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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:14:14 PM EDT
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FBHO!!!
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:14:55 PM EDT
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WUT!?!?!?
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:15:49 PM EDT
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Crazy. This just happened over the weekend?
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:15:50 PM EDT
[#4]
Interesting
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:17:24 PM EDT
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i saw this, although I am certainly not in favor of it, it appears that most of these sites were for file sharing and torrents. At least from what I could tell in an cursory look at it.
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:18:27 PM EDT
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invision_Power_Board
Invision Power Board (abbreviated IPB, IP.Board or IP Board) is an Internet forum software produced by Invision Power Services, Inc. It is written in PHP and primarily uses MySQL as a database management system, although support for other database engines is available. While Invision Power Board is a commercially sold product, there is a large modding community and many of these modifications are free. In addition, many groups offer the download or design of free and paid skins. This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference. 08:28, 15 July 2008 Ckatz (talk | contribs) deleted "IPBFree"(Speedy deleted, patent nonsense) 09:44, 13 June 2007 Fish and karate (talk | contribs) deleted "IPBFree" (WP:CSD#A7- article that fails to assert notability of its subject) |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:29:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:29:50 PM EDT
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wait.....what happened?
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:36:01 PM EDT
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Did somebody divide by 0, or is 0 trying to divide the internet?
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:39:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: wait.....what happened? Nobody will say. Some say copyright violations, but that is denied in a few places. Some say terrorist stuff, but nobody will disclose the agency that shut them down. Could be anything from illegals to Obama wanting to give dems a leg up in the election. |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:39:33 PM EDT
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wait.....what happened? People got caught hosting illegal content. They got shut down. Conspiracy theorists, doomsday folks, people who don't know what they are talking about, and everyone else starts jumping to conclusions. |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:39:39 PM EDT
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Quoted: i saw this, although I am certainly not in favor of it, it appears that most of these sites were for file sharing and torrents. At least from what I could tell in an cursory look at it. This is how I read it also. |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:39:53 PM EDT
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sounds le torrent ite were shut down and people are screaming .gov control..
or were legit no stealin torrent site shut down ? edit sees someone beat me to it |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:41:58 PM EDT
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Quoted: Did somebody divide by 0, or is 0 trying to divide the internet? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile ZERO is dividing teh interwebz by 0 OMGWTFBBQROFLCOPTERWAFFLENATEROVER |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:44:52 PM EDT
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There were a few good forums on ipbfree that had nothing illegal on them. A lot were for "clans" in gaming to discuss, well, the games.
I can see why sites that were in violation were shut down, if that is the case, but wiping out the entire provider and all of the "innocent" forums/blogs isn't the way I see to go about it. The provider couldn't be held liable, so this is simply the .gov flexing muscle to show what it can do, I guess. I do not think it is purely a 100% piracy issue, as most were links to torrent sites, such as piratebay, which is STILL UP.  |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:46:35 PM EDT
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There was a GD thread on this the other day.
I can't search GD so I can't provide a link. General consensus; *yawn* |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:48:22 PM EDT
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 A good citizen would just be thankful it wasn't their website. |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:51:53 PM EDT
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Well guess what.......
Destroying printing presses? Yep. Keep safe all. |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:53:03 PM EDT
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A good citizen would just be thankful it wasn't their website.It has to start somewhere; the torrentors and file sharers have the least grounds to complain, so there wont be much fuss. But like anything government starts to do, it will grow and there will certainly be more I am sure. |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:55:47 PM EDT
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Free speech is tolerant speech.
Hate speech will not be tolerated. |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 8:19:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: A good citizen would just be thankful it wasn't their website.It has to start somewhere; the torrentors and file sharers have the least grounds to complain, so there wont be much fuss. But like anything government starts to do, it will grow and there will certainly be more I am sure.  A good citizen would not be running a pirate website... And thus would not have their site shut down for copyright violations... They have no reason or legal grounds to shut down non-law-breaking websites... Pirate sites getting shut down is nothing new, that's been happening as long as pirates have been running websites... |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 9:26:45 PM EDT
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Fahrenheit 255.0.0.0
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Posted: 7/18/2010 9:28:48 PM EDT
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And so it began.
