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Posted: 1/5/2012 5:20:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/5/2012 5:21:28 PM EDT by Floofy]
Who think closing the borders will solve drug problems in America. It's just like saying banning guns will stop all the murders. Ignorance at it's finest.

I made a thread because I didn't feel this would be appropriate in the Utah LEO thread, but felt like it needed to be addressed after seeing some of the crazy replies it brought up. Get a fucking education, that shit is just ridiculous.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:21:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Floofy:
Who think closing the borders will solve drug problems in America. It's just like saying banning guns will stop all the murders. Ignorance at it's finest.

Get a fucking education, that shit is just ridiculous.


You get an education.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:22:28 PM EDT
I'm not concerned about the drugs, I'm concerned about the illegal aliens.

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Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:22:46 PM EDT
Dave?
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:23:21 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:23:33 PM EDT
Yes it wont stop drugs. But it will help stop the flow of non-tax paying illegals.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:23:38 PM EDT
Is that Imbroglio?
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:23:38 PM EDT
Fuck it, in for the fucking train wreck.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:23:40 PM EDT
Most people who want to close the borders oppose uncontrolled immigration.

While I don't support outright closing the borders (and suspect few do), we must cut down illegal immigration. We can't fix it all at the border, but that is a part of the solution.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:23:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By alphabavo:
I'm not concerned about the drugs, I'm concerned about the illegal aliens.

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Different discussion, it's hard to bait into a troll thread with small buzzwords like marijuana, so I'm stuck using big buzzwords like borders.

Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:24:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GLHX2112:
Fuck it, in for the fucking train wreck.


Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:24:24 PM EDT
Wouldn't be a drug problem if it was legal and buyable like alcohol and tobacco.

Prohibition. History. Fuck me.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:24:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Floofy:
Who think closing the borders will solve drug problems in America. It's just like saying banning guns will stop all the murders. Ignorance at it's finest.

I made a thread because I didn't feel this would be appropriate in the Utah LEO thread, but felt like it needed to be addressed after seeing some of the crazy replies it brought up. Get a fucking education, that shit is just ridiculous.


Who here has claimed this?
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:25:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Paul:
How come this open borders thing is so popular with the Texans?

I just don't get it.


I just think the belief that the drug problem stems from the availability of drugs is a joke.

While we're on the subject though, a simpler path to citizenship for productive aliens would benefit the nation.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:25:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By alphabavo:
I'm not concerned about the drugs, I'm concerned about the illegal aliens.

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+1
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:25:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Floofy:
Who think closing the borders will solve drug problems in America. It's just like saying banning guns will stop all the murders. Ignorance at it's finest.

I made a thread because I didn't feel this would be appropriate in the Utah LEO thread, but felt like it needed to be addressed after seeing some of the crazy replies it brought up. Get a fucking education, that shit is just ridiculous.


Won't solve the drug problem...but sure would help, as well as helping with many other "problem areas"

Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:26:11 PM EDT
I like how people say "close the border" like it is a simple task without comprehending everything it would take to close the border.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:26:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/5/2012 5:26:59 PM EDT by JSteensen]
Drugs and Human Smuggling are two separate issues. Yes, they are perpetrated by the same groups, but that's no different than the mob fixing casinos and running prostitution rings - sometimes they overlap.

There is a stretch of the Huachuca Mountains down here where it is virtually impossible to put a fence...the terrain is that bad.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:26:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Paul:
How come this open borders thing is so popular with the Texans?

I just don't get it.


Not This Texan!
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:27:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 70satvert:
Originally Posted By Floofy:
Who think closing the borders will solve drug problems in America. It's just like saying banning guns will stop all the murders. Ignorance at it's finest.

I made a thread because I didn't feel this would be appropriate in the Utah LEO thread, but felt like it needed to be addressed after seeing some of the crazy replies it brought up. Get a fucking education, that shit is just ridiculous.


Who here has claimed this?


Check the thread about the Utah officers (RIP) getting shot during a drug raid. You'll find several of them.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:28:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By alphabavo:
I'm not concerned about the drugs, I'm concerned about the illegal aliens.

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Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:28:47 PM EDT
Closing the borders do away with the drug problem if we deport all drug addicts and drug dealers to Mexico.


Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:28:48 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:28:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sirostac:
Originally Posted By Paul:
How come this open borders thing is so popular with the Texans?

I just don't get it.


Not This Texan!


