Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
Member Login

Site Notices
Posted: 6/18/2014 8:18:55 AM EST
We all know the administration is amateurish at best but with the mainstream media being in bed with them it is all now coming to a head....Obama has been coddled and has largely went unchallenged now we are just starting to see the tip of the iceberg....Iraq is a cluster fuck...scandal after scandal continues to crop up and the press who have fundamental rights granted to them by the Constitution have walked through the last 6 years with their heads in the sand or up their asses.....now they act surprised
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 8:22:18 AM EST
Originally Posted By rod727:
We all know the administration is amateurish at best but with the mainstream media being in bed with them it is all now coming to a head....Obama has been coddled and has largely went unchallenged now we are just starting to see the tip of the iceberg....Iraq is a cluster fuck...scandal after scandal continues to crop up and the press who have fundamental rights granted to them by the Constitution have walked through the last 6 years with their heads in the sand or up their asses.....now they act surprised
View Quote

Serious question... With all of the interconnectivity between various mega-owners of media and the revolving door between media and administration positions, is it reasonable to still consider the media "free"?
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 8:34:26 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By wmounts:

Serious question... With all of the interconnectivity between various mega-owners of media and the revolving door between media and administration positions, is it reasonable to still consider the media "free"?
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By wmounts:
Originally Posted By rod727:
We all know the administration is amateurish at best but with the mainstream media being in bed with them it is all now coming to a head....Obama has been coddled and has largely went unchallenged now we are just starting to see the tip of the iceberg....Iraq is a cluster fuck...scandal after scandal continues to crop up and the press who have fundamental rights granted to them by the Constitution have walked through the last 6 years with their heads in the sand or up their asses.....now they act surprised

Serious question... With all of the interconnectivity between various mega-owners of media and the revolving door between media and administration positions, is it reasonable to still consider the media "free"?


sadly you are correct and I am wrong for expecting impartiality
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 8:49:17 AM EST
It's a symptom of how polarized our system has become, to which the press plays a huge part.

Those on the left are so defensive that they view all attacks on "their guy" as artificial and malicious as opposed to using their rational thinking skills and looking at the facts of each instance.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 8:52:31 AM EST
Add the election of Obama too.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 9:08:48 AM EST
Let's stop the bullshit right here. It's not just this administration, it's the whole fucking system. I'm tired of people only seeing shit through one eye. You're part of the problem if that's how you view things. It's not the coach, it's not the owners or the players, it's the WHOLE FUCKING GAME. It's fucked. Fucked to shit.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 9:14:47 AM EST
If you would stop using the media outlets, they would change or go broke.

News is not a moneymaker for the big 3 networks.

You don't like the way they report the news.

Turn the damned thing off.


How many times on here have I seen someone bitching about how CNN reports something. I would n't know it. I don't watch it.

You're either part of the solution, or the problem. Which is it?
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 9:16:12 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By wmounts:

Serious question... With all of the interconnectivity between various mega-owners of media and the revolving door between media and administration positions, is it reasonable to still consider the media "free"?
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By wmounts:
Originally Posted By rod727:
We all know the administration is amateurish at best but with the mainstream media being in bed with them it is all now coming to a head....Obama has been coddled and has largely went unchallenged now we are just starting to see the tip of the iceberg....Iraq is a cluster fuck...scandal after scandal continues to crop up and the press who have fundamental rights granted to them by the Constitution have walked through the last 6 years with their heads in the sand or up their asses.....now they act surprised

Serious question... With all of the interconnectivity between various mega-owners of media and the revolving door between media and administration positions, is it reasonable to still consider the media "free"?

Of course not! do you have any idea of the millions and billions of dollars it cost to buy their integrity?
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 9:16:38 AM EST
The automotive industry as a whole is a symptom right now. It isn't just the fuel that the government is screwing up.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 9:18:49 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By 338winmag:
If you would stop using the media outlets, they would change or go broke.

News is not a moneymaker for the big 3 networks.

You don't like the way they report the news.

Turn the damned thing off.


How many times on here have I seen someone bitching about how CNN reports something. I would n't know it. I don't watch it.

You're either part of the solution, or the problem. Which is it?
View Quote



what do you watch /read
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 9:24:04 AM EST
I get news from here, and other websites. I occasionally listen to NPR, (don't hate me) Shortwave, BBC.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 9:27:18 AM EST
Free Press? You're soaking in it!

Link Posted: 6/18/2014 9:27:31 AM EST
Doing their jobs? silly rabbit, they are doing their jobs, acting as the propaganda arm of the DNC, period.

Goes all the way back to the Vietnam War, the Joes and Gyrenes kicked ass on the ground, the AF and Navy bombed the shit out of, well, what they were allowed to bomb the shit out of.

