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Posted: 9/15/2004 9:23:00 PM EST
I am 18, andI have aquired a half a dozen paperless guns. Should I keep waiting for things to come to the secondhand market, or start filling out 4473s?
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:24:09 PM EST
Just start labeling your guns "Duck Hunting Accident" and "Registered"
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:25:10 PM EST
I filled out 3 of them the other day. I wish I could carry ones with all my info already on it.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:27:12 PM EST

Good god NO!!!!

What ever you do, do not start filling out those forms.

Buy all of your stuff private party now and forever.

Be patient, you will get what you need.

I wish I had never touched one of those pee yellow forms.

And most men I know who made that mistake feel the same way.

(of course most men who own guns where I live are pretty cynical about our govt)

Zen

"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:31:14 PM EST
It doesn't matter ... if things get realllly bad you won't be using your own weapon anyway.

MT
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:40:43 PM EST
Your CCW should definantly have paperwork to go with it, as for guns you want off the books, I don't know about where you live, but every private seller here wants forms filled out along with numerous forms of ID. If you can get something with no paper all the more power to you, but depending on the state it could get annoying.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:44:38 PM EST
No way fill out that 4473!!

Paperless guns = SECURITY & FREEDOM!
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:45:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2004 9:46:10 PM EST by Alien]

Originally Posted By Mmanwitgun:
Your CCW should definantly have paperwork to go with it, as for guns you want off the books, I don't know about where you live, but every private seller here wants forms filled out along with numerous forms of ID. If you can get something with no paper all the more power to you, but depending on the state it could get annoying.



I think 18 is too young to get a CCW anywhere. I'm pretty positive it's 21, and I only leave it open to the realm of possibility that it might be 18 in certain some states because some states issue CCWs that allow for the carrying of ANY weapon, be it rifle, knife, etc.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:45:58 PM EST
Damn, how an I gonna get an RF94 and a SEAK without paper?
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:46:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By Alien:

Originally Posted By Mmanwitgun:
Your CCW should definantly have paperwork to go with it, as for guns you want off the books, I don't know about where you live, but every private seller here wants forms filled out along with numerous forms of ID. If you can get something with no paper all the more power to you, but depending on the state it could get annoying.



I think 18 is too young to get a CCW anywhere. I'm pretty positive it's 21, and I only leave it open to the realm of possibility that it might be 18 in certain some states because some states issue CCWs that allow for the carrying of ANY weapon, be it rifle, knife, etc.



There are a couple of states that allow it at age 18, but not mine.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:47:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2004 9:50:01 PM EST by Alien]

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Damn, how an I gonna get an RF94 and a SEAK without paper?



Isn't trying to intentionally avoid the 4473 form illegal? I mean it's one thing to buy a rifle in a private person to person transfer, but going through a proxy to purchase a rifle is different. The only way I could see you getting one is with a straw purchase unless you find one used and locally later down the road.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:48:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By Alien:

Originally Posted By Mmanwitgun:
Your CCW should definantly have paperwork to go with it, as for guns you want off the books, I don't know about where you live, but every private seller here wants forms filled out along with numerous forms of ID. If you can get something with no paper all the more power to you, but depending on the state it could get annoying.



I think 18 is too young to get a CCW anywhere. I'm pretty positive it's 21, and I only leave it open to the realm of possibility that it might be 18 in certain some states because some states issue CCWs that allow for the carrying of ANY weapon, be it rifle, knife, etc.



Hes to young for a CCW now, but he'll be 21 in no time.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:49:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By Alien:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Damn, how an I gonna get an RF94 and a SEAK without paper?



Is trying to intentionally avoid the 4473 form illegal? I mean it's one thing to buy a rifle in a private person to person transfer, but going through a proxy to purchase a rifle is different.



Going through a proxy sounds like an illegal straw purchase
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:50:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By Alien:
I think 18 is too young to get a CCW anywhere. I'm pretty positive it's 21, and I only leave it open to the realm of possibility that it might be 18 in certain some states because some states issue CCWs that allow for the carrying of ANY weapon, be it rifle, knife, etc.



You know what happens when yuo asume? I know 16 year olds who have had them in NH. In fact mabe they were 14???

mark
buda@TripleBreakProduc­ts.com
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 9:55:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2004 9:55:58 PM EST by Alien]

Originally Posted By budam:

Originally Posted By Alien:
I think 18 is too young to get a CCW anywhere. I'm pretty positive it's 21, and I only leave it open to the realm of possibility that it might be 18 in certain some states because some states issue CCWs that allow for the carrying of ANY weapon, be it rifle, knife, etc.



You know what happens when yuo asume? I know 16 year olds who have had them in NH. In fact mabe they were 14???

mark
buda@TripleBreakProduc­ts.com



They issue Pistol/Revolver Licenses to 14 year olds in New Hampshire?

Link Posted: 9/15/2004 10:03:27 PM EST
No straw purchases, just private party.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 10:08:21 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 10:10:58 PM EST
Oh you may have to use it at least once
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 10:11:27 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 10:13:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:
What would possibly be the reason to not fill one out?

Do you think .gov assumes there are no firearms in your house?

Of course one of them is in my house. Ask the little shiteater for a price and an addy to send the funds.



Holy shit Steve thats funny. I'll let him know. You going to Gunstock this year?
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 10:15:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2004 10:16:42 PM EST by bobbyjack]

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
I am 18, andI have aquired a half a dozen paperless guns. Should I keep waiting for things to come to the secondhand market, or start filling out 4473s?



You have allready answered it so let me be the first to say no!!

Because at 18 you cannot own one!! To try and fill out a 4473 would make you a criminal!!


Wait till you grow up then buy them legaly!!!


Bob
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 10:16:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By bobbyjack:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
I am 18, andI have aquired a half a dozen paperless guns. Should I keep waiting for things to come to the secondhand market, or start filling out 4473s?



You have allready answered it so let be the first to say no!!

Because at 18 you cannot own one!! To try and fill out a 4473 would make you a criminal!!


Wait till you grow up then buy them legaly!!!


Bob



Huh? Longarms Bobby,not handguns.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 10:26:08 PM EST
And thats what pops my pepper,if you can own a long gun then you should damn well have the right to own a pistol!!!

There are only a few pistols and revolvers that have the energy transfer of most any rifle(long gun)!

I think we should ban all long guns(make every body have Mak-nines,Tarus and Berettas) the police would feel much better!

Bob
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