Ever wonder why Texas has one of the lowest living costs in the nation?
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:29:26 PM EDT
I bet they cant hear you
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:29:50 PM EDT
when i hear that statement, i think redneck or hillbilly
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:30:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Originally Posted By Floofy:
Who think closing the borders will solve drug problems in America. It's just like saying banning guns will stop all the murders. Ignorance at it's finest.

Get a fucking education, that shit is just ridiculous.


You get an education.


Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:30:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Floofy:
Originally Posted By alphabavo:
I'm not concerned about the drugs, I'm concerned about the illegal aliens.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


Different discussion, it's hard to bait into a troll thread with small buzzwords like marijuana, so I'm stuck using big buzzwords like borders.



Did you just admit to starting a thread to troll?

Hope you like the banhammer.....

Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:31:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Credge:

Wouldn't be a drug problem if it was legal and buyable like alcohol and tobacco.

Prohibition. History. Fuck me.

Wouldn't have dual-use smuggling network, either.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:31:39 PM EDT
Illegal Alien spends 374 days in Fresno Hospital

Story here: http://www.fresnobee.com/2012/01/03/2669593/man-will-leave-fresno-hospital.html
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:34:02 PM EDT
I seem to remember that when Kiki Camerana was killed the Reagan administration closed down the border and it caused the Mexicans to clean up their act real quick, if only for a little time.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:36:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sterling18:

Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Originally Posted By Floofy:
Who think closing the borders will solve drug problems in America. It's just like saying banning guns will stop all the murders. Ignorance at it's finest.

Get a fucking education, that shit is just ridiculous.


You get an education.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_T8Z9f-Xvo_g/S_IqEUfIkQI/AAAAAAAAA_c/kWSfDtL9O1k/s1600/don%27t+feed+the+troll.jpg



You don't feed the troll.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:36:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Floofy:
Originally Posted By Paul:
How come this open borders thing is so popular with the Texans?

I just don't get it.


I just think the belief that the drug problem stems from the availability of drugs is a joke.

While we're on the subject though, a simpler path to citizenship for productive aliens would benefit the nation.


Yeah that's what we need with unemployment > 10%, more people to employ.

Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:37:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/5/2012 5:38:17 PM EDT by sterling18]

Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Originally Posted By sterling18:

Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Originally Posted By Floofy:
Who think closing the borders will solve drug problems in America. It's just like saying banning guns will stop all the murders. Ignorance at it's finest.

Get a fucking education, that shit is just ridiculous.


You get an education.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_T8Z9f-Xvo_g/S_IqEUfIkQI/AAAAAAAAA_c/kWSfDtL9O1k/s1600/don%27t+feed+the+troll.jpg



You don't feed the troll.


Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:37:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Renegade13B:
I like how people say "close the border" like it is a simple task without comprehending everything it would take to close the border.


You like that, huh?

I like people so fucking weak that they think a common sense America is incapable of preventing illegals from overrunning our nation and skewing the electoral process to the point of failure.

That's what I like,

Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:38:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:38:43 PM EDT
# 2 nails it, although 1st post was appropriate.

Originally Posted By alphabavo:
I'm not concerned about the drugs, I'm concerned about the illegal aliens.

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Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:39:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Originally Posted By sterling18:

Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Originally Posted By Floofy:
Who think closing the borders will solve drug problems in America. It's just like saying banning guns will stop all the murders. Ignorance at it's finest.

Get a fucking education, that shit is just ridiculous.


You get an education.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_T8Z9f-Xvo_g/S_IqEUfIkQI/AAAAAAAAA_c/kWSfDtL9O1k/s1600/don%27t+feed+the+troll.jpg



You don't feed the troll.


Your mom goes to college.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:40:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By gitarmac:

Originally Posted By Floofy:
Originally Posted By Paul:
How come this open borders thing is so popular with the Texans?

I just don't get it.


I just think the belief that the drug problem stems from the availability of drugs is a joke.

While we're on the subject though, a simpler path to citizenship for productive aliens would benefit the nation.


Yeah that's what we need with unemployment > 10%, more people to employ.



I wonder how many people would be unemployed without 99 weeks of benefits?

I'm sure no one buying new homes for $120,000 or getting new roofs installed in texas complain about having to pay so little.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:42:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/5/2012 5:44:03 PM EDT by Tekka]
Human beings are tribal and like to form groups and hate on other groups. Watching people from just about any country talk about the same crap has made me cynical about it. Close the boarder and people will just move on to another group they think they are besieged by. Knowing the media and public opinion most Americans would probably start thinking the Chinese are going to invade.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:43:46 PM EDT
Closing the border only treats the symptom, not the root problem. Illegals would still come over. We simply don't have the manpower or the money to completely lock down the border, or even come close. There is a way we could dramatically reduce the number of illegal aliens (and US citizens) that are a drag on our economy. Eliminate welfare and free healthcare for anything more than life, limb, or eyesight.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:44:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Paul:
How come this open borders thing is so popular with the Texans?