But the communists in media kept pushing the anti-war biased reporting.

Same thing now, the communists (fuck using that progressive word, call an assshole ans asshole) pushed the George Bush hate speech to an unrealized level from Abu Graib, to Murtha accusing the Marines of being baby killers, they media preached the war is evil, Bush is evial, USA is evil on 99/100 channels that people started to believe the lies.

How often have u even seen reports of current "overseas contingency operations" on TV?

You don't because it no longer serves their purpose, regime change domestically.

Its been Obama's War for over 5.5yrs now, he has made a mess of the fucking world, Americans, frick might as well say it, anybody non-Muslim and even most Muslims are at risk of terrorist activity that is going to make the 70s look like a weekend at Disney World.

We had a chance of really making a difference in the world, in the middle east, but we failed to support the Green Revolution in Iran.

But that's okay, its "their" petulant child playing Milton Bradley's "Risk" using the globe as a gameboard.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 9:28:11 AM EST
I've said it before and I'll say it again:

If we still had real journalism in this country, Truman would have been the last Democrat POTUS.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 9:39:41 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By DeltaElite777:
I've said it before and I'll say it again:

If we still had real journalism in this country, Truman would have been the last Democrat POTUS.
View Quote


Yet Senators like Schumer and Feinstein want to qualify 'real journalism' and punish those not deemed worthy from having the protection of a free press and by changing the structure of the internet to lessen their ability to spread information contrary to the narrative of their choosing.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 9:51:50 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By glockluv:
It's a symptom of how polarized our system has become, to which the press plays a huge part.

Those on the left are so defensive that they view all attacks on "their guy" as artificial and malicious as opposed to using their rational thinking skills and looking at the facts of each instance.
View Quote


Your talking about liberals correct? part in bold does not compute
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 10:20:12 AM EST


"neutrality" or "open-ness" or "transparency" need not apply.

for a "free press" to do the job it was intended (and continue to exist as well...), it must be ANTI-GOVERNMENT.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 10:33:02 AM EST
The entertainment industry (which also masquerades as the news) is performing its appointed tasks: Disseminating government propaganda, misleading the public, creating divisions among the population where none need to exist and diverting the population from the real problems of the nation.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 10:35:33 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By rod727:


sadly you are correct and I am wrong for expecting impartiality
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By rod727:
Originally Posted By wmounts:
Originally Posted By rod727:
We all know the administration is amateurish at best but with the mainstream media being in bed with them it is all now coming to a head....Obama has been coddled and has largely went unchallenged now we are just starting to see the tip of the iceberg....Iraq is a cluster fuck...scandal after scandal continues to crop up and the press who have fundamental rights granted to them by the Constitution have walked through the last 6 years with their heads in the sand or up their asses.....now they act surprised

Serious question... With all of the interconnectivity between various mega-owners of media and the revolving door between media and administration positions, is it reasonable to still consider the media "free"?


sadly you are correct and I am wrong for expecting impartiality

Lower your expectations.

It's the only way to make sense of anything this WORLD does anymore.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 10:37:59 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By glockluv:
It's a symptom of how polarized our system has become, to which the press plays a huge part.

Those on the left are so defensive that they view all attacks on "their guy" as artificial and malicious as opposed to using their rational thinking skills and looking at the facts of each instance.
View Quote


This is where we are at today.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 10:41:48 AM EST
It's interesting to see scandal after scandal - where any one of them would have completely derailed an R-administration, almost all of them worse than the memorable scandals of the past, and the guy's still hanging in there.

Iran Contra? Huge scandal for the press, wall to wall coverage.
Watergate? Huge scandal for the press, wall to wall coverage.

The real deal for those ? Was that a libtarded was no longer relegated to shadow-boxing alongside their president - Was no longer relegated to running nightly panic pieces for things bolstering choice legislation (like "gun control"), and instead they got to tag into the ring and personally punch their opposition's president.
That's it. That's why those scandals were a big deal, and O's numerous scandals (many of which resulting in loss of lives) get a pass. It has nothing to do with objectivity.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 10:52:53 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By stoner63a:
Doing their jobs? silly rabbit, they are doing their jobs, acting as the propaganda arm of the DNC, period.

Goes all the way back to the Vietnam War, the Joes and Gyrenes kicked ass on the ground, the AF and Navy bombed the shit out of, well, what they were allowed to bomb the shit out of.

But the communists in media kept pushing the anti-war biased reporting.

Same thing now, the communists (fuck using that progressive word, call an assshole ans asshole) pushed the George Bush hate speech to an unrealized level from Abu Graib, to Murtha accusing the Marines of being baby killers, they media preached the war is evil, Bush is evial, USA is evil on 99/100 channels that people started to believe the lies.

