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Posted: 1/18/2013 6:52:57 PM EDT
So, I'm rotating my collection a bit, and after I sell my PSL, I'm going to have some gun money to spend.
Looking around my LGS, I found myself looking at a S&W E Series, particularly a SW1911TA. 
I know it probably doesn't appeal to JMB purists with it's external extractor and rail, but it seems to be a damn nice piece. What does the hive think about them? Should I be looking at something else? For those wondering, I already have a 1911, but it's a 1970s production Colt MkIV Series 70 that was both my first gun and given to me by a loved one, so I think I want that to go to safe queen status at some point. |
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Posted: 1/18/2013 6:54:17 PM EDT
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I've wanted an E series 1911 PD since they were first released.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 6:56:29 PM EDT
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Not a S&W fan but I like that!!!
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Posted: 1/18/2013 6:59:04 PM EDT
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I have a first generation S&W 1911sc, it has been flawless and is my carry gun.
I picked up a S&W 1911 performance center version today. After it is proven I plan to carry it. New performance center 1911 |
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Posted: 1/18/2013 7:25:44 PM EDT
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Reading reviews is not helping my situation any.
I hope temptation doesn't outrun my patience. |
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Posted: 1/18/2013 7:31:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2013 7:32:38 PM EDT
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talked about this one with my wife ever since i saw my first one in MS
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Posted: 1/18/2013 7:35:28 PM EDT
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I have a first run JRD prefix SW1911 that I got for my 17th birthday in 2003 and it has been one of the most amazing firearms I've ever had the pleasure to own and shoot.
It's been used in USPSA, countless (11,000+rds.) range sessions and my carry gun for five years until my Glock moved to primary use. I still carry it occasionally. 
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Posted: 1/19/2013 5:33:49 AM EDT
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You guys are doing a terrible job of talking me out of it.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 5:36:36 AM EDT
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Why would you sell a PSL?
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Posted: 1/19/2013 5:42:54 AM EDT
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There is only one cure for the malady that afflicts you...
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Posted: 1/19/2013 5:43:51 AM EDT
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There is only one cure for the malady that afflicts you... MORE COWBELL!!!!!! |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 5:44:11 AM EDT
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Quoted: There is only one cure for the malady that afflicts you... Buy eeeeet! |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 5:47:36 AM EDT
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Do what I do. Wait a couple of days. If you still want it, can afford it and will use it then get it.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 10:22:47 AM EDT
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Why would you sell a PSL? Because it's worth more to the market than it's worth to me. The prices have gone way up the last couple years, and I'd rather have some finer quality guns. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 10:46:16 AM EDT
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I love my S&W 1911 9mm ps.
all my other 1911s are colts. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 10:54:52 AM EDT
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I can't decide if I want that or a M&P 45 full size...
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Posted: 1/19/2013 10:56:24 AM EDT
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Feature-wise I like it a lot too, but the scallop slide serrations are kinda weird to me
Have they fixed the extractor pin drift issue? |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 10:56:33 AM EDT
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They are very attractive guns.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 10:57:02 AM EDT
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I like it.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 1:40:32 PM EDT
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Feature-wise I like it a lot too, but the scallop slide serrations are kinda weird to me
Have they fixed the extractor pin drift issue? They've switched to a roll pin. Also, I know how to use Loctite, so I'm not worried about it. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 2:35:26 PM EDT
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I have an E-series. It's the stainless one or whatever it is. I love it, accurate as hell. The fish scale serrations took some time to get used to, but I like them. The one you have pictured is nice, I really like the light rail.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 3:04:44 PM EDT
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I am also pondering a Sig, but the idea of buying a 1911 made by a foreign company is odd to me.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 4:07:54 PM EDT
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I am also pondering a Sig, but the idea of buying a 1911 made by a foreign company is odd to me. Like Springfield?
The E-series are nice dude. Sig also makes a damn good 1911 for the price. Very good triggers and nice features. Albeit usually a little garrish. The S&W's are a little showy like Kimber, but still subtle and functional. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 4:17:17 PM EDT
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Don't do it man.