I just don't get it.


Some citizens of TX have family members (extended and/or immediate) who use the "open borders" as their passport...

There, I said it.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:45:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/5/2012 5:46:24 PM EDT by E-Mag]

Originally Posted By Floofy:
Originally Posted By gitarmac:

Originally Posted By Floofy:
Originally Posted By Paul:
How come this open borders thing is so popular with the Texans?

I just don't get it.


I just think the belief that the drug problem stems from the availability of drugs is a joke.

While we're on the subject though, a simpler path to citizenship for productive aliens would benefit the nation.


Yeah that's what we need with unemployment > 10%, more people to employ.



I wonder how many people would be unemployed without 99 weeks of benefits?

I'm sure no one buying new homes for $120,000 or getting new roofs installed in texas complain about having to pay so little.

I think 99 weeks was up awhile ago. If you have notices unemployment numbers are getting better and vary few jobs are being created. Wonder how that works we just stop counting a bunch of people.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:45:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 70satvert:
Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Originally Posted By sterling18:

Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Originally Posted By Floofy:
Who think closing the borders will solve drug problems in America. It's just like saying banning guns will stop all the murders. Ignorance at it's finest.

Get a fucking education, that shit is just ridiculous.


You get an education.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_T8Z9f-Xvo_g/S_IqEUfIkQI/AAAAAAAAA_c/kWSfDtL9O1k/s1600/don%27t+feed+the+troll.jpg



You don't feed the troll.


Your mom goes to college.


I bet I could post a thread with more posts than that there mountian.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:46:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By maleante:
Originally Posted By Paul:
How come this open borders thing is so popular with the Texans?

I just don't get it.


Some citizens of TX have family members (extended and/or immediate) who use the "open borders" as their passport...

There, I said it.


More of them have cheap homes and services supplied by those willing to do jobs for a fair price, or willing to do them period, while they eat two large pizzas and drink two liters of soda every night.

There, I said it.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:47:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By jmt1271:
Originally Posted By Renegade13B:
I like how people say "close the border" like it is a simple task without comprehending everything it would take to close the border.


You like that, huh?

I like people so fucking weak that they think a common sense America is incapable of preventing illegals from overrunning our nation and skewing the electoral process to the point of failure.

That's what I like,



I certainly implied no such thing. Closing the border is a task far grander than most comprehend, and it would never be as effective as some seem to think. There are far more important issues concerning illegal immigration (and the drug trade for that matter) than the ease of the border crossing.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:49:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DonS:
Most people who want to close the borders oppose uncontrolled immigration.

While I don't support outright closing the borders (and suspect few do), we must cut down illegal immigration. We can't fix it all at the border, but that is a part of the solution.

It's a BIG part of the solution.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:52:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Floofy:
Originally Posted By Paul:
How come this open borders thing is so popular with the Texans?

I just don't get it.


While we're on the subject though, a simpler path to citizenship for productive aliens would benefit the nation.

My idea of "productive" would immediately exclude 95% of them.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:53:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By M4:

Originally Posted By Floofy:
Originally Posted By Paul:
How come this open borders thing is so popular with the Texans?

I just don't get it.


While we're on the subject though, a simpler path to citizenship for productive aliens would benefit the nation.

My idea of "productive" would immediately exclude 95% of them.


Eliminate the reason that the unproductive ones are coming over here and you don't have to worry about closing the borders. They'll just stop coming.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:54:00 PM EDT
We should let the Air Force fight the drug war. A-10 pilots need something to do.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 5:54:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Floofy:
Who think closing the borders will solve drug problems in America. It's just like saying banning guns will stop all the murders. Ignorance at it's finest.

I made a thread because I didn't feel this would be appropriate in the Utah LEO thread, but felt like it needed to be addressed after seeing some of the crazy replies it brought up. Get a fucking education, that shit is just ridiculous.


Or hasn't ever worked in an industry where hispanics dominate the field. Answer me this: if the borders were closed completely, where the hell would all the sheetrock finishers and other largely hispanic dominated construction labor fields come from?

I know there aren't enough white and black (traditional Americans) to fill these roles. They don't exist.
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