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Posted: 1/16/2014 7:48:50 AM EDT
"NTLDR is missing Press CTRL+Alt+Del to restart"
So I do. Same thing over and and over and over again. Repair? Sure, just get a windows recovery disk. I have years of photo's and job related stuff everything on there. SO pissed. Another lap top bit the dust, wasted money, gone. I visited cnet looking for a 3gp player. Malware fucking galore. MalwareBytes said I had to restart to properly remove the threats. I did. No I got another bricked laptop. I don't have a windows recovery disk for that laptop. It is a Sony Vaio from my wife's old office (she owned it). I know/ think Sony has its windows recovery stuff usually partitioned on a drive. I can't do anything with the damn thing. No pressing F what ever for safe to recover from a diff dates..nothing. I want to punch someone in the face right now. Fuckitty fuck. |
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That sucks.
Try throwing the HD on a different machine you may be able to pull some stuff off of it. If not there are people that do that kind of thing. Always backup then backup your backup. |
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I broke my mouse yesterday, when I slammed it down on the desk.
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You don't have a USB Stick plugged into it that has anything that is bootable do you?
I'm guessing your system is recoverable, or at least the data on the drive is. Either stick the hard drive into another PC or buy a cheap sata/ide to usb adapter on ebay and plug the hard drive into that, get whatever you want off of it, and then wipe the drive and start over. Then wipe the drive and reinstall the OS etc.... then either buy an external drive, or use many of the cloud backup services that give you free space... such as Dropbox, Google Drive, Microsoft Skydrive. Or buy a NAS to backup data to also. |
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"NTLDR is missing Press CTRL+Alt+Del to restart" So I do. Same thing over and and over and over again. Repair? Sure, just get a windows recovery disk. I have years of photo's and job related stuff everything on there. SO pissed. Another lap top bit the dust, wasted money, gone. I visited cnet looking for a 3gp player. Malware fucking galore. MalwareBytes said I had to restart to properly remove the threats. I did. No I got another bricked laptop. I don't have a windows recovery disk for that laptop. It is a Sony Vaio from my wife's old office (she owned it). I know/ think Sony has its windows recovery stuff usually partitioned on a drive. I can't do anything with the damn thing. No pressing F what ever for safe to recover from a diff dates..nothing. I want to punch someone in the face right now. Fuckitty fuck. View Quote You didn't backup those photos & files? OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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this backup devices are dirt cheap these days, WD seagate and others make wifi/lan models that automatically backup everything remotely in the background View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Always back up important files this backup devices are dirt cheap these days, WD seagate and others make wifi/lan models that automatically backup everything remotely in the background Even backing up to a HD in a desktop at home. You can make that happen automatically if you try. 3TB is like $100. |
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this backup devices are dirt cheap these days, WD seagate and others make wifi/lan models that automatically backup everything remotely in the background View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Always back up important files this backup devices are dirt cheap these days, WD seagate and others make wifi/lan models that automatically backup everything remotely in the background I need to get on board and get an external or some high cap thumbs. Most of my photo's..I am going to be so bummed if this can't get fixed. My cell phone shit the bed this week, sending it to Samsung for repairs, I took everything off of it and put it on my laptop and to think to lose a decade worth of important stuff. Bummed. Sent wife an email, she is going to look in her office for a windows recovery, just not sure if it will work or if the version we have my laptop will work with the disk she has..and if asks for that really long number.. If not I will take it out and try slaving it.. ETA: No cellphone for a few days and no laptop...Its like the 1990's all over. I need to break out my 90's mix CD and wearing some button fly jeans |
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You could always boot from a linux live cd and copy your pics and docs off the drive that way.
