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Posted: 12/16/2016 4:43:40 AM EST
ISIS has taken possession of three Russian surface-to-air missile launchers outside of Palmyra, Syria after retaking the ancient city last weekend, two U.S. defense officials told Fox News Thursday...
The officials said the SA-3 launchers contain four missiles each. The 60s-era Soviet missile launcher has a maximum range of 15 miles and can strike aircraft flying at over 60,000 feet in the air. It was not immediately clear whether ISIS knew how to use the military technology. View Quote Link to Full story at Fox News I wonder if the USAF will ground the F22s again, and cease operations? |
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More likely "US gave ISIS three Russian surface to air missile launchers in Syria."
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Isn't there like some training required in order to use these things? And practice? Seems like having them is one thing, having a competent operator is something else......... My .02 |
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We did this when they shot down MH17 over the Ukraine.
You cant just pop in the seat and push the big red button. SAM Simulator - SA-5 Tallinn scenario |
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The JV team seems to being a pretty good job . Wait until the college guys or CFL level players step up.
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We did this when they shot down MH17 over the Ukraine. You cant just pop in the seat and push the big red button. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1mu2k6M-es View Quote It's not like they couldn't just use the same simulator you just posted a video from. It's also not like they care what they hit since they have a 0% fratricide chance. |
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I don't understand why Russia had such equipment deployed on the front lines.
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"60s-era Soviet missile launcher"
Why would they deploy something that old? Wouldn't modern jets have counter-measures to combat those relics? |
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There are training materials available for the SA-3, so it's not out of the question they could get trained up on the system.
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As mentioned above. They really aren't a threat to any of our modern fighter jets. But slower planes like passenger airliners are sitting ducks. I'm sure that they will get these things up and running. Or....ready the tin foil....Russia planted them knowing they would be taken back to ISIS HQ and plan on either tracking the whereabouts for future bombing missions or remote detonating the whole shebang while it's in the ISIS supply shack. That's what I would do if I were Russian brass. Just a thought.
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I think it's a terrible situation, but at this point the only resolution is for things to get serious. If it is what it is, they can shoot down civilian aircraft. Disgusting and sickening. The world might get woke up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Go on. I think it's a terrible situation, but at this point the only resolution is for things to get serious. If it is what it is, they can shoot down civilian aircraft. Disgusting and sickening. The world might get woke up. Just like Ukraine got serious after MH17? |
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I expected that comment. I don't have anything to say. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just like Ukraine got serious after MH17? I expected that comment. I don't have anything to say. The reality is that they are already getting their shit kicked in. All that shooting down an airliner would do is make another collection of innocent victims. |
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ISIS has taken possession of three Russian surface-to-air missile launchers outside of Palmyra, Syria after retaking the ancient city last weekend, two U.S. defense officials told Fox News Thursday...
The officials said the SA-3 launchers contain four missiles each. The 60s-era Soviet missile launcher has a maximum range of 15 miles and can strike aircraft flying at over 60,000 feet in the air. It was not immediately clear whether ISIS knew how to use the military technology. View Quote Link to Full story at Fox News I wonder if the USAF will ground the F22s again, and cease operations? View Quote |
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Sounds like a bullshit excuse to put more Americans on the ground.
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The launchers cant do shit with no "low blow" radar to guide the missiles.
