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Posted: 9/22/2004 1:57:54 PM EDT
[#1]
Good work.
Don't ya love the feeling of your heart racing at 100 mph? Gets me everytime. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 1:58:29 PM EDT
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how did you almost shoot him? You obviously dont have too much time in crap neighborhoods this is like a everyday occurance for me. Shit I would file that under downright friendly.
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:00:09 PM EDT
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+1 Not that I live in a bad neighborhood anymore, but... |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:00:20 PM EDT
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Anytime anyone aproaches me for anything, be it you got the time, you got a quarer, you know how to get to... I clear the clothing and get on grip, then kindly, yet firmly let them know I cannot help them. A lot of assaults begin with asking for something to catch you off guard. Glad you didn't have to give him a hydraulic leak.
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:01:03 PM EDT
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Yeah, that's probably not a fun situation. I've been in a couple pretty hairy ones, but usually they don't become violent. I live in the suburbs, though, so we only have wannabe gangsters. Probably a lot different with the real thing...
I was cornered a few weeks back by a bunch of very angry people who wanted my blood. The only weapon I had was my knife. Thank God I didn't have to use it. Once the shoving started my friends saw and came to the rescue. 1 on 1 is no problem, but 6 on 1 means someone is getting cut before I go down. Damn I hate those situations. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:02:37 PM EDT
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Were you ready to pull your hicap Glock out sideways gangsta style while drinkin from your quart?
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:02:38 PM EDT
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wow....time to loosen the tinfoil 
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:03:35 PM EDT
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Yeah, he was just the typical jewelry peddler .... see those guys all the time if in the "wrong part of town". I've never felt threatened by them at all ... "gangstas" dont have time to peddle jewelry, they make thier money doing other things. They are usually 4 to a car, a big car, painted gold, green or purple ..... riding low, with spinner wheels! |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:04:14 PM EDT
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Not quite. Nice guys finish dead. Of the 3 tactical handgun classes I have taken 2 detailed this exact behaviour. The NRA sanctioned handgun vid with the smiling guy with winged back hairdo says to do the same thing. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:04:52 PM EDT
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This is called the 'assessment phase'. Typical of a criminal's interviewing process to see if you are a willing victim. Good situational awareness can prevent this. "NO! STOP! GET BACK NOW!" Don't let your guard down. Ever. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:07:47 PM EDT
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yes very good advice, one late night I was getting off work and I just got in my truck and roll down the window when this guy runs around the corner to my car, (WTF grab .357) I move over a little to put some space between the guy and me he is very cracked out asking for food and work and money. He starts reaching around his pockets and I tell him to STOP GOING THROUGH YOUR POCKETS he looks at me and says I AINT GOT NO WEAPONS BRO, then I said but I do and leveled the .357 he got the picture and booked it. I don't know if he wanted to rob me or if he was just a fucking moron but the internation language of a stainless ruger told him to go home. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:09:03 PM EDT
[#12]
 that is funny as hell!!
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:10:10 PM EDT
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what did you do to piss everyone off? |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:14:05 PM EDT
[#14]
This story needs to be eloborated on. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:15:19 PM EDT
[#15]
So basically, you're a complete asshole in real life too huh? |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:16:47 PM EDT
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+1 |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:18:10 PM EDT
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YES. If you take any tactical handgun training you will be taught to do the same. If not you will end up being one of those statistics of people getting shot with their own gun. It's called situational awareness. Let the unarmed citizen give em directions or a quarter. So in your feeble mind, yes I am an asshole in real life so please don't come up to me asking for change or directions  And BTW go get some handgun training... |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:18:50 PM EDT
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Agreed. Skid and I live near each other and know the "wrong part of town" very well since... well... a hell of a lot of this area is the "wrong part of town". A lot of you guys sound like you are hardly ever around "bad part of town" folk and are ready to bust a cap in everybody that asks you for something. Situational Awareness is always important, but damn... calm that trigger finger down a bit, Rambo. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:20:42 PM EDT
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My football team beat theirs. The University of Colorado beat Colorado State University and I happened to be in a room of CSU fans. I patted one of them on the back and said, "Hey man, good game." and he turned around and shoved me on the couch. I kicked him in the chest to get him off me, but the other 5-10 CSU fans circled around like a damn lynch mob. The only thing that saved from a hospital trip, and a couple of them from stab wounds was my friends who jumped in. I doubt it would have gone this far, but my friend had just finished cleaning his Baretta 12 Ga, so maybe they are the lucky ones here... |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:24:33 PM EDT
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Effing idiots go where angels fear to tread.
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:25:48 PM EDT
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+1 on this comment by Mak762. Simply by going what you posted, you may qualify for the D.A. of the week award! WTF? Going into a part of town you know is bad, purchasing alcohol whilst packing, and then escalating the situation??? [butthead]You DUMBASS!![/butthead] 
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:30:07 PM EDT
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We stick out really bad on that side of town. Two white guys in a new bright red 4X4 wearing nice clothes. Keep in mind we were driving thorugh the ghetto. We just wanted some beer. Were were not drinking yet. I never needed to pull the pistol, as giving him a glare worked good enough, but you never know sometimes.