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"NTLDR is missing Press CTRL+Alt+Del to restart" So I do. Same thing over and and over and over again. Repair? Sure, just get a windows recovery disk. I have years of photo's and job related stuff everything on there. SO pissed. Another lap top bit the dust, wasted money, gone. I visited cnet looking for a 3gp player. Malware fucking galore. MalwareBytes said I had to restart to properly remove the threats. I did. No I got another bricked laptop. I don't have a windows recovery disk for that laptop. It is a Sony Vaio from my wife's old office (she owned it). I know/ think Sony has its windows recovery stuff usually partitioned on a drive. I can't do anything with the damn thing. No pressing F what ever for safe to recover from a diff dates..nothing. I want to punch someone in the face right now. Fuckitty fuck. View Quote Sorry, its always best to have everything backed up to an external hard drive as well as some form of online storage in someones cloud. If you were a company and you lost all of your data you would probably be out of business right now. |
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Some are leery of Cloud type backups. I'm not. I'm sure it's nothing the NSA hasn't seen before.
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For what it's worth OP, going on just what you've said it really doesn't sound like anything is permanently lost. I would just take the laptop to a business that does repairs and recovery (even Best Buy still does it IIRC).
If you know how, as stated earlier plugging the hard drive in as a secondary on a desktop would probably allow the transfer of all needed data. |
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I would download a copy of windows, put it on a flash drive, and boot from that to repair the installation. Its not hard.
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Quoted: Is that something a layman guy like me could download and make? Or do I need a linux computer and all sorts of nerdy computer wizard skills? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You could always boot from a linux live cd and copy your pics and docs off the drive that way. Is that something a layman guy like me could download and make? Or do I need a linux computer and all sorts of nerdy computer wizard skills? Download a copy of ubuntu or mint as a live cd. Burn to disk. In the BIOS on your laptop, set the boot order so that it boots from CD first. Insert CD and let the comp boot up. It will run linux from the cd allowing you access to the harddrive to copy of any files or folders you need to. |
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Stop downloading all that porn, mang. Cut out the porn, cut out the malware.
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1. Google laptop Model/Make or take out hard drive and goolgle hard drive model for size and connector IDE/SATA
2. Order a USB external HD enclosure from Newegg. 3. Insert Hard drive in enclosure plug into working computer. A new drive will appear. 4. Backup old data, Format, reinstall or use as backup |
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Quoted: I need to get on board and get an external or some high cap thumbs. Most of my photo's..I am going to be so bummed if this can't get fixed. My cell phone shit the bed this week, sending it to Samsung for repairs, I took everything off of it and put it on my laptop and to think to lose a decade worth of important stuff. Bummed. Sent wife an email, she is going to look in her office for a windows recovery, just not sure if it will work or if the version we have my laptop will work with the disk she has..and if asks for that really long number.. If not I will take it out and try slaving it.. ETA: No cellphone for a few days and no laptop...Its like the 1990's all over. I need to break out my 90's mix CD and wearing some button fly jeans View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Always back up important files this backup devices are dirt cheap these days, WD seagate and others make wifi/lan models that automatically backup everything remotely in the background I need to get on board and get an external or some high cap thumbs. Most of my photo's..I am going to be so bummed if this can't get fixed. My cell phone shit the bed this week, sending it to Samsung for repairs, I took everything off of it and put it on my laptop and to think to lose a decade worth of important stuff. Bummed. Sent wife an email, she is going to look in her office for a windows recovery, just not sure if it will work or if the version we have my laptop will work with the disk she has..and if asks for that really long number.. If not I will take it out and try slaving it.. ETA: No cellphone for a few days and no laptop...Its like the 1990's all over. I need to break out my 90's mix CD and wearing some button fly jeans Your data is almost certainly still there, but don't fuck around with the drive if you don't know what you're doing.
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Download a Live boot disc. That will at least allow you to copy your files
Man if you're were close to me I'd fix that for you. I had to fix one for the lady at out local Boys & Girls club my son goes to. Same problem |
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1. Google laptop Model/Make or take out hard drive and goolgle hard drive model for size and connector IDE/SATA 2. Order a USB external HD enclosure from Newegg. 3. Insert Hard drive in enclosure plug into working computer. A new drive will appear. 4. Backup old data, Format, reinstall or use as backup View Quote THIS. ^^^ Windows core system boot files are farked, but I'd guess there's a 99% chance if you throw the drive into an external USB chassis right away and plug it into another PC all your pictures and files are still there. However, copy them off immediately. It might be just a bad shutdown or some OS problem that caused Windows to break itself and the drive is fine, but it could be drive failure, and that can/will eventually spread to your other files. I would do this before I tried any other system repairs, because if there actually is physical drive damage or errors, laying down a new copy of windows, even in the way that's non-destructive to the existing files and software might spread that damage or make it worse. |
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Currently reinstalling quite a bit. Finished up getting Windows 7 in, and fully upgraded. Then made sure MSE and MRT were up to snuff. Then added AVG. Now, in a couple hours, should be done dl'n War Thunder. In a couple days, will get TERA back on, and, World of Tanks...both of which will take awhile.
