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Posted: 4/22/2016 5:13:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/22/2016 5:13:59 PM EDT by PatriotAr15]
Heck... so long as impoverished women can receive welfare benefits... I'd say give them an incentive to get an IUD. Get an IUD, get an extra 25% in your disability/welfare check or whatever.





I figure the costs of the program would reduce costs in increased welfare payments for their future likely dependents, prison upkeep costs, costs of publicly funded abortions, food stamps, etc. If they get off the IUD, they lose their benefits, period.
 



People on welfare have no business having kids.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 5:14:24 PM EDT
Free?  How about mandatory??
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 5:14:32 PM EDT
How about just not giving them more money for having more kids?
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Can't feed don't breed
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I would actually support that even more. But I'm not sure something like that would be tolerated.

 
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 5:16:00 PM EDT
How about putting a limit on welfare, both benefits and eligibility?
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Originally Posted By Jmmoney:


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They will keep having kids anyway... their kids will just turn to crime.

 
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Can't feed don't breed
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Originally Posted By akrado:
Free?  How about mandatory??


Can't feed don't breed





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How bout just throw them in worker camps?  instead of preventing shit, they would be building shit.
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Margaret Sanger thread.
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It would halve GD membership overnight.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 5:19:42 PM EDT
Pay them, in air jordans, olive garden coupons, and nascar tickets.

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You should run for President
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Then our government should provide a welfare incentive to make damn sure more women use them.



Giving a single woman on welfare a small incentive is much cheaper than having to pay for their kids and their kids' eventual criminal career.

 
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 5:21:29 PM EDT
How about not give them anything and let them and their children starve to death.



Problem fixes itself.





The world doesn't owe them shit.



Root hog, or die.
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Originally Posted By PatriotAr15:
Heck... so long as impoverished women can receive welfare benefits... I'd say give them an incentive to get an IUD. Get an IUD, get an extra 25% in your disability/welfare check or whatever.

I figure the costs of the program would reduce costs in increased welfare payments for their future likely dependents, prison upkeep costs, costs of publicly funded abortions, food stamps, etc. If they get off the IUD, they lose their benefits, period.  

People on welfare have no business having kids.
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So put your money where your mouth is and start buying them and handing them out.  But keep your hands out of my pocket.


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this
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Why would anyone want to go to IUD?
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I think they suck.  I was fingerbanging this broad one night and I could feel that thing poking the tip of my finger.
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Originally Posted By BMCBreeder:
How about not give them anything and let them and their children starve to death.

Problem fixes itself.


The world doesn't owe them shit.

Root hog, or die.
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Enjoy your quintupled crime rate.
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They're contraindicated for women who have not delivered a child, as well as those who have certain disorders like dysmenorrhea or endometriosis.

Not every method is appropriate for every woman out there.
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Limit of 0 I could definitely get on board with that.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 5:34:01 PM EDT
How about abolish welfare and make them move into the poorhouse

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They will keep having kids anyway... their kids will just turn to crime.  
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Originally Posted By Jmmoney:

How about just not giving them more money for having more kids?
They will keep having kids anyway... their kids will just turn to crime.  
So it will be just like it is now?



 
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Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:


Can't feed don't breed
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Originally Posted By akrado:
Free?  How about mandatory??


Can't feed don't breed

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While I agree with you,  the anti-abortion people would call us "pre abortionists".  They don't want effective contraception either.
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Originally Posted By BMCBreeder:
How about not give them anything and let them and their children starve to death.

Problem fixes itself.


The world doesn't owe them shit.

Root hog, or die.
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+1
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This. Put it in or the check bounces.

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Originally Posted By stanag4179:
How about abolish welfare and make them move into the poorhouse

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A poorhouse run by... ?
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This!  First post nails it.



 
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They're contraindicated for women who have not delivered a child, as well as those who have certain disorders like dysmenorrhea or endometriosis.

Not every method is appropriate for every woman out there.
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Originally Posted By Naamah:
Originally Posted By akrado:
Free?  How about mandatory??