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Posted: 7/18/2010 9:33:43 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Well guess what....... Destroying printing presses? Yep. Keep safe all. |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 9:37:38 PM EDT
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Quoted: Fahrenheit 255.0.0.0  |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 9:39:05 PM EDT
[#26]
IBAD
In before arfcom disappears :( Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 9:39:25 PM EDT
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A good citizen would just be thankful it wasn't their website.It has to start somewhere; the torrentors and file sharers have the least grounds to complain, so there wont be much fuss. But like anything government starts to do, it will grow and there will certainly be more I am sure.
A good citizen would not be running a pirate website... And thus would not have their site shut down for copyright violations... They have no reason or legal grounds to shut down non-law-breaking websites... Pirate sites getting shut down is nothing new, that's been happening as long as pirates have been running websites... But torrent sites don't host any copyrighted content, same thing with most direct download sites, they just link to it. People violate copyright law on arfcom all the time. Ever post a screen cap from a movie? Illegal. Yeah we would say it's fair use, but the MPAA sure won't. |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 9:54:24 PM EDT
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Do we...gulp.....have a web rally point in case of zombie web attack, and ARFCOM is taken out by the bad guys?
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Posted: 7/18/2010 10:08:39 PM EDT
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Nothing good can come from this type of control.
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Posted: 7/18/2010 10:35:54 PM EDT
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Added update:
Blogetery.com, a blogging platform, went dark on July 9, less than a week before Ipbfree.com, a service that helped users create Web message boards, went offline. No one has said these situations are linked, but they nonetheless possess intriguing similarities. • Each of the services host loads of user-generated content. • Operators at both Blogetery and Ipbfree said they were shut down and aren't coming back. • Both said they obeyed copyright law. • In each case, those with knowledge of who ordered the closures or the reasons why said they are legally required not to disclose that information. "We are limited as to the details we can provide to you," BurstNet wrote to Blogetery's administrator. "Note that this was a critical matter and the only available option to us was to immediately deactivate the server." Usually MPAA/RIAA would have been spinning their "Victory" in the news about this if it was a file sharing issue. They use scare tactics to dissuade others. That doesn't seem to be the case here at all, especially with the "Shut Up" clauses.... ... spokespeople for the Motion Picture Association of America and the Recording Industry Association of America also told CNET they didn't know anything about Blogetery. Besides, it is nearly unheard of that a copyright complaint from either of those two trade groups would mean almost instantaneous shut down of a site. ... What really has some observers scratching their heads is that it's unclear under what circumstance a law enforcement group could walk in and order an Internet host to boot a customer off the Web without any apparent warning or court order? Was there due process? None of this makes sense, according to one law enforcement official with experience in cybercrime investigations who wasn't connected to the cases but wished to be anonymous because he is isn't authorized to speak on the matter. He said that he didn't know of any agency that had the authority to terminate service for thousands of people without essentially jumping through all kinds of legal hoops. Not even federal officials in child pornography investigations can immediately shut down hosting services. |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 10:40:38 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A good citizen would just be thankful it wasn't their website.It has to start somewhere; the torrentors and file sharers have the least grounds to complain, so there wont be much fuss. But like anything government starts to do, it will grow and there will certainly be more I am sure. A good citizen would not be running a pirate website... And thus would not have their site shut down for copyright violations... They have no reason or legal grounds to shut down non-law-breaking websites... Pirate sites getting shut down is nothing new, that's been happening as long as pirates have been running websites... But torrent sites don't host any copyrighted content, same thing with most direct download sites, they just link to it. People violate copyright law on arfcom all the time. Ever post a screen cap from a movie? Illegal. Yeah we would say it's fair use, but the MPAA sure won't. The linking/just-pointing to defense hasn't helped isohunt or Limewire.... And MPAA seems to respect 'fair use' just enough to let clips/shorts get posted on YouTube without 'issue'.... |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 10:43:55 PM EDT
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Quoted: There were a few good forums on ipbfree that had nothing illegal on them. A lot were for "clans" in gaming to discuss, well, the games. I can see why sites that were in violation were shut down, if that is the case, but wiping out the entire provider and all of the "innocent" forums/blogs isn't the way I see to go about it. The provider couldn't be held liable, so this is simply the .gov flexing muscle to show what it can do, I guess. I do not think it is purely a 100% piracy issue, as most were links to torrent sites, such as piratebay, which is STILL UP. haven't you learned yet. the innocent pay for the guilty in this country. ESPECIALLY if the innocent are hosting content that is not favorable to the fucking liberal commies. |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 10:45:12 PM EDT
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A good citizen would just be thankful it wasn't their website.It has to start somewhere; the torrentors and file sharers have the least grounds to complain, so there wont be much fuss. But like anything government starts to do, it will grow and there will certainly be more I am sure.