Almost used the recovery discs (F2 to bios, set Dvd to primary boot) until I found out there was a partitioned section of the HD that had what ASUS thought was needed. Used the F9 to bring it up and reinstall. Much cleaner than what it was when I bought it, none of the best buy crap add-ons. Was my fault. Had forgotten to check/update (could have sworn that I had it on automatic) my virus definitions for about 4 months and some stuff got through. System started bsod-ing and, symptoms made me think the vid card (or hard drive) was going. Spent a couple weeks messing around with drivers and different ways of trying to see if it was the card. Was about to disassemble the laptop when I noticed the AVG was way out of date. Updated it and ran 3 passes. Pass 1: 0 detected, system bsod at 86%; Pass 2: 6 detected, 1 flagged for immediate removal (DNS.exe - which is also a needed process name, IIRC); system bsod at 65%, pass 3: 2 detected; system bsod at 45%. System, on reboot went to chkdsk again and began deleting a crapload of 'corrupted' file fragments and other stuff. Checked a couple other things. MSE showed as working until I clicked on it to open. It immediately crashed and the system bsod'd. So, yesterday morning, I reinstalled from the partition. Have been scanning after I add a couple things, just to be sure that things are clean as I get things set back up. |
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buy an empty $20 external drive carrier and put the HD into it. Plug it into another computer and download your pictures off of it. Sounds like a virus, not a failure or even a loss at that.
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The safe route is to power down the laptop immediately. Get one of the drive adapters that allows you to connect your drive to a usb cable that you can plug into another PC.
Take the disk out of the laptop and copy the important files off the disk first. You may be working with a drive that is failing. After you have your important files copied run a full virus scan on the PC that you copied the files to. Anything that you do with the disk other than copying the files will put your files at risk. After the files are copied you have many choices. The first step I would suggest is to create a cd with Microsoft online virus scanner defender and scan the laptop. This is a bootable os that will scan the drive without the drive having an OS. T |
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Quoted: buy an empty $20 external drive carrier and put the HD into it. Plug it into another computer and download your pictures off of it. Sounds like a virus, not a failure or even a loss at that. View Quote ^^^^^ That. And you can buy a recovery disk from Sony: https://servicesales.sel.sony.com/ecom/accessories/web/categorySearch.do?operation=subCategorySearch&subCategory=109&category=3&subCategoryName=Recovery%20CD&categoryName=Computer |
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You must be using WinBlows XP! I don't know what NTLDR does but my puter reported it missing DOZENS of times! I finally learned how to copy it from another computer or from the install disks and where to copy it to on my computer. After replacing that file dozens of times and reinstalling XP as many of ten times in one week, I finally gave up on WinBlows and installed Linux. I'm still trying to figure out how to do some things in Linux but at least it's stable! I've been running it for over a year and it's never crashed or refused to boot. But I have seen it lock a couple of times. But rebooting it and stopping the offending page before it loads always fixed the problem.
