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Posted: 11/15/2003 8:17:11 PM EDT
Geez, when I was a kid we played army all day long. Sometimes we used our wiffle bats for our rifles. One Christmas I got a Sgt. Saunders (from Combat) Thompson Machine Gun for a gift). We'd "patrol" the neighborhood going through back yards, alleys, fields, etc. Sometimes we even found ourselves "pinned down"
on a bank in a creek bed. We battled many an imaginary jap or kraut depending on how we felt that particular day. It was usually japs though. I never see kids doing those things today in any neighborhood. What's up with that? |
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I'm 24, we played kick the can, and then stalk
then in our early teens (pre drivers licenses) we played gun stalk with what ever toy guns we had, either cap guns of the one with the little gear thing that made noise when pulling the trigger. Now the overly PC zero tolerance liberal crap is ending that. Can kids even buy toy guns anymore? |
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I seem them playing it all the time...
... on computer. Look what the top selling action games in the country have been. Toy guns and water pistols cannot compete with that and paint ball guns are too expensive for the average kids just to play with in the neighborhood. |
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I used to play with BB guns.. cant feel it too bad through clothing.. jeans eliminate almost anything.. "cheap paintball"
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You apparently dont talk to many kids now do you? We use to have huge capture the flag style games involving 20+ people all the way up till high school (this was only a couple years ago). Now it's mostly computer games. Ever hear of Counter Strike, Medal of Honor, Doom, Quake, Rainbow Six, Americas Army to name a few. Playing pretend games is something we never did, putting on camo and playing capture the flag in the woods is much more fun. |
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Try something like that today and you'd have a SWAT team on site in 5 minutes flat and the kids face down with MP5's at their heads.
Not to mention the fact that "PC Police" would have a the kids in a re-education camp for thinking such "antisocial" thoughts and then having the audacity to actually act them out. |
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Their afraid of being arrested or shot by one of the many JBT's running around out there. Waving a toy gun around WILL get a kid arrested, and his mother put in jail as seen in lorain a few weeks ago.
Welcome to our "free" country. The only way it will ever be free again is after many JBTs and politicians die. |
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We don't have too much of that in this state. The simple fact is that "playing army" usually dissolves into a argument over who shot who, who is dead, since you had no way to track. At least that was how it always ended when I tried it. We tried escalating up to dirt clods just trying to find something that would leave a clear mark, never found a satisfactory solution. With the video games there is no trouble keeping score. You know who one and who lost and there is no arguing over it, no cheating. And the splatter, the weapons, the effects are all far more real than playing pretend. |
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I go back to my earlier statement in this thread (but in a much more somber way now) Sad isn't it... I remember the days when you could buy a M-16 toy that actually looked like one and the muzzle tip WASN'T painted day-glow orange... |
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LOTS of kids 'play army'... Just instead of playing it with toys, they play it with paintball guns.
Not a game you can play on a block. |
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I seem to have played it enough back in the day for all the kids in my neighborhood
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Last paintball game I went to the kids, while there, were quite outnumbered by the adults. |
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It isn't PC. Even some of the wargame simulations on the computer are getting bad press.
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... Steve? Is that you? |
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What can I say? It's an all-ages game I see kids ages 9+ at paintball games. I guess it's what kids play after they grow out of BS cartoons. There ain't no growing out of paintball, there's only airsoft and even with their differences they're still in the same sport catagory. |
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I'm gonna have to agree there. Here in Socal PRK, a buddy of mine and some church friends (30+ kids) started a game of "Fugitive." Basically in this version of "Army" you play at night and the game begins in the park, but the playing field is about a 5 mile radius. The objective is not to get spotted on your way to the objective, while the other kids in cars, bikes, and on foot look for you. Basically an Escape and Evasion senario. Well my buddy and a friend are running through the neighborhood and take cover behind a parked car on the street. Some drunk guy comes out of a house and spots them, and tries to detain them. The 5'9" drunk attempts to grab my 6'1" football player friend by the collar but can't move him. Not more than 30 seconds later, 5 Sheriffs in black and whites pull up and also the friendly neighborhood Police Helicopter. The Police charge him with a Cerfew Violation and 50 Hours Communtity service! Luckily, his dad also is a sheriff and takes care of it. Fortunately for me I didn't accept his invitation to play "Army" that night. I stayed home to clean my AR because we were going to go shooting with his dad the next day! |
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Kids now days are indoors playing their fancy console and pc games.
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1. They knew there was a curfew and they went out anyway. 2. The police can give out punishments? |
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I have a strong feeling this is one of the big reasons there are a lot of portly kids running around. Hell when a was a lad i used to go on all day bike trips across town usualy 20 miles or better. Now days my nephues that live half a mile from me. Far from any busy traffic. Piss and moan when i refuse to put their bikes in the back of my truck and DRIVE them back home. |
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Don't give up yet on all kids. My 11 yr old son and his buddies still play Army the old fashioned way. The plastic AR's are still out there to be found, they're just scaled down, I guess as to not be confused with a real one.
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Toy gun hell!!!! Waiving a friggin chicken finger will get you a Flash Bang and shackles!!! |
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The pussing down of America...
www.news-press.com/news/local_state/031111zerotolerance.html This happened in Fla but you know it's going on through out the States.
*Shitfire!!! We got of ton of them types here...! |
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My kids play it, and I see others in the area playing similar games.
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It would appear, Airwolf, that you got the message, loud, and clear........ Just curious, what put you over the top, anything in particular?? |
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I remember when I was a kid a friends dad made him a M1 replica which looked almost real. We used to run around the neighborhood playing army. I could only imagine what would happen now. |
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my son tells me at school if he even makes a play gun out of his fingers and gets caught its detention time :(
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Yup! |
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Nothing in particular. 2 years of "living" on boards like ARFcom, The Firing Line, The High Road, GlockTalk, Full-Auto etc, etc etc and getting good at looking at multiple on-line news sources (rather than the bullshit that's offered as "news" on the boob-tube). Everyday there is another report that just makes me go "WHAT THE FUCK?!?". Every day. Day after day. The stuff that Joe Sheeple never hears or reads about. The stuff that will NEVER get a second of airtime on the networks and if it does it will be spun so hard that it will bear no resemblance to the event that took place. If I hadn't went on line a few days after 9/11 to find out the answer to a seemingly simple question: "What do I have to do to purchase a gun in California" I would still be one of the batteries in the Matrix |
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In my neighborhood on the north edge of Phoenix there is a group of neighborhood boys in the seven to ten or so age range, about a dozen of them that are playing war almost every day. They have a pretty good mix of toy weapons and miscellaneous camo clothes. When I was a kid in the 80s we played WWII, never Vietnam strangely enough, these guys are current event hounds; they play Iraq or Afghanistan.
When I come home in BDUs, carrying my LBV, armor and ruck I have to stalk from my Jeep to the front door if I don't want to be inundated in questions about gear, tactics and the Army. It's actually pretty cool to see them at it. I think the root cause is the fact that the leader of the group has a mom that doesn't allow TV or computer time during daylight hours. |
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Army was all that we used to play. Whenever friends were over at the house, we'd raid my parent's closet and get a bunch of old boots and camo coats an junk. Of course, I'd always get the old steel pot helmet I found at the Eglin AFB DRMO and toy M-60 :D. Heck, we used to take toy guns to school, they didn't care. We'd have big battles on the playground during recess. Hard to imagine someone doing that now, only, oh, 8-10 years later, what with all the zero tolerance stuff.
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