A good citizen would not be running a pirate website... And thus would not have their site shut down for copyright violations... They have no reason or legal grounds to shut down non-law-breaking websites... Pirate sites getting shut down is nothing new, that's been happening as long as pirates have been running websites... But torrent sites don't host any copyrighted content, same thing with most direct download sites, they just link to it. People violate copyright law on arfcom all the time. Ever post a screen cap from a movie? Illegal. Yeah we would say it's fair use, but the MPAA sure won't. The linking/just-pointing to defense hasn't helped isohunt or Limewire.... And MPAA seems to respect 'fair use' just enough to let clips/shorts get posted on YouTube without 'issue'.... Do people who own apartment complexes get in trouble for the tenants misdeeds, for example, drug possession? |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 11:00:35 PM EDT
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Quoted: thats not so much the problem. the problem is no one is saying why and no one is letting anything out. this is a very unusual way to be doing it if its just shutting down pirating websites. 70,000 blogs and other sites? thats... fishy..Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A good citizen would just be thankful it wasn't their website.It has to start somewhere; the torrentors and file sharers have the least grounds to complain, so there wont be much fuss. But like anything government starts to do, it will grow and there will certainly be more I am sure. A good citizen would not be running a pirate website... And thus would not have their site shut down for copyright violations... They have no reason or legal grounds to shut down non-law-breaking websites... Pirate sites getting shut down is nothing new, that's been happening as long as pirates have been running websites... But torrent sites don't host any copyrighted content, same thing with most direct download sites, they just link to it. People violate copyright law on arfcom all the time. Ever post a screen cap from a movie? Illegal. Yeah we would say it's fair use, but the MPAA sure won't. The linking/just-pointing to defense hasn't helped isohunt or Limewire.... And MPAA seems to respect 'fair use' just enough to let clips/shorts get posted on YouTube without 'issue'.... Do people who own apartment complexes get in trouble for the tenants misdeeds, for example, drug possession? |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 11:05:31 PM EDT
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Quoted: which people, the bloggers or the company itself? Quoted: wait.....what happened? People got caught hosting illegal content. They got shut down. Conspiracy theorists, doomsday folks, people who don't know what they are talking about, and everyone else starts jumping to conclusions. if the company, why destroy 70,000 blogs etc without notice. if the bloggers, why direct a "total war" mentality about it? |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 11:07:32 PM EDT
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Patriot act in effect? They can't say why it was taken over by the .gov? sounds like it to me. |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 11:59:23 PM EDT
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A good citizen would just be thankful it wasn't their website.It has to start somewhere; the torrentors and file sharers have the least grounds to complain, so there wont be much fuss. But like anything government starts to do, it will grow and there will certainly be more I am sure.
A good citizen would not be running a pirate website... And thus would not have their site shut down for copyright violations... They have no reason or legal grounds to shut down non-law-breaking websites... Pirate sites getting shut down is nothing new, that's been happening as long as pirates have been running websites... You, as usual, have no idea what you're talking about. This was a forum service. It was not creating or providing any illegal content, SOME of the users were. What you're doing is the same as calling Craigslist or Facebook criminal companies because some of their users post pirated material. |
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Posted: 7/19/2010 12:49:23 AM EDT
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In the information war, the communists have just taken one of our armories. Interesting. Probably won't generate much griping beyond places like this. I wonder what they have on the service owners to force their silence. Something they care a lot about. Money or Jailtime I wonder.....
