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Posted: 12/19/2005 8:41:47 PM EDT
This week our fine Governor met with Fidel Castro in Cuba to discuss Cuba's buying some of our Maine commodities. This is because there are other states selling their wares to Cuba and maine does not want to be left out. So- tell me why cuba is allowed to buy our products but we can't smoke a god damn cuban cigar? I just don't get it.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 8:44:18 PM EDT
[#1]
I guess we'll take their money....but they cain't have none of ours!
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 8:45:44 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
This week our fine Governor met with Fidel Castro in Cuba to discuss Cuba's buying some of our Maine commodities. This is because there are other states selling their wares to Cuba and maine does not want to be left out. So- tell me why cuba is allowed to buy our products but we can't smoke a god damn cuban cigar? I just don't get it.



Because it helps our economy and hurts theirs.  Simple as that.  It makes them suffer.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 9:29:19 PM EDT
[#3]
Long story short, casino owners, agriculture (much of the farm land was owned by US corporations - mostly sugar), oil companies were friends with Washington during the revolution, Castro was not.  He also wanted to nationalize oil, reform agriculture, etc...  Ike and JFK gave him the cold shoulder and worse (bay of pigs) to protect the interest of the corporations.  After continuously being kicked to the curb when trying to meet with the US presidents, the USSR saw this as an opportunity and showed up his door step offering billions every year if he would turn communist.  People forget he never declared the revolution socialist until years after it was won (although he's always had some socialist ideals not unlike other politicians all over the world).  Next thing you know, there are Russian nukes in Cuba, more embargoes, and the whole thing goes down the shitter.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 10:04:30 PM EDT
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Castro didn't become a communist because we treated him badly.  That suggests that if only we had been decent towards him, maybe he wouldn't have turned to the USSR, and that the whole Cuba thing is the US's fault.  He just lied about his intentions and ideology until he was firmly in power.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 4:01:33 AM EDT
[#5]

Castro didn't become a communist because we treated him badly. That suggests that if only we had been decent towards him, maybe he wouldn't have turned to the USSR, and that the whole Cuba thing is the US's fault. He just lied about his intentions and ideology until he was firmly in power.



+1


I became pretty good friends with an older cuban gent and his wife (we worked together for about 5 years) who both were cuban exiles. I say exiles and not refugees because Castro's thugs murdered members of both thier families. They both had to flee before being thrown in jail for political reasons - or worse.

We should regime change Cuba. It would be to the benefit of everyone.

Link Posted: 12/20/2005 5:13:55 AM EDT
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DUKE - Castro did not turn commie because WE made him mad and hurt his feelings. He is a murderous egomaniacal tyrant. I've been to Cuba three times(State Dept. humanitarian visas).  It is obvious from driving around Cuba that there was a LOT of wealth and a very solid middle class pre-Castro. What Castro managed to do was nationalize(steal) most of the property in the country and turn a once prosperous Carribean economy into a nation of peasants.  It is a shining example of the glories(utter failures) of Socialism. Having said that, I must add that the Cuban people are very warm, gracious and pleasant. Plus, I've met some of the finest Christians there that it has ever been my privelege to meet.
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