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Posted: 2/14/2017 10:06:02 PM EDT
I am buying a house on 20 acres.   I will be mowing about 10 acres.  It is pretty flat.  Eventually I will get a tractor and bush hog and not mow all 10 acres but to start I can't afford both.

I am thinking about a Scag Tiger Cat II 61" with either 29 HP Kohler Command Pro EFI, or a 23 HP Kawasaki FX730V.  I know Kawasaki is highly regarded but the Kohler has fuel injection and 6 more horsepower.  What do experienced arfcommers think?

I am also going to research Hustler more for similarly priced models as well.

I used to have a Bad Boy Pup which was their cheapest commercial grade zero turn years ago.  It worked and was built tough but I was never impressed with the cut.  This was my only experience at all with zero turn mowers.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:13:09 PM EDT
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10 acres is a lot to cut with a zero turn unless its at least 60" cut.
Get a used tractor, ford 3000, 3910 with bushhog or finnish mower 72" cut.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:16:29 PM EDT
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You need a wider deck. That's a lot to mow with only a 5-foot cut
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:19:29 PM EDT
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You can mow multiple times the acreage per hour with a ZTR than any tractor.
You would need a large gang mower to even come close.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:20:44 PM EDT
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Kubota ZD, you are welcome...
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:21:52 PM EDT
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Scan Turf Tiger diesel 72".
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:23:38 PM EDT
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Scag with the Kawasaki, but agree10 actual acres of grass is a metric shit ton of mowing. Kubota also make a nice big diesel ZT. I have a tiger cat and mow about 2.5 acres.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:25:08 PM EDT
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Hustler 72
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:25:17 PM EDT
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I have two tiger cats and they are great compact machines. But if you're going to mow ten acres you need to get the larger framed heavier built turf tiger. The tiger cats are good for a couple acres at a crack but anything larger and I feel out gunned. My two mowers are 52" cut with the Kawasaki engines.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:26:17 PM EDT
[#9]
Scag
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:26:45 PM EDT
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10 acres is a lot to cut with a zero turn unless its at least 60" cut.
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lol
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:27:32 PM EDT
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Great suggestion. Also, check out a site called LAWNSITE.COM Ask the same question and you will get a ton of info from pro landscapers and weekend warriors.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:30:16 PM EDT
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Kubota ZD
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:30:49 PM EDT
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10 acres is a lot to cut with a zero turn unless its at least 60" cut.
Get a used tractor, ford 3000, 3910 with bushhog or finnish mower 72" cut.
lol
wat? For serious mowing you want a ZTR! My place has about 8 acres that I cut every week in about 3 hours with a John Deere 777 ZTR. A tractor is not even close in speed and a ZTR will provide a much better quality of cut. OP, look for dealer support and I would not have anything less than a 60" deck.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:32:09 PM EDT
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Sweet baby Jesus. 10 acre lawn?  I'd turn 8 of that into hay.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:33:09 PM EDT
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I'd look for a 72" deck if I was you.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:34:11 PM EDT
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Goats.  Lots and lots of goats.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:34:51 PM EDT
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I mow 7 acres with a 72" dixie chopper, and it is much faster than a 10' bushhog. By the time you include trimming and corners and around obstacles, it really isnt any slower than my 15' batwing behind the john deere.

If you wont be moving it off property, I would get the 72in, but they wont fit between the fenders of a normal utility trailer. Get a diesel if you can, if not skip the mulching blades. Keep the blades sharp.

Pay extra for the suspension models if you can, a zero turn will beat on you if you utilize their speed, especially ten acres worth.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:35:30 PM EDT
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I hope you're not planning on buying the 20 acre place my wife and I are about to look at. Its got about 10 acres to cut.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:35:59 PM EDT
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Hustler Super Z for that much acerage.  I went with a Bad Boy Outlaw XP last fall.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:41:16 PM EDT
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Ferris is supposed to have the smoothest ride/ suspension for ZTR. 10 acres is a lot of time in the saddle so Ferris might be a back saver for you. If they are out of your price range look at Simplicity ZTR. Ferris makes Simplicity. I use an Exmark Quest with a 48" deck with a 21.5 hp Kawasaki for 1 acre. Way too much engine but I like it that way for my thick Bermuda grass
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:43:10 PM EDT
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I have a Ferris 2000z zero turn that has a 61" cut.
It does fine for cutting my 6 acres, but if I had much more to cut I'd
probably want a larger deck.

The Ferris 3200Z is available with a 72" deck.

