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Posted: 2/18/2016 11:28:10 PM EDT
Yeah yeah, I know, Putin is a badass,  he has the will to win and we are soft etc. etc.

I have to believe there are noncombatants in the areas being bombed right now.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b01_1455557247
Link Posted: 2/18/2016 11:34:06 PM EDT
I was looking for my fucks, but got distracted watching more videos of bombs falling.  
Link Posted: 2/18/2016 11:34:55 PM EDT
Don't start shit, there won't be shit.
Link Posted: 2/18/2016 11:48:50 PM EDT
The civilians are in Europe raping women.



Bombs away.
Link Posted: 2/18/2016 11:52:32 PM EDT
Less refuges.
Link Posted: 2/18/2016 11:53:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tcrpe:
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Link Posted: 2/18/2016 11:53:34 PM EDT
Strange, I would think cluster munitions were highly effective in cities...
In a religious war (which is how the jihadis see it) there are no noncombatants.
Link Posted: 2/18/2016 11:54:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ordmonkey:
Strange, I would think cluster munitions were highly effective in cities...
In a religious war (which is how the jihadis see it) there are no noncombatants.
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That's what I don't get... Most of the seem to hit the tops and sides of buildings.

Maybe it's a psychological thing?
Link Posted: 2/18/2016 11:56:15 PM EDT
Cluster bombs are second best bombs.
Link Posted: 2/18/2016 11:56:24 PM EDT
People today don't seem to realize what a real war looks like.

Link Posted: 2/18/2016 11:58:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:


That's what I don't get... Most of the seem to hit the tops and sides of buildings.

Maybe it's a psychological thing?
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Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
Originally Posted By Ordmonkey:
Strange, I would think cluster munitions were highly effective in cities...
In a religious war (which is how the jihadis see it) there are no noncombatants.


That's what I don't get... Most of the seem to hit the tops and sides of buildings.

Maybe it's a psychological thing?



From that angle you won't see the ones that make it to the ground, but yeah...  Sides, tops, bottoms of buildings....
I bet you would not want to be there when they hit
Link Posted: 2/18/2016 11:58:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tcrpe:
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This. The news is showing starving children in FSA controlled towns talking about how bad the humanitarian crisis is. Starving children make great news.
Link Posted: 2/18/2016 11:59:22 PM EDT
The "non combatants" will be ready to fight in a very few short years.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:04:42 AM EDT
America has lost the will to win a war.

We used to fire bomb and burn to death women, children and old people.............

We haven't won a war since.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:05:28 AM EDT
FWIW, the description states the town is at the front line and empty.  

I'm ambivalent about it.  Would it be any less mean to use 2000 JDAMS?
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:07:00 AM EDT
Cuz fuck em, that's why.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:08:38 AM EDT
Sorry, no fucks given.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:09:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By hobbsar:

Cluster bombs are second best bombs.
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Aren't a lot of our nukes targeted in a "cluster" fashion? That is, five warheads per target: one each to the north, south, east, west, and one in the middle, all to explode simultaneously? Seems like I read that somewhere way back. I remember it made me go:
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:12:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Recusance:
America has lost the will to win a war.

We used to fire bomb and burn to death women, children and old people.............

We haven't won a war since.
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Have you ever considered running for office?

"If elected, I promise our nation will burn women, children, and old people until we are great once more..."
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:13:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fatcat4620:

This. The news is showing starving children in FSA controlled towns talking about how bad the humanitarian crisis is. Starving children make great news.
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Originally Posted By fatcat4620:
Originally Posted By tcrpe:
Don't start shit, there won't be shit.

This. The news is showing starving children in FSA controlled towns talking about how bad the humanitarian crisis is. Starving children make great news.


If we bomb them they won't be able to complain about being starving
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:18:27 AM EDT
Getting shit done, that's what that is.  Russia don't care.  
We'll see how effective it is.  I certainly wouldn't want to be the recipient of those drops.
Got to be in the walls to avoid that.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:22:29 AM EDT
Psyops. Keeps everybody inside and destroys the TV dishes. All day. Inside. No TV. Or internet. Cruel.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:31:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RedBones:
Originally Posted By tcrpe:
Don't start shit, there won't be shit.


Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:32:12 AM EDT
Those cities are practically emptied of anyone but combatants.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:33:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RichNoman:
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Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:34:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:


Yeah yeah, I know, Putin is a badass,  he has the will to win and we are soft etc. etc.