They're contraindicated for women who have not delivered a child, as well as those who have certain disorders like dysmenorrhea or endometriosis.

Not every method is appropriate for every woman out there.



This one should be pretty universal...


Link Posted: 4/22/2016 5:38:44 PM EDT
Seriously.... you get a gun lock with most damn guns. You ought to get a birth control device with every EBT card.
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Originally Posted By akrado:
Free?  How about mandatory??


Can't feed don't breed


Where's that Like Button?
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:00:59 PM EDT
Just let starvation do what it has been doing for millennia.

Not fucking is already free.
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Seconded
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Originally Posted By dataflux:
Pay them, in air jordans, olive garden coupons, and nascar tickets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9-EV_xl4Ko
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I'm supposed to curl up in a ball and sob and all, but I really see absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:23:09 PM EDT
They would figure out some way to make drugs out of them
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Exactly what I was going to write!
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Originally Posted By Naamah:

They're contraindicated for women who have not delivered a child, as well as those who have certain disorders like dysmenorrhea or endometriosis.

Not every method is appropriate for every woman out there.
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Originally Posted By Naamah:
Originally Posted By akrado:
Free?  How about mandatory??

They're contraindicated for women who have not delivered a child, as well as those who have certain disorders like dysmenorrhea or endometriosis.

Not every method is appropriate for every woman out there.


They're no longer contraindicated for women that haven't had kids.  The FDA approved a labeling change to that effect for paraguard in 2005.

There maybe a few people that have contraindications, buts its a damb small number, and unlike hormonal methods, its essentially instantly reversed.  
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Margaret Sanger thread.
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BOOM!




Headshot.
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Um, newsflash, they already pretty much are.
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Uhh yeah I came here to post this fact.








women get their yearly exam and physical for free and birth control is always free under the new healthcare laws.  









 

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Uhh yeah I came here to post this fact.








women get their yearly exam and physical for free and birth control is always free under the new healthcare laws.  
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Originally Posted By bennnn:
Um, newsflash, they already pretty much are.
Uhh yeah I came here to post this fact.








women get their yearly exam and physical for free and birth control is always free under the new healthcare laws.  

Only if they are covered. And since the new regulations have actually seemed to decrease the number of individuals covered, it follows that it's not as free as you might believe.
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Only if they are covered. And since the new regulations have actually seemed to decrease the number of individuals covered, it follows that it's not as free as you might believe.
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Originally Posted By OverScoped:




Originally Posted By bennnn:


Um, newsflash, they already pretty much are.
Uhh yeah I came here to post this fact.
women get their yearly exam and physical for free and birth control is always free under the new healthcare laws.  





Only if they are covered. And since the new regulations have actually seemed to decrease the number of individuals covered, it follows that it's not as free as you might believe.


poor women have always been covered.  on top of that there are centers in the shitty parts of town where they hand out rubbers all day long. Visit any campus, get free condoms. Visit a clinic, get free care.





Poor people ARE covered. Only suckers ( I mean people with jobs) pay for healthcare.




 




 
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Originally Posted By OverScoped:
poor women have always been covered.  on top of that there are centers in the shitty parts of town where they hand out rubbers all day long. Visit any campus, get free condoms. Visit a clinic, get free care.


Poor people ARE covered. Only suckers ( I mean people with jobs) pay for healthcare.
 
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Originally Posted By Naamah:
Originally Posted By OverScoped:
Originally Posted By bennnn:
Um, newsflash, they already pretty much are.
Uhh yeah I came here to post this fact.








women get their yearly exam and physical for free and birth control is always free under the new healthcare laws.  

Only if they are covered. And since the new regulations have actually seemed to decrease the number of individuals covered, it follows that it's not as free as you might believe.
poor women have always been covered.  on top of that there are centers in the shitty parts of town where they hand out rubbers all day long. Visit any campus, get free condoms. Visit a clinic, get free care.