Ejection on S&W 1911's is all over the place. Sometimes it ejects to 3 o'clock, sometimes 2 o'clock, sometimes they chuck brass back into my forehead, sometimes the brass barely comes out and rolls off the rear sight, etc. Any place you can possibly think of brass going and one of my S&W 1911's has thrown brass there. I've got both a 9mm Pro and a E-series commander with the same problems. If you can get a 1911 with a real extractor, avoid the S&W stuff. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 4:31:21 PM EDT
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I have this exact piece, the pic does not do the fit and finish justice, it is very well done and very tight. Not the most accurate 1911 I own (That is a SIG Nightmare that puts all 8 in one hole at 15 yds, all day) The TA shoots well, is 100% reilable and exquisite to handle and look at. The ejection is a bit irratic as has been reported, but nothing that would be in any way a deal breaker for me. The night sights are very bright, the trigger is crisp, the checkering and cuts are laser sharp and there are no tooling marks even on the interior. One of my favorite 1911s to be sure.
If its a solid deal pull the trigger bro. BA Quoted:
So, I'm rotating my collection a bit, and after I sell my PSL, I'm going to have some gun money to spend. Looking around my LGS, I found myself looking at a S&W E Series, particularly a SW1911TA. http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson2/upload/images/firearms/zoom_lg/108409_01_lg.jpg I know it probably doesn't appeal to JMB purists with it's external extractor and rail, but it seems to be a damn nice piece. What does the hive think about them? Should I be looking at something else? For those wondering, I already have a 1911, but it's a 1970s production Colt MkIV Series 70 that was both my first gun and given to me by a loved one, so I think I want that to go to safe queen status at some point. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 5:41:33 PM EDT
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Don't do it man. Ejection on S&W 1911's is all over the place. Sometimes it ejects to 3 o'clock, sometimes 2 o'clock, sometimes they chuck brass back into my forehead, sometimes the brass barely comes out and rolls off the rear sight, etc. Any place you can possibly think of brass going and one of my S&W 1911's has thrown brass there. I've got both a 9mm Pro and a E-series commander with the same problems. If you can get a 1911 with a real extractor, avoid the S&W stuff. I have a 1911 with a "real extractor." The ejection on it sometimes reminds me of the G19 I used to have.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 6:28:58 PM EDT
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I am also pondering a Sig, but the idea of buying a 1911 made by a foreign company is odd to me. Like Springfield?
The E-series are nice dude. Sig also makes a damn good 1911 for the price. Very good triggers and nice features. Albeit usually a little garrish. The S&W's are a little showy like Kimber, but still subtle and functional. I talked to the Springfield rep that supports my LGS, and he wasn't really certain how high up the model line one had to go to be sure you're getting a 1911 that was made in the US. The E Series is a target of opportunity of sorts. And in this market, when it's gone, it's gone. Much like my PSL. It's like a race.
If the E Series goes before my PSL, I will have to rethink what 1911 what I want to get. Or if maybe I want to look at something different altogether. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 6:32:48 PM EDT
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Love mine (actually claimed by my wife). Quality wise I'd put up there with the TRPs I've had if not slightly above them. My only two complaints with the gun is the finish could be nicer, like SAs armory coat and I wish they had used the same sight cut as Springfield.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 6:39:30 PM EDT
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I am also pondering a Sig, but the idea of buying a 1911 made by a foreign company is odd to me. Like Springfield?
The E-series are nice dude. Sig also makes a damn good 1911 for the price. Very good triggers and nice features. Albeit usually a little garrish. The S&W's are a little showy like Kimber, but still subtle and functional. I talked to the Springfield rep that supports my LGS, and he wasn't really certain how high up the model line one had to go to be sure you're getting a 1911 that was made in the US. The E Series is a target of opportunity of sorts. And in this market, when it's gone, it's gone. Much like my PSL. It's like a race.
