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Posted: 5/21/2005 7:59:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/21/2005 8:00:10 AM EST by thelastgunslinger]
just got to John Galt's speech on the radio. Holy shit! Is this guy ever going to shut up?
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 8:08:03 AM EST

It is painfully obvious that Ayn
Rand enjoyed the soliloquy.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 8:57:10 AM EST
As much as I want to read Atlas...I get about 1/4 of the way into it and always wind up reading something else. I have tried probably 4 times now in the past couple of years to read that thing.

Makes me feel like I'm back in school and I have to read it. It's just not an enjoyable book.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 8:58:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By ARinKCMO:
As much as I want to read Atlas...I get about 1/4 of the way into it and always wind up reading something else. I have tried probably 4 times now in the past couple of years to read that thing.

Makes me feel like I'm back in school and I have to read it. It's just not an enjoyable book.



I am enjoying it, slowly though. But John Galt's speech is just too much.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 9:02:43 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 9:08:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By EricTheHun:
It's not a book or a philosophy that I particularly enjoy.

George Orwell and Aldous Huxley were just as 'profound' and much more readable!

Hell, Ann Coulter is my kind of 'Ayn Rand'!

So is Mona Charen, Laura Ingram, and a whole host of others.

Eric The(ShortAndSweet)Hun



+1
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 9:13:58 AM EST
better reading than the bible, and a better philosophy too.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 9:17:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/21/2005 9:17:13 AM EST by DK-Prof]

Originally Posted By cck:
better reading than the bible, and a better philosophy too.




I've gotten better "philosophy" from fortune cookies
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 9:18:18 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 9:24:59 AM EST
I read Atlas Shrugged. But I skipped over the big speech after seeing it went on for many, many pages.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 9:26:36 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 9:26:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By EricTheHun:

Yeah, lots of folks do charitable acts in the name of Saint Ayn.....

Come to think of it, Saint Ayn would not wish you to do acts of charity in her name...or anyone else's name.


Eric The(Literate,ButSensible)Hun



Exactly, right. Your reading comprehension is 100%. She has another great book called The Virtue of Selfishness. Its more textbook like but really explores the reasons behind Objectivism
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 9:32:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/21/2005 9:32:39 AM EST by bastiat]

Originally Posted By TheCynic:
It is painfully obvious that Ayn
Rand enjoyed the soliloquy.



It's painfully obvious ayn rand needed a freaking editor.

I have a bookmark somehwhere around 5/8 to 3/4 into the book. I stopped reading 4 years ago and have zero urge to start again.

I just couldn't take it anymore. I don't know how many times I needed to read the same crap over and over again.

She must not have received that "brevity is the soul of wit" memo that went around.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 9:37:41 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 10:06:44 AM EST
I would suggest reading it anyways.....I find it essential, if a bit tiring.

Don't listen to DK_Prof.....HE REALLY IS A PSYCHOPOLITICIAN!!!
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 10:12:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/21/2005 10:21:16 AM EST by DK-Prof]

Originally Posted By desertmoon:
I would suggest reading it anyways.....I find it essential, if a bit tiring.

Don't listen to DK_Prof.....HE REALLY IS A PSYCHOPOLITICIAN!!!




Damn it - they're onto me again.

Link Posted: 5/21/2005 10:19:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
Who is John Galt, and why is he so verbose?



Link Posted: 5/21/2005 10:19:42 AM EST
The Fountainhead was better, but objectivism has its flaws.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 10:28:37 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 10:30:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

Originally Posted By desertmoon:
I would suggest reading it anyways.....I find it essential, if a bit tiring.

Don't listen to DK_Prof.....HE REALLY IS A PSYCHOPOLITICIAN!!!




Damn it - they're onto me again.




Link Posted: 5/21/2005 11:14:21 AM EST
Atlas Shrugged on Audio Book

For those too lazy to read one of my favorite books.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 11:21:39 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 11:26:06 AM EST
That was the book that made officer Barbrady want to remain illiterate.

And I don't blame him.

My philosophy prof made us read it. More punative than anything.


Link Posted: 5/21/2005 11:31:12 AM EST
That book sucked, and so did The Fountainhead.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:07:36 PM EST

I loved this book and had trouble putting it down.

The speech is a bit long though.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 12:56:36 PM EST
I love reading - pretty much anything. I love books as easy to read as Clive Cussler, or as hard as Moby Dick. But after reading (most) of this literary abortion, it's my opinion that it's quite possibly the most overrated book in the english language.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 1:04:54 PM EST
The only Rand I've read is Anthem, and that's probably her shortest one. Which says to me that, if I can ever find my copy of Atlas that I've been meaning to read, I'll have found my book for the next month.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 1:10:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By MOGWAR:
The Fountainhead was better, but objectivism has its flaws.



+1 Roark is the man...

What flaws does objectivism have, specifically???
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 1:59:56 PM EST
I picked up the book a couple of weeks ago and am starting on part 3. Some of the speeches are quite long and I have had to take breaks, but I am still interested in completing it. Lots of good lines in their to use against the socialists.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 3:00:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/21/2005 3:02:07 PM EST by red65]

Originally Posted By cck:
better reading than the bible, and a better philosophy too.



I feel sorry for you.

"We the Living" = pretty good novel

"The Fountainhead" = a decent read, interesting, corny, dramatic

"Atlas Shrugged" = humorless, unreadable, ugly, predicable nonsense

Do a little research. Ayn Rand was a brilliant asshole who led a remarkably crappy life. A lot of what her pathetic followers believe, consists of Ayn's personal random likes and dislikes.

Don't you know that you can write a melodramatic novel that seems to support almost ANY idea?



Link Posted: 5/22/2005 1:25:04 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 2:09:01 AM EST
Rand managed to cram a good 500 page novel into something like 1200 pages or so IIRC. I read the speech until Mr. Galt was re-reiterating himself for the 2nd or 3rd time and then skipped to the end. It was getting too painful.

Fortunately I was at a good time for reading on deployment while reading Atlas Shrugged. Air missions over Afghanistan were slowing down so less ordnance to deliver and we were making runs south of the equator to support some other ship in the region. 4 days/nights at 28 knots, 1 day of flying to replenish those ships and then 4 days back at 28 knots. Couldn't fly at all during the transit because the ship couldn't meet time/distance requirements if she had to maneuver for winds to get us started and engaged so plenty of time for reading every day, otherwise I doubt that I would have finished the book.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 2:25:38 AM EST
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