The big difference between Ferris mowers and others is that
it has 4 corner adjustable coil over shocks.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:44:21 PM EDT
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I hope you're not planning on buying the 20 acre place my wife and I are about to look at. Its got about 10 acres to cut.
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What county?
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:46:58 PM EDT
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This since you are going to need a tractor anyway...start collecting attachments
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:47:17 PM EDT
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ferris if you like your back 


ETA:  i bought a Ferris for way less than 10 acres and i love it.   its fast and smooth.  the suspension really works.   i checked out both Ferris and Simplicity extensively and the Ferris was simply more HD and not much more $$  
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:53:36 PM EDT
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What kind of grass? Go to lawsite.com and ask what the lawn pros in your region use. My Hustler Super Z with a 60" deck has been through hell for about 9 years and it still runs great, but I've read other deck designs cut Bahia grass better. Keep in mind that if your lawn isn't as smooth as a golf course you won't be able to use all of the advertised speed. Mine would beat me silly if I ran it full speed on my property.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 10:57:58 PM EDT
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Bale it
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:00:45 PM EDT
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I hope you're not planning on buying the 20 acre place my wife and I are about to look at. Its got about 10 acres to cut.
What county?


Lol, this could get good
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:01:06 PM EDT
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Grasshopper
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:01:39 PM EDT
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I am buying a house on 20 acres.   I will be mowing about 10 acres.  It is pretty flat.  Eventually I will get a tractor and bush hog and not mow all 10 acres but to start I can't afford both.

I am thinking about a Scag Tiger Cat II 61" with either 29 HP Kohler Command Pro EFI, or a 23 HP Kawasaki FX730V.  I know Kawasaki is highly regarded but the Kohler has fuel injection and 6 more horsepower.  What do experienced arfcommers think?

I am also going to research Hustler more for similarly priced models as well.

I used to have a Bad Boy Pup which was their cheapest commercial grade zero turn years ago.  It worked and was built tough but I was never impressed with the cut.  This was my only experience at all with zero turn mowers.
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You misspelled "John Deere"
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:02:16 PM EDT
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That's a lot of grass OP.  I used to mow 11 acres on my property but I have reduced it to about 5-7.  I am much happier now that I have a utility tractor with a 72" deck and a 54" JD Z930R zero turn.  

If you are going to mow all 10 acres with one machine and it's flat ground, I'd get a 72" ZT, preferably a diesel machine if you can afford it.  I like John Deere commercial grade ZT's, but I'm sure other makers like Scag and Hustler are just as good if not better (guys around here actually tell me that SCAG is the best).  Ferris is nice because they have suspension, but a good suspension seat can make most any machine comfortable.  Gravely makes a great mower for the money, I almost bought a Gravely Pro-Turn, but I stumbled upon a great deal on my John Deere.

I wouldn't rule out used equipment.   You may be able to get a nice/serviceable tractor with brush hog and ZT for the price of a new 72" ZT.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:02:22 PM EDT
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I mow 7 acres with a 72" dixie chopper, and it is much faster than a 10' bushhog. By the time you include trimming and corners and around obstacles, it really isnt any slower than my 15' batwing behind the john deere.

If you wont be moving it off property, I would get the 72in, but they wont fit between the fenders of a normal utility trailer. Get a diesel if you can, if not skip the mulching blades. Keep the blades sharp.

Pay extra for the suspension models if you can, a zero turn will beat on you if you utilize their speed, especially ten acres worth.
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Listen to this guy, he knows what he's talking about.

I have a 61" Scag turf tiger. I mow my shooting range, and it's in a real rough bottom.
I also mow several acres around my house.
It has the 26 hp Kawasaki fuel injection liquid cooled gas engine, and it's been a beast for 10 years.
The suspension seat is wonderful.

I used to mow with a 72" finish mower. There is no comparison as to speed. The ZTR scag is 3-4 times as fast because of its maneuverability.

I also have a Massey Ferguson tractor with a 10' Bush Hog.
I can mow twice as much yard with the ZTR because the mower is so much easier to manuever .
The tractor is good for long acreage runs but with trees and obstacles the mower can't be beat.

When I bought mine, I tested a Kubota diesel, kubota gas, Grasshopper, Dixie chopper and the Scag.
The Scag was the only one that a field of thick Bahia couldn't bog down and kill.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:03:13 PM EDT
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I mow a 2500 foot grass strip with a Skag Turf Tiger (61" Velocity deck).

Get it knocked out in about an hour.

Use it to mow the kids school grounds, the house and around the farm.

Been running solid for about 8 years I guess.

Can change blades in ten minutes with a Dewalt cordless impact wrench.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:10:21 PM EDT
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It really depends on the type of grass. If it is regular lawn grass, a commercial ZTR would work fine. However, if it is Bahia or some type of hay grass, you will need a tractor. What are you mowing?
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:13:52 PM EDT
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I have spent some time mowing medians and the scab is the way to go.  Bigger the better. 72" with diesel would be great. 60" or so would work too.  Bottom line  you will spend a lot of time on her. Get the most power you can, maintain it.