How often have u even seen reports of current "overseas contingency operations" on TV?
!
You don't because it no longer serves their purpose, regime change domestically.

Its been Obama's War for over 5.5yrs now, he has made a mess of the fucking world, Americans, frick might as well say it, anybody non-Muslim and even most Muslims are at risk of terrorist activity that is going to make the 70s look like a weekend at Disney World.

We had a chance of really making a difference in the world, in the middle east, but we failed to support the Green Revolution in Iran.

But that's okay, its "their" petulant child playing Milton Bradley's "Risk" using the globe as a gameboard.
View Quote


The Risk boardgame sits idly by on the war room table while dear leader is upstairs stuffing his face with Wagyu beef and Michelle swils $1000 bottles of wine, takes one taste and throws it away...not good enough for her lips...with Beyonce playing live in the background...
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 10:55:10 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By stoner63a:
Doing their jobs? silly rabbit, they are doing their jobs, acting as the propaganda arm of the DNC, period.

Goes all the way back to the Vietnam War, the Joes and Gyrenes kicked ass on the ground, the AF and Navy bombed the shit out of, well, what they were allowed to bomb the shit out of.

But the communists in media kept pushing the anti-war biased reporting.

Same thing now, the communists (fuck using that progressive word, call an assshole ans asshole) pushed the George Bush hate speech to an unrealized level from Abu Graib, to Murtha accusing the Marines of being baby killers, they media preached the war is evil, Bush is evial, USA is evil on 99/100 channels that people started to believe the lies.

How often have u even seen reports of current "overseas contingency operations" on TV?

You don't because it no longer serves their purpose, regime change domestically.

Its been Obama's War for over 5.5yrs now, he has made a mess of the fucking world, Americans, frick might as well say it, anybody non-Muslim and even most Muslims are at risk of terrorist activity that is going to make the 70s look like a weekend at Disney World.

We had a chance of really making a difference in the world, in the middle east, but we failed to support the Green Revolution in Iran.

But that's okay, its "their" petulant child playing Milton Bradley's "Risk" using the globe as a gameboard.
View Quote



How about the term "neo-com" as an appropriate answer to the term "neo-con".
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 11:04:58 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By rod727:


sadly you are correct and I am wrong for expecting impartiality
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By rod727:
Originally Posted By wmounts:
Originally Posted By rod727:
We all know the administration is amateurish at best but with the mainstream media being in bed with them it is all now coming to a head....Obama has been coddled and has largely went unchallenged now we are just starting to see the tip of the iceberg....Iraq is a cluster fuck...scandal after scandal continues to crop up and the press who have fundamental rights granted to them by the Constitution have walked through the last 6 years with their heads in the sand or up their asses.....now they act surprised

Serious question... With all of the interconnectivity between various mega-owners of media and the revolving door between media and administration positions, is it reasonable to still consider the media "free"?


sadly you are correct and I am wrong for expecting impartiality


A free media, you say? It's more debabtable than you think...

Shield law broadens definition of 'journalist'

A new media shield law expected to pass committee on Thursday broadens the definition of "journalist" to include, among other things, any individual deemed appropriate by a federal judge.

The new amendment is a step forward for independent and non-traditional media organizations who feared that an amendment introduced to the original bill would exclude them from protections granted to the traditional press corps, including protection from revealing information and sources except in extreme circumstances.

The original amendment, as proposed by Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Dick Durbin, had limited the defnition of journalist to someone employed by or in contract with a media outlet for at least three months in the last two years; someone with a substantial track record of freelancing in the last two years; or a student journalist.

The new amendment, brokered by Sen. Chuck Schumer, significantly expands on that definition. Now, a journalist would be defined as someone employed by or in contract with a media outlet for at least one year within the last 20 years or three months within the last five years; someone with a substantial track record of freelancing in the last five years; or a student journalist.


In addition, the law would protect a person deemed appropriate by a federal judge, so long as their newsgathering practices have been consistent with the law.

The Senate Judiciary Committee spent significant time debating the definition of "journalist" this summer, chiefly because some Senators, including Feinstein, had feared that the media shield law could be used to protect WikiLeaks, Julian Assange's whistleblowing organization.

In those meetings, Sen. Schumer also sided against WikiLeaks, but said there should be greater scope for bloggers and other journalists not aligned with traditional news organizations.

"The world has changed. We’re very careful in this bill to distinguish journalists from those who shouldn’t be protected, WikiLeaks and all those, and we’ve ensured that," Schumer said at the time. "But there are people who write and do real journalism, in different ways than we’re used to. They should not be excluded from this bill."


http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/09/new-shield-law-broadens-definition-of-journalist-172479.html
Top Top