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Posted: 9/10/2013 3:30:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2013 3:38:42 PM EDT by EvanWilliams]
Middle East Genocide

We also accept extravagant claims that “civilized” Arabs rescued the classical texts that formed our civilization. That’s utter nonsense. The Arab hordes that burst out of barren Arabia in the 7th century were composed of illiterates. Conquering at a time when the warring Byzantine and Persian empires had exhausted themselves, the new rulers found that tribal practices didn’t suffice to run provinces. So they took over the existing bureaucracies, staffed by Greek-speaking Christians and Jews. It was those officials who saved the Greek classics for Europe’s future Renaissance — and their descendants designed Islam’s greatest monuments.
Yes, some Arab rulers came to value learning — but the Arab world never produced a Homer, Plato, Sophocles or Thucydides whose appeal transcended their culture.
Islam was a religion spread by war. It was only a “religion of peace” where it had conquered. True, Islam sometimes proved more tolerant of minorities than Europeans, but that was at the zenith of the faith’s power.
There’s yet another illusion of ours — that Islam is gaining strength. Islam is on the ropes. What we’ve seen in the pogroms and outright genocides over the last 150 years has been the spleen of a once-triumphant faith whose practices and values can’t compete in the modern age.
Consider today’s Middle East, apart from Israel. Despite the massive influx of oil wealth, there isn’t one world-class university. Nothing of quality or technological complexity is manufactured between Morocco and Pakistan. Not even Saudi Arabia has first-rate health-care. Research is nil. Patent applications are statistically zero. Women are regarded as lesser beings, wasting half of the region’s human capital. Not one Arab society’s a meritocracy. And corruption cripples all.
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Good read.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:46:41 PM EDT
Yeah, he's good. . .been reading him in the NY Post for a couple of years. . .
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:56:42 PM EDT
"Consider today’s Middle East, apart from Israel. Despite the massive influx of oil wealth, there isn’t one world-class university. Nothing of quality or technological complexity is manufactured between Morocco and Pakistan. Not even Saudi Arabia has first-rate health-care. Research is nil. Patent applications are statistically zero. Women are regarded as lesser beings, wasting half of the region’s human capital. Not one Arab society’s a meritocracy. And corruption cripples all."


Never thought about it like that before.  The potential techo-wizards leave,get educated, and be creative in the First World countries.
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Originally Posted By Belisarius_33:
"Consider today’s Middle East, apart from Israel. Despite the massive influx of oil wealth, there isn’t one world-class university. Nothing of quality or technological complexity is manufactured between Morocco and Pakistan. Not even Saudi Arabia has first-rate health-care. Research is nil. Patent applications are statistically zero. Women are regarded as lesser beings, wasting half of the region’s human capital. Not one Arab society’s a meritocracy. And corruption cripples all."


Never thought about it like that before.  The potential techo-wizards leave,get educated, and be creative in the First World countries.
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Dude was an intelligence officer. I guess he is good at research and looks at things differently than dumbasses like me.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:20:21 PM EDT
Always liked this:

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Always liked this:

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Haaaa!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:29:53 PM EDT
Ralph rarely call 'em wrong.
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I have a couple of his books. He has more out now.
I may hit amazon.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:52:57 PM EDT
I generally agree with everything he says and will be purchasing a few of his books.
He and I also share the same last name
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:56:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cuttingedge:
I generally agree with everything he says and will be purchasing a few of his books.
He and I also share the same last name
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Anglo-Norman I would guess.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 5:13:55 PM EDT
The culture of the Arab world, and of Iran, had a great run centuries
ago. But over the last several centuries, it has broken down, it has
lagged behind, it has become—and it is not politically correct to say
it—barbaric. Barbaric in its treatment of women, in its corruption, in
its lack of a work ethic, its lack of respect for education, and in its
fundamental tyranny on a political, social, and even familial level.



( Just finished reading the latest news article about an 8yo child bride in Yemen who died on her "wedding night" after intercourse with her 40yo husband, barbaric indeed )



Because I do not believe that all civilizations are equivalent. I don't
believe in a civilization that torments women and children, that's
woefully corrupt, that in the 21st century, not only cannot build a competitive automobile, but cannot even build a competitive bicycle!