My advice: Throw Windows in the trash and get an OS that works! But I'd still like to know exactly what NTLDR does and why it kept disappearing from my HD! YES, I've read the online descriptions of NTLDR but they really don't tell me anything that's useful! PS: You CAN reinstall XP without wiping the drive. If you do that then all of your files are still there including all of your old applications. But XP won't be aware of them. You can manually search for data files and recover them. You can reinstall your applications into new directories and then copy everything from the application's old directory and into the new directory (include all sub-directories as well!) and the application will work as it did before including being aware of your data files and usually the password. I had to reinstall XP so many times that I could do this in my sleep now! In fact I actually set up batch files to do all the file copying for me. Then I just had to reinstall XP, then run the batch files and about 95% of everything worked as before! |
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"NTLDR is missing Press CTRL+Alt+Del to restart" So I do. Same thing over and and over and over again. Repair? Sure, just get a windows recovery disk. I have years of photo's and job related stuff everything on there. SO pissed. Another lap top bit the dust, wasted money, gone. I visited cnet looking for a 3gp player. Malware fucking galore. MalwareBytes said I had to restart to properly remove the threats. I did. No I got another bricked laptop. I don't have a windows recovery disk for that laptop. It is a Sony Vaio from my wife's old office (she owned it). I know/ think Sony has its windows recovery stuff usually partitioned on a drive. I can't do anything with the damn thing. No pressing F what ever for safe to recover from a diff dates..nothing. I want to punch someone in the face right now. Fuckitty fuck. View Quote What OS and can you find a disk to reinstall(Ask around at work or friends). That sounds like an easy fix. Ask you friends if anyone is computer savvy and can get your files for you. If not have a good computer shop do it(NOT BEST BUY!). Once you get everything backed up just format and reinstall the OS. Also get a better antivirus like NOD32 that will keep viruses off the computer.(Malwarebytes is ok to get viruses off but is no good at stopping them from getting on.) If you are on xp please do not reinstall. XP is just a virus sponge at this point. |
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I would suggest not putting the drive in a drive case, many drive problems will be made worse with heat.
If you start getting drive errors when copying the important files put the drive in a zip lock bag and put it in the freezer. I do not know why this works but it has worked for me several times. The drive will work for a while until it heats up. Good Luck. I hate to hear people lose pictures. I enjoy looking at pictures of my kids so much, I can't imagine how enjoyable it will be when they are older. |
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Download a copy of ubuntu or mint as a live cd. Burn to disk. In the BIOS on your laptop, set the boot order so that it boots from CD first. Insert CD and let the comp boot up. It will run linux from the cd allowing you access to the harddrive to copy of any files or folders you need to. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You could always boot from a linux live cd and copy your pics and docs off the drive that way. Is that something a layman guy like me could download and make? Or do I need a linux computer and all sorts of nerdy computer wizard skills? Download a copy of ubuntu or mint as a live cd. Burn to disk. In the BIOS on your laptop, set the boot order so that it boots from CD first. Insert CD and let the comp boot up. It will run linux from the cd allowing you access to the harddrive to copy of any files or folders you need to. This. But do it with a USB stick, instead. It's really simple. If a retard like me can do it, anyone can. Step 2 is start backing your stuff up on a separate drive. Hard drive storage is ridiculously cheap these days. There's no reason not to. |
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Use unetbootin to make a USB drive a bootable Linux Live image, be sure you have it set to format and install onto the USB drive, not your local machine's drive. Reboot your machine booting from USB(enable in BIOS if needed), your local machine's drive will be mountable to recover any files. I always have a 8GB bootable Linux install w/ me.
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someone didn't read my thread.
hirens boot cd + usb drive = your shit rescued. |
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There are recovery programs you can find and use that work great. I was making a new memtest flash drive and in my haste, I accidentally selected our external hard drive that my SO left plugged in as the install location, and lost all of her undergrad and grad school information. 1 program and 14 hours later I had all the information back. Of course that particular program was expensive, and I'm not allowed to explain how I found mine.