One more granule of the 1ST Ammendment has just been torched. And this is the only place I've seen anything about it. |
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Posted: 7/19/2010 12:57:22 AM EDT
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I heard MPAA backed up by the FBI and a warrant. Fansubs hosted on Megavideo/Ninja whatever...
There's been several other "TV Fan sites" nuked over the past several months... I'm getting my info off of slashdot and efnet... "I heard it on the internet! It must be true!" - Right? |
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Posted: 7/19/2010 7:56:12 AM EDT
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One story on this had the Dept of Homeland Security seal for the graphic, does anybody know for sure which agency?
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Posted: 7/19/2010 3:08:03 PM EDT
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Finally, some info...
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/07/19/blogetery-owners-shut-down-bombs-al-qaeda/ A popular website that hosted more than 70,000 bloggers was shut down suddenly last week after the FBI informed its chief technology officer that the site contained hit lists, bomb-making documents and links to Al Qaeda materials, it was reported on Monday. Nice and subtle... Still do not approve, they could have simply whacked the offending user accounts, same for IPBFree. |
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Posted: 7/19/2010 3:53:49 PM EDT
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First to go is the free speech??? I would have thought they would have gone after the guns first. I guess that makes sense though. If arfcom goes dark, how do we get ahold of each other???
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Posted: 7/19/2010 4:01:00 PM EDT
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That's really fucked up
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Posted: 7/19/2010 4:05:00 PM EDT
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First amendment version of gun confiscation: you can't have this particular version of free speech because bad guys have used it too, no you can't get back what you and others had invested in it either but you can start all over again with a similar tool.
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Posted: 7/19/2010 4:06:11 PM EDT
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Did somebody divide by 0, or is 0 trying to divide the internet? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile i accidentally by 0 the whole thing
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Posted: 7/19/2010 4:09:27 PM EDT
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A good citizen would just be thankful it wasn't their website.It has to start somewhere; the torrentors and file sharers have the least grounds to complain, so there wont be much fuss. But like anything government starts to do, it will grow and there will certainly be more I am sure.
A good citizen would not be running a pirate website... And thus would not have their site shut down for copyright violations... They have no reason or legal grounds to shut down non-law-breaking websites... Pirate sites getting shut down is nothing new, that's been happening as long as pirates have been running websites... tell that to the judge
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Posted: 7/19/2010 6:18:38 PM EDT
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Quoted: First amendment version of gun confiscation: you can't have this particular version of free speech because bad guys have used it too, no you can't get back what you and others had invested in it either but you can start all over again with a similar tool. Basically this. What they did is akin to shutting down all of YouTube forever, deleting all content, because there were 100 videos that had something like bomb making instructions and some code words in them. |
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Posted: 7/19/2010 6:20:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: First amendment version of gun confiscation: you can't have this particular version of free speech because bad guys have used it too, no you can't get back what you and others had invested in it either but you can start all over again with a similar tool. Basically this. What they did is akin to shutting down all of YouTube forever, deleting all content, because allegedly there were 100 videos that had something like bomb making instructions and some code words in them. |
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Posted: 7/19/2010 6:25:00 PM EDT
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But - Dave_A and our LEO friends say that those of us who fear and distrust the government are Alex Jones lunatics and that the government would NEVER do something like this, especially doing so was unConstitutional!!! WTF?
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Posted: 7/19/2010 9:48:14 PM EDT
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Quoted: But - Dave_A and our LEO friends say that those of us who fear and distrust the government are Alex Jones lunatics and that the government would NEVER do something like this, especially doing so was unConstitutional!!! WTF? From the wording of the article, we probably would have never found out about it if cnet didn't get on the story and stay with it.  |
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