I have to believe there are noncombatants in the areas being bombed right now.



http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b01_1455557247
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I wonder if there were any noncombatants in Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki?



Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:35:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ordmonkey:



Have you ever considered running for office?

"If elected, I promise our nation will burn women, children, and old people until we are great once more..."
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Originally Posted By Ordmonkey:
Originally Posted By Recusance:
America has lost the will to win a war.

We used to fire bomb and burn to death women, children and old people.............

We haven't won a war since.



Have you ever considered running for office?

"If elected, I promise our nation will burn women, children, and old people until we are great once more..."



He'd get my vote.

Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:36:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Recusance:
America has lost the will to win a war.

We used to fire bomb and burn to death women, children and old people.............

We haven't won a war since.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:37:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
Yeah yeah, I know, Putin is a badass,  he has the will to win and we are soft etc. etc.

I have to believe there are noncombatants in the areas being bombed right now.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b01_1455557247
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We can either fight the civilians there, or we can fight them here.

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Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:43:27 AM EDT
If they run, they're ISIS,



If they don't run, they're well disciplined ISIS.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:48:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlamTX:



The civilians are in Europe raping women.





Bombs away.


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Reading that while looking at your avatar is fucking hysterical





 
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 12:54:19 AM EDT
My grandpa's B-17 dropped tons of bombs all over occupied Europe with the Eighth Air Force.



I'm sure some of them killed civilians, I'm also sure he never lost any sleep over it, nor should he have.




Link Posted: 2/19/2016 1:10:19 AM EDT
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We used to fire bomb and burn to death women, children and old people.............

We haven't won a war since.
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Where the Fuck is that Like button?

Grandpa flew those

<==== the last time we did that.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 1:11:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fulminata:

My grandpa's B-17 dropped tons of bombs all over occupied Europe with the Eighth Air Force.

I'm sure some of them killed civilians, I'm also sure he never lost any sleep over it, nor should he have.

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Yeah, it's perfectly o.k. if the U.S. kills civilians by the hundreds of thousands, but if someone else does it then it's a "war crime." If the Germans had fire bombed American cities like we did Dresden and others there wouldn't have been enough rope in Europe to hang them all.

No point getting up on your hind legs caterwauling about it: it's 100% true. That's the thing about killing civilians: if you're going to do it, you'd better win the war, because if you don't:

Link Posted: 2/19/2016 1:50:01 AM EDT
Russia isn't getting shit done they are throwing shit at a wall and hoping some of it sticks. They suck at targeting there is a time and place to use ICMs and a lot of the time they fuck it up. Speaking as someone who has had to clean up a few cluster bombs using the wrong ordnance on a target can give you bad to no effect and make it worse in the long run.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 1:55:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/19/2016 1:55:49 AM EDT by DasRonin]
Rules of war... rules of engagement.

It seems like only the USA is the only one with ROE.

An example of how it should be...

Link Posted: 2/19/2016 2:00:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Echo_Hotel:

Yeah, it's perfectly o.k. if the U.S. kills civilians by the hundreds of thousands, but if someone else does it then it's a "war crime." If the Germans had fire bombed American cities like we did Dresden and others there wouldn't have been enough rope in Europe to hang them all.

No point getting up on your hind legs caterwauling about it: it's 100% true. That's the thing about killing civilians: if you're going to do it, you'd better win the war, because if you don't:

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Originally Posted By Echo_Hotel:
Originally Posted By Fulminata:

My grandpa's B-17 dropped tons of bombs all over occupied Europe with the Eighth Air Force.

I'm sure some of them killed civilians, I'm also sure he never lost any sleep over it, nor should he have.


Yeah, it's perfectly o.k. if the U.S. kills civilians by the hundreds of thousands, but if someone else does it then it's a "war crime." If the Germans had fire bombed American cities like we did Dresden and others there wouldn't have been enough rope in Europe to hang them all.

No point getting up on your hind legs caterwauling about it: it's 100% true. That's the thing about killing civilians: if you're going to do it, you'd better win the war, because if you don't:

<a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s2.postimg.org/v16yjtyrt/image.jpg</a>


Yes. Thats the nature of wars. You better win them if you dont want to die.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 2:02:58 AM EDT
The usa is an absolute hypocrite nation.