If the E Series goes before my PSL, I will have to rethink what 1911 what I want to get. Or if maybe I want to look at something different altogether. Would likely have to be a Professional, the TRP uses frames out of Brazil IIRC. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 6:40:01 PM EDT
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I have wanted a 1911 for sometime now. I am already a S&W M&P owner, and this would be right up my alley.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 6:55:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2013 8:04:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/20/2013 3:10:22 AM EDT
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Don't do it man. Ejection on S&W 1911's is all over the place. Sometimes it ejects to 3 o'clock, sometimes 2 o'clock, sometimes they chuck brass back into my forehead, sometimes the brass barely comes out and rolls off the rear sight, etc. Any place you can possibly think of brass going and one of my S&W 1911's has thrown brass there. I've got both a 9mm Pro and a E-series commander with the same problems. If you can get a 1911 with a real extractor, avoid the S&W stuff. I have a 1911 with a "real extractor." The ejection on it sometimes reminds me of the G19 I used to have. I'm not sure if you're saying that's good or bad, but at least a traditional 1911 extractor can be tuned. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 12:48:23 PM EDT
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Don't do it man. Ejection on S&W 1911's is all over the place. Sometimes it ejects to 3 o'clock, sometimes 2 o'clock, sometimes they chuck brass back into my forehead, sometimes the brass barely comes out and rolls off the rear sight, etc. Any place you can possibly think of brass going and one of my S&W 1911's has thrown brass there. I've got both a 9mm Pro and a E-series commander with the same problems. If you can get a 1911 with a real extractor, avoid the S&W stuff. I have a 1911 with a "real extractor." The ejection on it sometimes reminds me of the G19 I used to have. I'm not sure if you're saying that's good or bad, but at least a traditional 1911 extractor can be tuned. My G19 was craptastic. I like the idea of an external extractor because it should theoretically be a drop in part that doesn't need fitting. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 12:49:26 PM EDT
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You should be looking at NFA toys instead of 1911s.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 1:00:26 PM EDT
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You should be looking at NFA toys instead of 1911s. I'd consider that if NFA transactions weren't such a pain in the dick. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 3:50:38 PM EDT
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You should be looking at NFA toys instead of 1911s. I'd consider that if NFA transactions weren't such a pain in the dic. Not as bad as you think
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Posted: 1/20/2013 4:34:16 PM EDT
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You should be looking at NFA toys instead of 1911s. I'd consider that if NFA transactions weren't such a pain in the dic. Not as bad as you think The wait is how long? |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 4:36:17 PM EDT
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You should be looking at NFA toys instead of 1911s. I'd consider that if NFA transactions weren't such a pain in the dic. Not as bad as you think The wait is how long? less than a pregnancy. life is short. send your F4 into Atlanta. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 4:57:52 PM EDT
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You should be looking at NFA toys instead of 1911s. I'd consider that if NFA transactions weren't such a pain in the dic. Not as bad as you think The wait is how long? less than a pregnancy. life is short. send your F4 into Atlanta. 
Doesn't matter how long the wait is.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 5:07:20 PM EDT
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I have a stainless pre-E series SW1911. Since the introduction of the E-Series, they have brought down the pricepoint by about 20%, at least on the model that I have- which is surprising, since I feel that they actually made the pistol classier with the E-series redesign. I don't shoot mine much, I haven't fired mine in just over a year (in .45, about 6-8 months as a .22). I was in love with 1911 type pistols before I bought mine, but have been more meh since. Mine is very accurate and has been 100% reliable with ACT and metalform mags. I was thinking about selling it a few times, but have decided against that, since that pistol will probably be my prize pig if proposed legislation here in Connecticut passes.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 5:16:59 PM EDT
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I was interested until I read this thread, hopefully they have the issues worked out by now, but I don't think I could chance it for that much money.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 5:19:21 PM EDT