Poor people ARE covered. Only suckers ( I mean people with jobs) pay for healthcare.
 

Women can be covered through Medicaid in certain circumstances, but it really isn't just blanket coverage for any poor woman. And there are centers in some cities, certainly, but not all poor people live in close proximity to those clinics. It's not just an inner city issue. And without coverage, preventive medicine is largely nonexistent. People have the misconception that there's a free clinic on every corner, and the poor can just walk in whenever, but that's really not at all how it is. They are limited, the waiting list to be a patient is long, appointments need to be made months in advance.

Condoms are free, sure, if you can find somewhere handing them out, but the rest is not so easily accessed as you seem to think.
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Yay small government!
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Women can be covered through Medicaid in certain circumstances, but it really isn't just blanket coverage for any poor woman. And there are centers in some cities, certainly, but not all poor people live in close proximity to those clinics. It's not just an inner city issue. And without coverage, preventive medicine is largely nonexistent. People have the misconception that there's a free clinic on every corner, and the poor can just walk in whenever, but that's really not at all how it is. They are limited, the waiting list to be a patient is long, appointments need to be made months in advance.



Condoms are free, sure, if you can find somewhere handing them out, but the rest is not so easily accessed as you seem to think.
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Originally Posted By OverScoped:


Originally Posted By Naamah:


Originally Posted By OverScoped:


Originally Posted By bennnn:

Um, newsflash, they already pretty much are.
Uhh yeah I came here to post this fact.
women get their yearly exam and physical for free and birth control is always free under the new healthcare laws.  



Only if they are covered. And since the new regulations have actually seemed to decrease the number of individuals covered, it follows that it's not as free as you might believe.
poor women have always been covered.  on top of that there are centers in the shitty parts of town where they hand out rubbers all day long. Visit any campus, get free condoms. Visit a clinic, get free care.





Poor people ARE covered. Only suckers ( I mean people with jobs) pay for healthcare.

 


Women can be covered through Medicaid in certain circumstances, but it really isn't just blanket coverage for any poor woman. And there are centers in some cities, certainly, but not all poor people live in close proximity to those clinics. It's not just an inner city issue. And without coverage, preventive medicine is largely nonexistent. People have the misconception that there's a free clinic on every corner, and the poor can just walk in whenever, but that's really not at all how it is. They are limited, the waiting list to be a patient is long, appointments need to be made months in advance.



Condoms are free, sure, if you can find somewhere handing them out, but the rest is not so easily accessed as you seem to think.

Finding a clinic is a lot easier than raising 12 kids.    Ohh, you have to make an appointment... too bad.  I have to make an appointment too for My responsibilities, but I have to fit that in my schedule, yanno like work.





Im sure you have more experience that I do dealing with this issue.








 
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Originally Posted By PatriotAr15:
Heck... so long as impoverished women can receive welfare benefits... I'd say give them an incentive to get an IUD. Get an IUD, get an extra 25% in your disability/welfare check or whatever.

I figure the costs of the program would reduce costs in increased welfare payments for their future likely dependents, prison upkeep costs, costs of publicly funded abortions, food stamps, etc. If they get off the IUD, they lose their benefits, period.  

People on welfare have no business having kids.
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You know they can be removed, right?

The way this would work is that the taxpayer would pay Planned Parenthood to put it in to certify benefits, then the next day the take it out again (which wouldn't be reported to anyone).
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If welfare rats don't reproduce, how are we going to get more people to vote Democrat?

There are reasons the .gov pays them to have kids.
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They're contraindicated for women who have not delivered a child, as well as those who have certain disorders like dysmenorrhea or endometriosis.

Not every method is appropriate for every woman out there.
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Originally Posted By Naamah:
Originally Posted By akrado:
Free?  How about mandatory??

They're contraindicated for women who have not delivered a child, as well as those who have certain disorders like dysmenorrhea or endometriosis.

Not every method is appropriate for every woman out there.


Funny my wife got one, she has had no kids, pretty damn common.
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