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Originally Posted By Turnkey:
The culture of the Arab world, and of Iran, had a great run centuries ago. But over the last several centuries, it has broken down, it has lagged behind, it has become—and it is not politically correct to say it—barbaric. Barbaric in its treatment of women, in its corruption, in its lack of a work ethic, its lack of respect for education, and in its fundamental tyranny on a political, social, and even familial level.

( Just finished reading the latest news article about an 8yo child bride in Yemen who died on her "wedding night" after intercourse with her 40yo husband, barbaric indeed )


Because I do not believe that all civilizations are equivalent. I don't believe in a civilization that torments women and children, that's woefully corrupt, that in the 21st century, not only cannot build a competitive automobile, but cannot even build a competitive bicycle!
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In the footsteps of Mohammed and Aisha
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 5:25:46 PM EDT
That left a mark.


The tragedy was that the most-backward, intolerant and indolent Arabs, primitive tribesmen, got most of the oil wealth and used it to spread their Wahhabi cult throughout the Islamic world. The intellectuals in the great Arab cities never had a chance.
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That left a mark.


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Originally Posted By scarecrow31:
That left a mark.


The tragedy was that the most-backward, intolerant and indolent Arabs, primitive tribesmen, got most of the oil wealth and used it to spread their Wahhabi cult throughout the Islamic world. The intellectuals in the great Arab cities never had a chance.


The dumbest ones got the oil.  That's life.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 6:28:50 PM EDT
Peters is an interesting cat.

Brilliant, and genuinely cares for the enlisted Soldier.

I don't always agree, but when I disagree, I reexamine my position carefully.
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The dumbest ones got the oil.  That's life.
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Originally Posted By EvanWilliams:
Originally Posted By scarecrow31:
That left a mark.


The tragedy was that the most-backward, intolerant and indolent Arabs, primitive tribesmen, got most of the oil wealth and used it to spread their Wahhabi cult throughout the Islamic world. The intellectuals in the great Arab cities never had a chance.


The dumbest ones got the oil.  That's life.


The Beverly Hillbillies effect.
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The Beverly Hillbillies effect.
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Originally Posted By Screechjet1:
Originally Posted By EvanWilliams:
Originally Posted By scarecrow31:
That left a mark.


The tragedy was that the most-backward, intolerant and indolent Arabs, primitive tribesmen, got most of the oil wealth and used it to spread their Wahhabi cult throughout the Islamic world. The intellectuals in the great Arab cities never had a chance.


The dumbest ones got the oil.  That's life.


The Beverly Hillbillies effect.



Wow. Perfect.

If you don't mind I may borrow that one in the future.
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Wow. Perfect.

If you don't mind I may borrow that one in the future.
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Originally Posted By Screechjet1:
Originally Posted By EvanWilliams:
Originally Posted By scarecrow31:
That left a mark.


The tragedy was that the most-backward, intolerant and indolent Arabs, primitive tribesmen, got most of the oil wealth and used it to spread their Wahhabi cult throughout the Islamic world. The intellectuals in the great Arab cities never had a chance.


The dumbest ones got the oil.  That's life.


The Beverly Hillbillies effect.



Wow. Perfect.

If you don't mind I may borrow that one in the future.



I stole it from an Algerian
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Originally Posted By Screechjet1:
Peters is an interesting cat.

Brilliant, and genuinely cares for the enlisted Soldier.

I don't always agree, but when I disagree, I reexamine my position carefully.
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Sign of a smart man.
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The Beverly Hillbillies effect.
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Originally Posted By Screechjet1:
Originally Posted By EvanWilliams:
Originally Posted By scarecrow31:
That left a mark.


The tragedy was that the most-backward, intolerant and indolent Arabs, primitive tribesmen, got most of the oil wealth and used it to spread their Wahhabi cult throughout the Islamic world. The intellectuals in the great Arab cities never had a chance.


The dumbest ones got the oil.  That's life.


The Beverly Hillbillies effect.


Noted. Filed.
for future use
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 2:19:45 PM EDT
He writes solid fiction as well. I read his "the war in 2020", and really enjoyed it.
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He writes solid fiction as well. I read his "the war in 2020", and really enjoyed it.
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I have a 3 day meeting starting tomorrow.  I need something to read.
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