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I also have the exact Melonited TA model as pictured in the OP and agree with the other owner...really tight, very heavy spring, nice shooter, a work of art. The Scandium round butt Commander would be a much better conceal carry gun IMO. I alternate a SF x300 and an Insight M3 light. I got mine to have a railed 1911, but like I mentioned, not so much for concealed carry even though I knew that when I bought it. Also, not alot of decent, snug fitting holsters for a railed 1911. Things to consider before passing on the E- Scandium Commander.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:55:46 PM EDT
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I was interested until I read this thread, hopefully they have the issues worked out by now, but I don't think I could chance it for that much money. I found that thread a day or two ago, and after I read it, I sent America-first an IM asking for an update. Apparently, he's been running the crap out of it without issue since then. He said the OEM recoil springs wear out prematurely, but he's had good luck with a Wolf 18.5lbs spring. He posted a pic of it above. |
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Posted: 1/21/2013 6:56:20 AM EDT
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I also have the exact Melonited TA model as pictured in the OP and agree with the other owner...really tight, very heavy spring, nice shooter, a work of art. The Scandium round butt Commander would be a much better conceal carry gun IMO. I alternate a SF x300 and an Insight M3 light. I got mine to have a railed 1911, but like I mentioned, not so much for concealed carry even though I knew that when I bought it. Also, not alot of decent, snug fitting holsters for a railed 1911. Things to consider before passing on the E- Scandium Commander. The black TA is the one in stock locally, and I really like the looks of it. Holsters aren't much of a concern because I'll never carry it unless I get into competition. |
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Posted: 1/22/2013 3:27:08 AM EDT
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Don't do it man. Ejection on S&W 1911's is all over the place. Sometimes it ejects to 3 o'clock, sometimes 2 o'clock, sometimes they chuck brass back into my forehead, sometimes the brass barely comes out and rolls off the rear sight, etc. Any place you can possibly think of brass going and one of my S&W 1911's has thrown brass there. I've got both a 9mm Pro and a E-series commander with the same problems. If you can get a 1911 with a real extractor, avoid the S&W stuff. I have a 1911 with a "real extractor." The ejection on it sometimes reminds me of the G19 I used to have. I'm not sure if you're saying that's good or bad, but at least a traditional 1911 extractor can be tuned. My G19 was craptastic. I like the idea of an external extractor because it should theoretically be a drop in part that doesn't need fitting. Theory != reality. Honestly I wish I knew what was wrong. BOTH of my S&W 1911's eject incredibly inconsistently. My M&P's and 3rd gen guns don't have the problem, but the 1911's are all over the place. I've tried replacing springs and ejectors and the problem persists. The only thing that makes sense is the extractor, but those I'm stuck with since they are proprietary, "factory only" parts. And of course S&W customer services sucks. |
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Posted: 1/22/2013 4:23:26 AM EDT
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SIG 1911's are made here in the US. They are also the most accurate out of the box factory guns I have used (I have 3 SIG's but have owned Colts, Les Baer, Kimbers, Springfields, Smith....etc) but the Nightmare Fastback is very, very accurate (like bullseye competition accurate) and 100% reliable, my Scorpion is the same story except a bit less accurate but still more accurate than my Smith TA, and I love the G10 mag funnel grip on the scorpion, fits my hand like it grew there.Triggers are crisp not bowling ball heavy like my Springers or spongy like the Colt/Kimber. The best trigger on any factory gun I have ever felt is my Dan Wesson ECO, glass rod rifle trigger on that piece, carry it alot......Looking at getting a DW 10mm sometime...
Did I mention I like 1911's? SIG, the current Smith TA, Dan Wesson, all GTG bro....... BA Quoted:
I am also pondering a Sig, but the idea of buying a 1911 made by a foreign company is odd to me. |
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Posted: 1/22/2013 4:30:56 AM EDT
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I was interested until I read this thread, hopefully they have the issues worked out by now, but I don't think I could chance it for that much money. That was my thread; Smith & Wesson replaced the pistol and I like my E Series 1911TA a lot. The original pistol was a very early production model and the necessary production changes, many of them directly based on the deficiencies of my own gun, have been made. Buy with confidence. |
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Posted: 1/22/2013 4:44:33 AM EDT
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You really like that PMC Bronze. Actually; I do. It's proven to be extremely accurate in all my .45s and I go through more than a case a month of PMC Bronze between 9mm and .45ACP. Unfortunately; the $14.99/ box days for the .45 seem to be gone. |
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Posted: 1/22/2013 4:47:38 AM EDT
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The wife and I have matching S&W 1911sc's. We love them. No complaints.
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