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:31:18 PM EDT
[#23]
 I forsee some nasty preliminary hearings in the future for some of you "I'll teach them a lesson" guys. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:32:54 PM EDT
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Since this little escapade included a beer run, did you get to use that most famous, of famous last words on your buddy???
"Hey man, hold my beer and watch THIS!" 
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:33:11 PM EDT
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Nothing wrong with PURCHASING alcohol while packing. Drinkings another story, but those of us who carry 24/7 purchase and pack quite often. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:35:09 PM EDT
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Are you sure you didn't have this episode after you had your "quarts"?
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:35:59 PM EDT
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Yeah, no shit. "Hey man, I ran outta gas... can I borrow a..." BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM "AGH!!!! I just wanted a dollar!" BAM |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:37:03 PM EDT
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Here in Tn, carrying while buying alcohol is a no-no.
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:37:12 PM EDT
[#29]
No he had his hands full of beer allready.
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:37:41 PM EDT
[#30]
an armed citizen is a frontline defense to crime.
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:38:07 PM EDT
[#31]
In TX it is OK as long as you arn't in a bar or drunk. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:38:35 PM EDT
[#32]
You clear the clothing and get ready. You do not draw and certainly do not fire until a threat is imminent. Any decent tactical handgun/carry course (At least in Texas) will ask you to do the same. It's better to be rude than a victim. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:40:01 PM EDT
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Yep, I think that's where a lof of the errouneous postings are coming from. People who don't live in free places are reading our posts through their opressed state filters. 51+ establishments a no no. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:40:23 PM EDT
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+2 Several times a day I get this. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:40:43 PM EDT
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And called an asshole by less educated folks. I'll just be an asshole,...with a pulse. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:44:39 PM EDT
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No, I called you a DUMBASS Git it right!  Less educated? Less educated than who? ErikTheHun??? Sure.  |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:45:28 PM EDT
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... Dude, I was just trying to raise a bus fare.
... You wanted to shoot me? |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:46:37 PM EDT
[#38]
Is'nt that refered to as brandishing a weapon? A decent tactical handgun/carry course taught you that? |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:47:53 PM EDT
[#39]
Dude, I'm talking about motown_steve. I definitly do not consider you less educated. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:48:04 PM EDT
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What the hell?
Your post come4s off as you sounding like some white hip-hop gansta. And it sure as hell doesn't sound like this guys was even doing anything. Maybe you opver reacted. SGatr15 |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:48:23 PM EDT
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You may find that your actions will CAUSE you to be forced to shoot someone. Clearing your clothing and "getting ready" may cause some peaceful person to reach for THEIR weapon, in turn forcing you to draw and/or fire. Again, situational awareness is a must but constant jumpiness like this will get someone killed that otherwise wouldn't have been. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:49:35 PM EDT
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Nowhere do I say to brandish your firearm. You brandish when you feel a threat is imminent. And yes and decent gun couse will tell you to use situational awareness and get your hand close to or on yuor firearm as soon as the potential assailand comes into your sphre of influence. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:49:37 PM EDT
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Oh... cool. My bad. 
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:50:40 PM EDT
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To each his own. Do what you want. Remeber I'm in Texas. We are a lot more free here. And once again for the slower reader I never said brandish a firearm. Clearing a shirt and having your hand on a holster release of grip does not reveal the firearm. I think some of you are getting confused by what clearing the clothing means. You are still concealed. You don't reveal, or brandush or whatever term you want to apply until an imminent threat is determined. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:52:19 PM EDT
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When you said "clear your clothing" I thought you ment expose your holstered weapon. My bad. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:54:08 PM EDT
[#46]
I am no white hip hop wanna be. I am a financial advisor and I drive nice things and dress nice. I obviously stood out in the ghetto and this guy wanted to rip me off. I did not brandish, as in TX you will get introuble for brandishing unless deadly force in authurized. Deadly force was not warrented, so I kept the pistol concealed, just had my hand on it. I was carring in a hip holster on my right side consealed by my shirt tail. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:54:54 PM EDT
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It's not legal to reveal in texas, only conceal carry. You don't brandish, or reveal until an imminent threat is determined. But you hvae to get your hand to the firearm. If he's a career criminal he knows how to take you down quickly. Be nice or fearful of looking to commando reaching under your shirt. that's perfectly OK with me. I'll err on the side of assholeism as motown_steve put it and live to see another day. Like I said. A disarmed citizen can give them directions or spare change. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:55:07 PM EDT
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I don't care what any fucking course tells you. 95 percent of the time that is over reacting, and there is a high chance that can escalate a situation that didn't need escalating. I swear some of you people are fucking scardy cats. Scared of a homeless person or anyone that appraoches you in public. Just answer them and move on. Sgatr15 |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:56:00 PM EDT
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I am not at all confused and my state is, for the most part, just as free as Texas. What I am saying is that by clearing your clothing and grasping your weapon (a motion that most anyone with any sense will recognize), you may force an otherwise peaceful encounter to turn deadly quickly when the person approaching you suddenly feels threatened by YOU. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 2:57:32 PM EDT
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Exactly what did he say that made you believe that? SGatr15 |
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