Bad boy kinda looks cool, but go scag
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:14:29 PM EDT
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I guess I should find out.  I don't close till the end of March.  Here is the place:

Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:14:54 PM EDT
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I am buying a house on 20 acres.   I will be mowing about 10 acres.  It is pretty flat.  Eventually I will get a tractor and bush hog and not mow all 10 acres but to start I can't afford both.

I am thinking about a Scag Tiger Cat II 61" with either 29 HP Kohler Command Pro EFI, or a 23 HP Kawasaki FX730V.  I know Kawasaki is highly regarded but the Kohler has fuel injection and 6 more horsepower.  What do experienced arfcommers think?

I am also going to research Hustler more for similarly priced models as well.

I used to have a Bad Boy Pup which was their cheapest commercial grade zero turn years ago.  It worked and was built tough but I was never impressed with the cut.  This was my only experience at all with zero turn mowers.
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We mowed about 10 acres for over 10 years. Lots of trees & fence posts to wiggle around plus it wasn't dead flat. Used a 60" Dixie Chopper with a 25 hp Koehler Command gas engine. FYI A 72" deck needs flat ground or it's going to scalp like crazy PLUS it needs clear grass because it just doesn't wiggle around obstacles well/fast. FWIW - Get a good suspension seat & investigate ones with some real suspension. Demo if the dealer will let you. I went through 2 sets of blades a year - get a 3 pack  & supplies from DH Thomas (?). Much cheaper than any dealer. 
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:16:58 PM EDT
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If you are doing a legit 10 acres of lawn you will want a serious machine.  So I suggest a john deere 1600 series with the 62" middle deck with dual 42" wing decks.   I got a buddy with one and its the tits.  

Im sure the thing was stupid money and hes super pissed that his wife wont use it. She is particular to the diesel grasshopper they had before he bought the big fish of mowers.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:17:41 PM EDT
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Hustler
because we don't want people with good taste,
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:22:08 PM EDT
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3 yrs on my Hustler 52 inch.
3 acres.

Love it. No issues. Has taken a beaten.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:24:03 PM EDT
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I guess I should find out.  I don't close till the end of March.  Here is the place:
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It really depends on the type of grass. If it is regular lawn grass, a commercial ZTR would work fine. However, if it is Bahia or some type of hay grass, you will need a tractor. What are you mowing?


I guess I should find out.  I don't close till the end of March.  Here is the place:


The reason I ask is because I have 10 acres of Bahia and use a 60" JD Z930. It takes me about 12 - 14 hours every 2 weeks not including edging and stuff around the house. My neighbor has 10 acres of centipede and it takes him 4-5 hours on a pos mower.

Also, get the Kawasaki but min 25 hp.

ETA: Nice place btw...
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:31:27 PM EDT
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hustler 72 here

love it
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:34:40 PM EDT
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One acre is 99 inches wide and a mile long.  Let an edible animal eat most of the 10?

I have a 54" Hustler, very well built mower.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:35:09 PM EDT
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I would get a 60-72 inch of a solid commercial brand with the best local support.  We cut plenty of huge acreages with tractors and a 15 foot bat wing other than that I would get a comfortable zero because it will be faster than dragging a 5-9' mower.  Especially if you have a good suspension

I have started recommending Ferris to people recently over Exmark and we have a fleet of Exmarks.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:37:58 PM EDT
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Just pick one.  As long as it has separate pumps and wheel motors and a welded deck.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:43:43 PM EDT
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The reason I ask is because I have 10 acres of Bahia and use a 60" JD Z930. It takes me about 12 - 14 hours every 2 weeks not including edging and stuff around the house. My neighbor has 10 acres of centipede and it takes him 4-5 hours on a pos mower.

Also, get the Kawasaki but min 25 hp.

ETA: Nice place btw...
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What does this grass look like.

I may mow it once and decide the hell with that and only maintain 5 acres.

Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:44:47 PM EDT
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cows
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:52:17 PM EDT
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Dixon commercial grade. Father/company I work for has had a silvertip for going on 10 years with only minor maintenance issues.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:57:19 PM EDT
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kubota diesel or the gravely
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 11:57:24 PM EDT
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What does this grass look like.

I may mow it once and decide the hell with that and only maintain 5 acres.
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The reason I ask is because I have 10 acres of Bahia and use a 60" JD Z930. It takes me about 12 - 14 hours every 2 weeks not including edging and stuff around the house. My neighbor has 10 acres of centipede and it takes him 4-5 hours on a pos mower.

Also, get the Kawasaki but min 25 hp.

ETA: Nice place btw...


What does this grass look like.

I may mow it once and decide the hell with that and only maintain 5 acres.


Yea, not lawn grass. It looks like something that is designed to grow faster than livestock can eat it. Possibly Argentine Bahia. You can till it or round-up it and then disc it, then put lawn seed down and a ZTR will work.

Or get a tractor to mow.

I am about to tear mine out and plant Centipede.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 12:00:11 AM EDT
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Pissing in the wind..........
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