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Posted: 7/22/2008 3:48:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/22/2008 3:59:09 PM EST by thebeekeeper1]
Most (well, all) gun laws in CA just utilize really fucked up reasoning that makes no sense to a rational mind. This law uses no reasoning. How the fuck does putting a 10 day wait on a firearm diminish my ability to commit homicide, given that I have a safe filled with guns at home?

Sorry about the rant, about to sign the paperwork for my Sako. It's such a tease getting to handle it and all, then having to set it away for 10 days. Oh well, just finished up my education in CA so I should be moving to a more freedom friendly state within the year.


<Title edit. Please don't use any form of the F-word in thread titles. --tbk1>
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:49:24 PM EST
I've been known to buy a gun, pay for it, and come back a month later. I've got what I need so I'm in no rush to find a space for another gun.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:49:33 PM EST
Move to a...oh, nevermind.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:49:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By Leadbetter:
Most (well, all) gun laws in CA just utilize really fucked up reasoning that makes no sense to a rational mind. This law uses no reasoning. How the fuck does putting a 10 day wait on a firearm diminish my ability to commit homicide, given that I have a safe filled with guns at home?

Sorry about the rant, about to sign the paperwork for my Sako. It's such a tease getting to handle it and all, then having to set it away for 10 days. Oh well, just finished up my education in CA so I should be moving to a more freedom friendly state within the year.

What the hells a 10 day waiting period?
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:49:57 PM EST
What is a waiting period?
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:51:24 PM EST
For those of you who seriously don't know what a waiting period is (not you sarcastic assholes ), its a fucked up law where after purchasing your firearm, you have to wait a 10 day 'cool down' period, prior to being able to pick it up and take it home.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:51:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By capnrob97:
What is a waiting period?
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:51:39 PM EST
I'm not familiar with this term 'waiting period'.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:52:22 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:53:08 PM EST
But it makes people feel safer.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:53:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By capnrob97:
What is a waiting period?


Something people in Florida put up with for 3 days, when they're not CCW holders but want a handgun anyway.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:53:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/22/2008 3:54:02 PM EST by Grunteled]
What's a ten day waiting period? Is that like where you have to date the gun and take it out to dinner a few times first?




Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:53:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By Paul:
After you have 30 or 40 firearms you busy yourself with the others while waiting the next.

Tough trait to learn in a society of instant gradification.



*gratification

I currently own no hunting rifles. Not being able to go hunting this weekend with my friends because a retarded law has nothing to do with instant gratification.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:53:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By Paul:
After you have 30 or 40 firearms you busy yourself with the others while waiting the next.

Tough trait to learn in a society of instant gradification.


Is that how it's justified?

Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:53:52 PM EST
I know what you mean, I get bored wating during the 5 to 15 minutes it takes for the NICS check before I can leave with a gun
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:54:11 PM EST
Yeah I really hate that 3 minutes it takes for my online 4473 to be run.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:54:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/22/2008 3:56:59 PM EST by Rosenrot]
Its called a "cooling down period"

Say you were really mad and wanted to wack someone, they think that if they make you wait 10 days you will no longer be mad enough to kill.

Not like you would just go out and buy a gun off the street or use a knife.


This law targets the people that need firearms the most. Like 99.9% of the gun laws out there it makes 0 sense.

Edit: We have a 3-5min "cooing-down" period here in WV
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:54:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/22/2008 4:01:11 PM EST by Leadbetter]

Originally Posted By peekay:

Originally Posted By Paul:
After you have 30 or 40 firearms you busy yourself with the others while waiting the next.

Tough trait to learn in a society of instant gradification.


Is that how it's justified?



Seriously. Violation of our freedom.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:54:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:
What is a waiting period?


Something people in Florida put up with for 3 days, when they're not CCW holders but want a handgun anyway.


I was being sarcastic.

Have a CCW and no waiting period for me.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:54:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By NineLivez:
I know what you mean, I get bored wating during the 5 to 15 minutes it takes for the NICS check before I can leave with a gun


I hate you.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:55:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By Leadbetter:

Originally Posted By Paul:
After you have 30 or 40 firearms you busy yourself with the others while waiting the next.

Tough trait to learn in a society of instant gradification.



