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Posted: 8/24/2004 4:26:50 AM EST
So I go into my favorite gun shop here in Jacksonville and ask my favorite gun store owner if he has any FN FAL knock-offs HK-91/G3 knock-offs or anything else like this. So he says, "Well, haven't you thought of an M1A?" I said yes but, I don't want to spend $1400. I was looking for something decent in the $500-$800 range. So he says, "How about a brand new, never fired, with box and paperwork Loaded Standard M1A for $1100. So I put down a deposit and in a month or two it will be mine.

What do you think? Good deal or not. I will say it is an absolutely beautiful gun. Never fired one though.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 4:29:20 AM EST
Sounds like a good price
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 4:32:18 AM EST
Great price!

I paid like 1000 for one of my standard M1As.



Link Posted: 8/24/2004 4:34:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 7:25:19 AM EST by SHIVAN]
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 4:35:02 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 4:46:48 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 4:47:09 AM EST
Springfield Armory has been having QC problems lately.

I beleive our own John91948 had his fly apart in the first ten rounds fired.

I've heard a few other complaints as well.



Link Posted: 8/24/2004 4:48:16 AM EST
my .02

If that "brand new, never fired" M1A is of recent manufacture, I'd pass on it.

Link Posted: 8/24/2004 4:54:05 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 4:59:09 AM EST
yup, gotta sell off the old stuff, it makes a shop no money sitting there
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 6:45:27 AM EST
hm, cheaper than my DSA FAL
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 7:16:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:
A NEW loaded for $1100 is pretty damn good if with walnut stock and full compliment of factory accessories.

I believe I sold a lightly used Loaded with some extra mags for $1100.......




hhehehehehhehe, I recall more like $950! And it is a sweet shooter!
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 7:19:44 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 7:21:46 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 7:22:22 AM EST
I love my FAL
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 7:26:16 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 7:30:36 AM EST
My new Springfield is good, and I would only buy a DSA FAL, the cheaper ones have more quality issues than Springfield does. Plus I have had great customer service with Springfield.

The AR-10's have also seemed to have quality with the older ones falling apart and the new ones seem to have FTF/FTE issues.

I will get a DSA FAL one of these days and after that I hope to get a .308 AR. Hopefully the Bushmaster ones will go down in price.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 7:31:35 AM EST
Decent deal...I paid about the same for mine...

Just finished a sniper course with it...my highlights was hitting steel 12"x12" plates from 800 in high wind consistently.

I recommend using M118LR should you do ANY extended range work (beyond 300)

If you do place a mount on it get an ARMS18 or a Enterprise Arms...don't do the SA mount - it is unsat.

You'll love the M1A - it is super bitchin
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 7:32:43 AM EST
I wouldn't be comfortable buying a Springfield these days. The QC problems are more than I care to sort out.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 7:33:20 AM EST
I'm thinking about picking up a .308 pretty soon as well....

Which is better - a FAL (probably from DSA) or an HK91 ?
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 7:33:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By wiggy762:
Not to burst your bubble....but it seems the (possible) QC issues with SA may be real and not gonna go away anytime soon.

May want to look at a used M1A for your price range in order to miss the (possible) QC issues.

May also want to look into an AR10 from Armalite. Similar in operation to our beloved AR15.



Or Bushy BAR-10
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 7:37:50 AM EST
The price sounds about right for a Walnut stocked standard M1A. I think you did well and I imagine that the dealer was trying to slim down his inventory hence the deal. As for SA QC problems, I don't think I'd worry about that a whole lot. Sure, I've heard the stories too and though I believe them, I also know that you hear 90% of customer complaints but only about 13% of feedback from satisfied customers. Its just the nature of business. SA will stand behind the product if anything is wrong.

Your awakening will be in buying magazines. USGI mags are going for no cheaper than about $35 each with many over $40. I suggest snooping over to battlerifles.com to get lots of good info about the types of mags to get or not get.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 7:40:19 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 8:36:47 AM EST
One option a lot of folks neglect is to get an M1 Garand and rebarrel it to 308. It'll give you rock solid performance, perhaps not as accurate as an M1A or as capable of taking a scope, but at a fraction of the price, and with all USGI parts, it'll soldier on for a good long time.

Scoping an M1 is a problem. Scopes for it are either frighteningly expensive (for a custom scout set up, or a Griffin and Howe, or offset to the left unbalancing the rifle and requiring a cheekpad to get a good stockweld.

But if iron sights is the way you want to go, the M1 is difficult to beat in any caliber.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 9:01:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By gordo99:
The price sounds about right for a Walnut stocked standard M1A. I think you did well and I imagine that the dealer was trying to slim down his inventory hence the deal. As for SA QC problems, I don't think I'd worry about that a whole lot. Sure, I've heard the stories too and though I believe them, I also know that you hear 90% of customer complaints but only about 13% of feedback from satisfied customers. Its just the nature of business. SA will stand behind the product if anything is wrong.

Your awakening will be in buying magazines. USGI mags are going for no cheaper than about $35 each with many over $40. I suggest snooping over to battlerifles.com to get lots of good info about the types of mags to get or not get.



I think CDNN was selling the 10 round mags, (great for bench work) for $20 and some Taiwanese and other magazines are starting to come in at $20 each. Much better pricing than just a year ago.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 11:05:29 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 11:23:46 AM EST
ya, i'd say it was a "decent" deal

seeing as how its below dealer price for a walnut/loaded M1A from my best springfield distributor.......
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