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I am sure Russian aircraft have an IFF system to keep them from being a target
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"60s-era Soviet missile launcher" Why would they deploy something that old? Wouldn't modern jets have counter-measures to combat those relics? Probably. Airliners don't though. If it was a full launch complex in working order,it would be a credible threat or at least taken seriously by anyone. The only stealth aircraft ever shot down was hit with an S-125,yes it could still shoot down most things. |
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I think it's a terrible situation, but at this point the only resolution is for things to get serious. If it is what it is, they can shoot down civilian aircraft. Disgusting and sickening. The world might get woke up. View Quote This is the latest of the Red Lines nobody had better cross in Syria. |
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I am sure Russian aircraft have an IFF system to keep them from being a target View Quote That isn't how it works,it doesn't tell a missile to go away. Were that the case,Patriots wouldn't have shot down a Tornado and Hornet or for that matter an F-16 shooting a HARM at a Patriot battery. |
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You gotta figure a deploying force would probably have such a radar close to said missiles, and if Haji could snatch one he could snatch both. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_thinking.gif border=0 align=middle> View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The launchers cant do shit with no "low blow" radar to guide the missiles. You gotta figure a deploying force would probably have such a radar close to said missiles, and if Haji could snatch one he could snatch both. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_thinking.gif border=0 align=middle> Sure but Russia doesn't operate S-125 anymore,let alone take them to Syria. These are old missiles supplied decades ago to fight the Israelis. Russia set up an S-400 complex for blustering but mostly research,they get to look at US fighters flying combat missions every day and determine what they would so vs. them. |
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You gotta figure a deploying force would probably have such a radar close to said missiles, and if Haji could snatch one he could snatch both. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_thinking.gif border=0 align=middle> View Quote Theres a command truck needed too; an SA-3 missile requires a pretty significant emplacement to stand up. |
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ISIS has taken possession of three Russian surface-to-air missile launchers outside of Palmyra, Syria after retaking the ancient city last weekend, two U.S. defense officials told Fox News Thursday...
The officials said the SA-3 launchers contain four missiles each. The 60s-era Soviet missile launcher has a maximum range of 15 miles and can strike aircraft flying at over 60,000 feet in the air. It was not immediately clear whether ISIS knew how to use the military technology. View Quote Link to Full story at Fox News I wonder if the USAF will ground the F22s again, and cease operations? View Quote I wonder if the USAF will ground the A10 and cease operations? |
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That's what is called a "Self Inflicted No Fly Zone". SINFZ-SKI
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I take it that some of you cheer when Americans are killed in Iraq and Syria because they're fighting alongside ISIS? The missiles were Syrian rather than Russian and were at a SyAAF base,yes Russian in manufacture but not ownership. IS have captured all sorts of weapons and equipment that is unusable to them http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00726/feacf764-0157-11e4-_726592c.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8WV78LqtEVA/VEKrGynBpbI/AAAAAAAACXc/7DJHceACBQg/s1600/TABQA%2BAFB-1.jpg http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/assets_c/2015/02/Baiji8-thumb-560x315-5859.jpg This is why they blow up captured M1s,too complex to operate. http://www.janes.com/images/assets/550/39550/CQAA3Ot_-_main.jpg About the only thing they can so with them is Wile E Coyote them as they do in Libya https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpbbBrYWcAEk0oF.jpg One of the non-ISIS groups has a couple 9K33s they have been shown driving around. They have never been able to take a shot at a Russian or Syrian plane. Oh yeah,if it was possible to just hop in a 2K12 and start popping them off as Russia claims in Ukraine,IS captured these quite a while ago http://blog.tankpedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/2K12-Kub-SA-6-Gainful-SAM-missiles-captured-by-ISIS.jpeg View Quote |
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That isn't how it works,it doesn't tell a missile to go away. Were that the case,Patriots wouldn't have shot down a Tornado and Hornet or for that matter an F-16 shooting a HARM at a Patriot battery. Justifiable self-defense by the F-16. Yes but it was a 2 way street: he thought it was Iraqi and the Patriots were routinely locking up planes their operators couldn't tell were friendly. IFF only says "it's me!",it doesn't do complex things like preventing a formerly friendly missile from treating you like it's a pit bull adopted off Craigslist. |
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Yes but it was a 2 way street: he thought it was Iraqi and the Patriots were routinely locking up planes their operators couldn't tell were friendly. IFF only says "it's me!",it doesn't do complex things like preventing a formerly friendly missile from treating you like it's a pit bull adopted off Craigslist. View Quote I was just poking fun at the Patriots only confirmed fighter kills being a Tornado and a Hornet. Western fighters gotta take that Patriot warning tone seriously! |
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