*gratification

I currently own no hunting rifles. Not being able to go hunting this weekend with my friends because a retarded law has nothing to do with instant gratification.



It gives you time to cool off and reconsider your choice to go hunting!
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:55:20 PM EST
be happy its 10!!

it used to be 15!
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:55:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:
What is a waiting period?


Something people in Florida put up with for 3 days, when they're not CCW holders but want a handgun anyway.


+1

We can still trade an old pistol in and pick up that brand new shiny one that we just bought on the same day.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:55:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By Paul:
After you have 30 or 40 firearms you busy yourself with the others while waiting the next.

Tough trait to learn in a society of instant gradification.



Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:56:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By Leadbetter:
For those of you who seriously don't know what a waiting period is (not you sarcastic assholes ), its a fucked up law where after purchasing your firearm, you have to wait a 10 day 'cool down' period, prior to being able to pick it up and take it home.


I dont even know why they think this is a good thing. Maybe, for first time gun buyers, but if you already have a butt load of guns at home, what is the fucking point
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:56:40 PM EST
Be happy. It used to be 15 days.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:57:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By ORinTX:

Originally Posted By Paul:
After you have 30 or 40 firearms you busy yourself with the others while waiting the next.

Tough trait to learn in a society of instant gradification.





It's the state.... teaching you patience. What's not to like?
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:57:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By colklink:

Originally Posted By Leadbetter:
For those of you who seriously don't know what a waiting period is (not you sarcastic assholes ), its a fucked up law where after purchasing your firearm, you have to wait a 10 day 'cool down' period, prior to being able to pick it up and take it home.


I dont even know why they think this is a good thing. Maybe, for first time gun buyers, but if you already have a butt load of guns at home, what is the fucking point


Exactly my point. If it was for first time buyers, that would be a stupid law, but at least based on something (regardless of how retarded the reasoning is).

This is based on nothing.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:58:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By Grunteled:

Originally Posted By ORinTX:

Originally Posted By Paul:
After you have 30 or 40 firearms you busy yourself with the others while waiting the next.

Tough trait to learn in a society of instant gradification.





It's the state.... teaching you patience. What's not to like?


exactly!

what sort of fool wants to take home his purchase that same day?
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:58:34 PM EST
I live in a free state, sucks to live in CA.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:59:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/22/2008 4:00:02 PM EST by SilentType]
Waiting period make no sense to begin with, but when you make folks who already have registered pistols wait 10 days they are comical.

Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:59:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By Leadbetter:

Originally Posted By Paul:
After you have 30 or 40 firearms you busy yourself with the others while waiting the next.

Tough trait to learn in a society of instant gradification.



*gratification

I currently own no hunting rifles. Not being able to go hunting this weekend with my friends because a retarded law has nothing to do with instant gratification.



so your buddy doesnt have anything that you can shoot on said trip ?
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:59:51 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:59:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By g3shooter:
I live in a free state, sucks to live in CA.


I managed to get a great education while in CA at a university that excelled in my field, so now I can get a high paying job in a free state
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:00:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By capnrob97:
What is a waiting period?




+1
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:00:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:
What is a waiting period?


Something people in Florida put up with for 3 days, when they're not CCW holders but want a handgun anyway.


nice shot
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:00:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/22/2008 4:01:42 PM EST by axisofignorance]
Typically when I spend all my cash on toys I have something in hand to make myself feel better when theres no money to eat. When I walk out of the gun store all I have is some paper work and an empty wallet. Without items in hand the hit seems so much harder.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:01:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By ORinTX:

Originally Posted By Paul:
After you have 30 or 40 firearms you busy yourself with the others while waiting the next.

Tough trait to learn in a society of instant gradification.






Paul, as almost all Cali members here, has to listen to a bunch of shit on a daly basis, I am sure he does not feel like that, not to speak for him or anything.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:01:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/22/2008 4:06:04 PM EST by Rosenrot]

Originally Posted By colklink:

Originally Posted By Leadbetter:
For those of you who seriously don't know what a waiting period is (not you sarcastic assholes ), its a fucked up law where after purchasing your firearm, you have to wait a 10 day 'cool down' period, prior to being able to pick it up and take it home.


I dont even know why they think this is a good thing. Maybe, for first time gun buyers, but if you already have a butt load of guns at home, what is the fucking point


Think about it for a minute comrade.

