yes the safety gets put on as it is double action only.
ETA: at least in my memory from a year or two ago. |
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You likely didn't see it right. Either the gun or the condition it was in.
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Safety fast system like you can fit to a bhp? You can't engage a safety on a 1911 if they hammer is down can you? View Quote Bizarre thinking went into that design. "A 1911 with the safety on and the hammer back is dangerous! Let's take out the regular parts and put in a bunch of new small parts so that you can have the safety on with the hammer down!" "What will happen to your gun when you take the safety off with this silly system installed?" "Taking the safety off will automatically cock the hammer!" "So.........you added a bunch of small parts to get a gun that will be cocked as soon as you take the safety off?" "Yep!" "So.........just like a non-modified 1911 then." "Uh......." ETA: Oh yeah, and with this silliness installed on your pistol, you cannot manually put the safety on---you have to push the hammer forward to put the safety on. https://www.cylinder-slide.com/sfs4.shtml So basically it introduces more parts to possibly fail, changes the way you put the pistol on "safe," and makes it look less dangerous in a holster, I guess. |
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I have no idea but the hammer definitely was not cocked. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Right side carry I assume. How did you see the safety was engaged? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Leftys. That explains it. Those people are always throwing the world off balance.
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I wasn't aware that the safety could be on when the hammer was down.
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Yeah, SFS system crap. Bizarre thinking went into that design. "A 1911 with the safety on and the hammer back is dangerous! Let's take out the regular parts and put in a bunch of new small parts so that you can have the safety on with the hammer down!" "What will happen to your gun when you take the safety off with this silly system installed?" "Taking the safety off will automatically cock the hammer!" "So.........you added a bunch of small parts to get a gun that will be cocked as soon as you take the safety off?" "Yep!" "So.........just like a non-modified 1911 then." "Uh......." ETA: Oh yeah, and with this silliness installed on your pistol, you cannot manually put the safety on---you have to push the hammer forward to put the safety on. https://www.cylinder-slide.com/sfs4.shtml So basically it introduces more parts to possibly fail, changes the way you put the pistol on "safe," and makes it look less dangerous in a holster, I guess. View Quote |
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I open carried my USP45 exactly one time, cocked and locked. Some guy was like "uhh hey, your gun is cocked"
"Um, yeah. That's how it works" |
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I saw my first open carry a couple weeks ago, my wife didn't even notice that is how scary it was.
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My first thought would be the para LDA View Quote Not my pic but mine look just like this. Attached File |
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The open carry side was a clever trick. It is a bait gun. BG goes for open carry weapon which is unloaded and in no condition to fire anyway and the trap is sprung. BG is shot full of 9mm holes from concealed weapon on other hip. .
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Brownells - Cylinder & Slide 1911 Auto Safety Fast Shooting |
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It could have been converted to double action.
I saw someone open carrying a co2 revolver hammer cocked last week, so nothing shocks me anymore. |
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Came here to post SFS. I have one on a BHP which is very different - you can't pull back the slide without depressing the safety. Kinda cool but I know this could be problematic since I have multiple BHPs!
My LDA has a bobbed hammer which would be noticeable. |
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First post. Did the OP even see a 1911? Does the OP even own a 1911? What you describe is not possible... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How is the safety on with the hammer down? Did the OP even see a 1911? Does the OP even own a 1911? What you describe is not possible... I even pulled mine out, and I can't put the safety on either of them without the hammer cocked. If I ever see the guy again I am going to ask him what it is, because now it's bothering me. |
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In thread we find out who doesn't know shit about iterations of the 1911.
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The grizzled old Ranger was dressed in his best uniform and finest Stetson at a retirement barbecue with his 1911 cocked and locked at his side.
A little old lady walked up to him, pointed at his 1911, and said "Sir, do you know your gun is cocked?" "Yes, Ma'am" "But, Isn't that DANGEROUS?" "Yes, Ma'am. It's a gun." "Well, are you expecting trouble?" "No, Ma'am. If I was expecting trouble, I'd have brought my Winchester." "Oh, my!" |
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Safety Fast System IIRC. Cock and lock like normal, and physically pug the hammer down. When you thumb off the safety, the hammer pops to normal cocked.
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