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"NTLDR is missing Press CTRL+Alt+Del to restart" So I do. Same thing over and and over and over again. Repair? Sure, just get a windows recovery disk. I have years of photo's and job related stuff everything on there. SO pissed. Another lap top bit the dust, wasted money, gone. I visited cnet looking for a 3gp player. Malware fucking galore. MalwareBytes said I had to restart to properly remove the threats. I did. No I got another bricked laptop. I don't have a windows recovery disk for that laptop. It is a Sony Vaio from my wife's old office (she owned it). I know/ think Sony has its windows recovery stuff usually partitioned on a drive. I can't do anything with the damn thing. No pressing F what ever for safe to recover from a diff dates..nothing. I want to punch someone in the face right now. Fuckitty fuck. View Quote Wifeys Vaio did that. I removed the battery for about an hour, put it back in and it booted up. I was able to recover her files. On every attempt to start after that had to repeat the battery removal. Took it in tho shop and a hundred bucks later it was fixed. |
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Buy an external HD and just making regular backups. Won't help you now, but in the future, you'll save yourself a lot of stress. You can get a 500gb or 1tb for cheap on amazon. Larger ones still around 100 bucks at Costco. 2 is 1, 1 is none when it comes to computer files. |
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You could always boot from a linux live cd and copy your pics and docs off the drive that way. View Quote THIS!!! It's really easy and takes literally 10 minutes!! There are several options if that doesn't work. Normally, it's just Windows that took a dive, NOT the hard drive. You can also buy an adapter for $20, remove the old HD and plug it in via the adapter to another computer and recover your files. PM me if you need help - I'm happy to walk you through it. |
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someone didn't read my thread. hirens boot cd + usb drive = your shit rescued. View Quote This too! Hirens runs linux behind the scenes, but the screen will look like XP. (there were 2 different 'hirens' discs being offered last time I looked... can't remember which one was legit to be honest. Didn't read Howie's thread, there may be a link there. ) |
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What version of windows?
All you need is a burned copy to get into repair mode and do a boot fix. A missing NTLDR is just a jacked up MBR. Otherwise burn a copy of this, and boot it. http://partedmagic.com/ |
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No sympathy from me. 1Tb newtwork drives are too cheap to not buy and backup all your files to nowadays.
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Meh, just restore from backup after you've replaced the hard drive.
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Drive might be good, just missing the boot loader.
Have a tech savvy friend connect it to another computer and try to grab your stuff. |
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Guys..thanks for the input so far.
I have been gone for a few days, I need to get my laptop fixed. Is this link HERE good to go with how to fix it?It seems right. I only have my wifes laptop and if I download something and fuck this laptop up, we are screwed. I am really, quite fucking nervous actually, about downloading any files to her computer that require me to open, install, extract and burn. |
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Quoted: Guys..thanks for the input so far. I have been gone for a few days, I need to get my laptop fixed. Is this link HERE good to go with how to fix it?It seems right. I only have my wifes laptop and if I download something and fuck this laptop up, we are screwed. I am really, quite fucking nervous actually, about downloading any files to her computer that require me to open, install, extract and burn. View Quote Before you do anything to that drive which makes you nervous, scan it for viruses, etc. ETA: Try what the site suggests, but don't do it until you have pulled all your critical information off the drive first. |
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remove the hard drive 1st and back up all the files to another drive/pc . then go about fixing it.
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Guys..thanks for the input so far. I have been gone for a few days, I need to get my laptop fixed. Is this link HERE good to go with how to fix it?It seems right. I only have my wifes laptop and if I download something and fuck this laptop up, we are screwed. I am really, quite fucking nervous actually, about downloading any files to her computer that require me to open, install, extract and burn. View Quote The underlying cause could be any number of things. There are 2 or 3 built in options for this in the XP cd itself, but it's rare that they work (fro me at least). Backing up the data and reinstalling the OS is usually the best and quickest plan of action. Do you have your XP product key? Howie know his stuff, or I'm available if you need help. If F8 doesn't get you into safe mode- it's very likely nothing is going to restore that computer without reinstalling. You can try removing the RAM sticks and removing the CMOS battery on the motherboard to see if that will force a reset. It's a long shot, but it does work occasionally. The factory restore CD's are usually only 15-20 bucks, but I'd be surprised if Sony still had those. If you can't get into safe mode, and those reset/repair options don't work, you are in recover data and reload the OS territory. |
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You can use a Linux live CD to recover the files, the fact that it realizes the file is missing is a good sign. It can be fixed easily. You can use any one of the dozen plus online backups easily, hell use Box or Dropbox to save some time,
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have you to restore the system to an earlier date using system restore?
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Possibly have a thumb drive in a USB port and its trying to boot from that???
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