It's not a good thing
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Originally Posted By pbaeod:
Russia isn't getting shit done they are throwing shit at a wall and hoping some of it sticks. They suck at targeting there is a time and place to use ICMs and a lot of the time they fuck it up. Speaking as someone who has had to clean up a few cluster bombs using the wrong ordnance on a target can give you bad to no effect and make it worse in the long run.
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The SAA has made gains for the first time in a long time, essentially encircling Aleppo.  Their involvement has not been a game changer on the ground, but it has been helpful no doubt.  The political implications are more important anyway.
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Originally Posted By Echo_Hotel:





Yeah, it's perfectly o.k. if the U.S. kills civilians by the hundreds of thousands, but if someone else does it then it's a "war crime." If the Germans had fire bombed American cities like we did Dresden and others there wouldn't have been enough rope in Europe to hang them all.



No point getting up on your hind legs caterwauling about it: it's 100% true. That's the thing about killing civilians: if you're going to do it, you'd better win the war, because if you don't:



http://s2.postimg.org/v16yjtyrt/image.jpg
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Originally Posted By Echo_Hotel:



Originally Posted By Fulminata:



My grandpa's B-17 dropped tons of bombs all over occupied Europe with the Eighth Air Force.



I'm sure some of them killed civilians, I'm also sure he never lost any sleep over it, nor should he have.





Yeah, it's perfectly o.k. if the U.S. kills civilians by the hundreds of thousands, but if someone else does it then it's a "war crime." If the Germans had fire bombed American cities like we did Dresden and others there wouldn't have been enough rope in Europe to hang them all.



No point getting up on your hind legs caterwauling about it: it's 100% true. That's the thing about killing civilians: if you're going to do it, you'd better win the war, because if you don't:



http://s2.postimg.org/v16yjtyrt/image.jpg


So you're saying my grandpa deserved to be hanged? But he got a pass because we won the war?



If it's 100% true then why was it that when the Germans lost, I don't seem to recall the Brits demanding the rounding up of every Luftwaffe aircrew that was on a Heinkel, Junkers or Dornier during the Blitz so they could string them all up in 1945?



 
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 2:15:32 AM EDT
Russia has different ROE's than we do.  When they fight a war, they fight to exterminate.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 2:19:43 AM EDT
Needs moar Bears and carpet bombing.

Can't have an insurgency if no one is there to be insurgent.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 2:32:53 AM EDT
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We've gotten soft.













 
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 2:52:28 AM EDT
You have to play to win.  Half ass bs just prolongs the war.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 3:01:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fulminata:
My grandpa's B-17 dropped tons of bombs all over occupied Europe with the Eighth Air Force.

I'm sure some of them killed civilians, I'm also sure he never lost any sleep over it, nor should he have.

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I bet you he lost more sleep than you know about.
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 3:04:42 AM EDT
We also happen to be way better at hitting exactly what we want than we used to be.
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Fuck civcas! Don't want to get killed, leave the area the combatants are occupying.
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Fuck civcas! Don't want to get killed, leave the area the combatants are occupying.
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If they let you.
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Originally Posted By pbaeod:
If they let you.

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Originally Posted By OldArmy:

Fuck civcas! Don't want to get killed, leave the area the combatants are occupying.




If they let you.

well they should fight back instead of running off to Europe or rolling over like the pussies they are.

 
Link Posted: 2/19/2016 3:25:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ludder093:
well they should fight back instead of running off to Europe or rolling over like the pussies they are.  
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Originally Posted By ludder093:
Originally Posted By pbaeod:
Originally Posted By OldArmy:
Fuck civcas! Don't want to get killed, leave the area the combatants are occupying.


If they let you.
well they should fight back instead of running off to Europe or rolling over like the pussies they are.  


I'm talking about places like Ramadi where Isis blocked off the egress routes and the IA had to open them up while other units advances from a different direction. We provided the precision firepower. Even then the place looks like shit we just didn't kill as many non combatants.


Link Posted: 2/19/2016 3:33:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
Yeah yeah, I know, Putin is a badass,  he has the will to win and we are soft etc. etc.

I have to believe there are noncombatants in the areas being bombed right now.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b01_1455557247
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ISIS hides / shields them self behind civilians. In Irag the ROE (IIRC) was to avoid destroying mosque. Some "leader" holed up in one for 3-4 weeks, taking shots at US forces. Knowing the U.S would not level the mosque, bad press and all that PC shit.

These fuckers blow up bazaars for practice, not giving a fuck who gets killed or maimed. You want to play softball, go ahead.   Terrorism isn't or will never be a conventional war.

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