You want to kill someone really bad, do you

A: Go to a gun store knowing they have a 10 day waiting period
Or
B: Go into the local projects and pickup a $100 throw away.


The law is fucking stupid. Say you were a women and needed a gun to protect yourself from a crazed husband that has threatened your life. You better hope he doesn't act within the first 10 days or your fucked.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:02:01 PM EST
Move to RI, we have a 7 day "cooling off" period




I feel your pain.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:04:17 PM EST
If ya don't like it, get together with your neighbors, and FIX IT,
Isn't it 'gummint by the peeple, for the peeple'?

Or, run away to a better place.
CA is gonna fall into the Pacific Ocean anyway.

IMHO YMMV
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:04:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By colklink:

Originally Posted By ORinTX:

Originally Posted By Paul:
After you have 30 or 40 firearms you busy yourself with the others while waiting the next.

Tough trait to learn in a society of instant gradification.






Paul, as almost all Cali members here, has to listen to a bunch of shit on a daly basis, I am sure he does not feel like that, not to speak for him or anything.


He mocks instant gratification but says he deals with waiting periods by playing with guns he already owns (instant gratification).

A display of patience would but not attempting to instantly gratify the desire to shoot firearms.

His reasoning made no sense.

Patience would be having no firearms, purchasing your first one, waiting 10 days and not complaining.

Purchasing a firearm then using your others too pass time during the 10 day wait is not patience, its simply keeping yourself occupied and mind off of your recent purchase.

IMO, attempting to defend a completely ungrounded law in anyway is not cool.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:07:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/22/2008 4:07:39 PM EST by Leadbetter]

Originally Posted By us-kiwi:
If ya don't like it, get together with your neighbors, and FIX IT,
Isn't it 'gummint by the peeple, for the peeple'?

Or, run away to a better place.
CA is gonna fall into the Pacific Ocean anyway.

IMHO YMMV


Hey I'm a NRA member and have actively taken part in pro-gun demonstrations in the past (e.g. see CA arfcom forums). I've done my share to help. I have no obligation to stay in this state.

I was born in CA. It was my intention all along to get the cheaper instate tuition and then move after receiving a superb education.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:09:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By Leadbetter:

Originally Posted By NineLivez:
I know what you mean, I get bored wating during the 5 to 15 minutes it takes for the NICS check before I can leave with a gun


I hate you.


Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:09:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/22/2008 4:09:41 PM EST by Rosenrot]

Originally Posted By Leadbetter:

Originally Posted By us-kiwi:
If ya don't like it, get together with your neighbors, and FIX IT,
Isn't it 'gummint by the peeple, for the peeple'?

Or, run away to a better place.
CA is gonna fall into the Pacific Ocean anyway.

IMHO YMMV


Hey I'm a NRA member and have actively taken part in pro-gun demonstrations in the past (e.g. see CA arfcom forums). I've done my share to help. I have no obligation to stay in this state.

I was born in CA. It was my intention all along to get the cheaper instate tuition and then move after receiving a superb education.


1 Word. Burrito
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:09:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By g3shooter:
I live in a free state, sucks to live in CA.


Hows that new glock you filled out the paperwork on at your ffl doing, oh wait, you cant buy it!!!!!
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:13:07 PM EST
10 DAYS!! IM PISSED NOW!!!!
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:15:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/22/2008 4:17:05 PM EST by Kharn]
If you really want to get annoyed with waiting periods, get into NFA weapons. I had to wait 6 weeks to get a CLEO signature on the Form 1 for my SBR build, now I'm expecting to wait 3mo for the ATF to process it, so over 5mo from start to finish.

And I'm thinking about making another SBR and an SBS later this year.

Kharn
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:16:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:
What is a waiting period?


Something people in Florida put up with for 3 days, when they're not CCW holders but want a handgun anyway.


I was being sarcastic.

Have a CCW and no waiting period for me.


Low hanging fruit. I had to do it.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:20:45 PM EST
Don't like it, move. Simple.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:21:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/22/2008 4:21:57 PM EST by Leadbetter]

Originally Posted By MTUSA:
Don't like it, move. Simple.


Did you read the whole post? I explained that I plan on moving, and had to say for my education.
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